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Steverinos
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January 8th, 2019 at 3:27:01 PM permalink
I think Boz needs some sensitivity training.

Steverinos
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January 8th, 2019 at 3:34:06 PM permalink
Or was it diversity day training? Hell, do both, lol.

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January 8th, 2019 at 3:36:29 PM permalink
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I find it hard to believe you canít remove it, like a spammers link if you find it offensive or embarrassing to the forum. Wizardís option and right to do anything in the best interest of the forum. Not asking for it, but you always have the Nuke button in your pocket.

As for being embarrassed, really this is the one? Compared to all the degrading talk about women being ďHotĒ in a lawyers ad, to massage parlor talk, happy endings etc. The sexist treatment a new female member gets here is embarrassing to me. Itís like a bunch of teenagers falling all over one another. Talk about best places in foreign countries to find prostitution. And we have a female Mod who has to see this with no consideration to her, assuming it even bothers her.

Allowing a poster to threaten casino personnel in the name of blowing off steam when we have multiple quality long term members who work in casinos is embarrassing.

The fact that many people turned their heads when a known scammer was allowed to solicit business under a sock. It was even joked about by members, thatís embarrassing.

So my use of a term may be embarrassing to you, itís certainly not the 1st time embarrassing content to someone has been posted here, not will it be the last.



Your comments are well taken.

First, we're not big on censorship here. Once we start sanitizing posts, where will it end? We would prefer to prevent the problem to begin with.

Second, yes, I said the staff of a particular law firm here was full of hot women. I meant it as a compliment. If anyone else thinks it was insulting, I will consider suspending myself. Any other complaints about that?

Third, I don't condone threatening anybody. As I've said hundreds of times, I don't read every post.

Fourth, to respond to everything else, we are conflicted between respecting free speech and trying to foster quality content every single day. When in doubt, we err towards respecting free speech. We also learn as we go.
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terapined
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January 8th, 2019 at 3:41:34 PM permalink
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[ I mean I have known the meaning of "beaner" for years and am surprised a few Americans on this forum apparently haven't heard of it. But then again, my family is racist, so of course I've personally heard it.




I never heard it or used that term
I grew up in Baltimore and learned a lot of colorful language
Now that I leaned the term here, I would never use it. Its disgusting.
My family is not racist, probably because 1/2 my family are immigrants
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January 8th, 2019 at 3:41:53 PM permalink
Perhaps start treating free speech like free play

If members abuse it exclude them for abuse
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January 8th, 2019 at 4:45:02 PM permalink
In other news, BookMaker.eu is taking bets on the number of false statements in tonight's address to the nation by Trump. They opened with an over/under of 3.5. The over is now -320. Wish I had an account there, I'd take the over.

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January 8th, 2019 at 4:51:48 PM permalink
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In other news, BookMaker.eu is taking bets on the number of false statements in tonight's address to the nation by Trump. They opened with an over/under of 3.5. The over is now -320. Wish I had an account there, I'd take the over.



It will be the over. I don't see him sticking to a script. He's totally on the defensive, and he will probably elaborate.
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January 8th, 2019 at 5:00:48 PM permalink
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Quote: Wizard

Quote: Boz

Hopefully todayís is no longer remembered for just being Elvisís birthday, but as the day America started fighting back.

Start arresting any business owner who hires an illegal, and stop providing food stamps to anyone of able body and mind who isnít working 40 hours+ a week. The Beaners will head home, jobs will open up and people wonít need food stamps.

I have a dream, oh what a dream.



Note: Emphasis is mine.

I'd love to throw down a suspension for this racist term, but, unfortunately, it doesn't break any forum rules, at the moment. Perhaps it is time a add a new rule. However, for now, I'd like it to be stated that forum management does not condone such language and is embarrassed that it appears on this forum.



I find it hard to believe you canít remove it, like a spammers link if you find it offensive or embarrassing to the forum. Wizardís option and right to do anything in the best interest of the forum. Not asking for it, but you always have the Nuke button in your pocket.

As for being embarrassed, really this is the one? Compared to all the degrading talk about women being ďHotĒ in a lawyers ad, to massage parlor talk, happy endings etc. The sexist treatment a new female member gets here is embarrassing to me. Itís like a bunch of teenagers falling all over one another. Talk about best places in foreign countries to find prostitution. And we have a female Mod who has to see this with no consideration to her, assuming it even bothers her.

Allowing a poster to threaten casino personnel in the name of blowing off steam when we have multiple quality long term members who work in casinos is embarrassing.

The fact that many people turned their heads when a known scammer was allowed to solicit business under a sock. It was even joked about by members, thatís embarrassing.

So my use of a term may be embarrassing to you, itís certainly not the 1st time embarrassing content to someone has been posted here, not will it be the last.



Well said. And yes, if I wanted people to know exactly where my goat is tied, I would raise some hell here and there. But the forum has been very supportive of free speech, which I also support, including people revealing themselves to be damned fools. And it's good to know who is a misogynist and who isn't, so there's that.

And, I have to admit, I enjoyed conversation more 30-40 years ago, before PC started intruding itself. It used to be possible, at least on the face of things, to be funny without malice, to tell silly jokes. But I suppose there is a greater truth in stereotypes and prejudice that underlay those comments. They're so baked-in that it's a painful scouring over decades now, and only getting worse.
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Boz
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January 8th, 2019 at 5:14:20 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

In other news, BookMaker.eu is taking bets on the number of false statements in tonight's address to the nation by Trump. They opened with an over/under of 3.5. The over is now -320. Wish I had an account there, I'd take the over.



Not sure how the determination is made if something is false or not. Some are easy to prove as outright lies and others are in the grey area, like the Pinocchio scale the Wash Post uses.


Not something I personally would be comfortable betting on, I can see disputes arising, unless of course he blows the "Over" away. False Statements seems vague to me.
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January 8th, 2019 at 5:18:10 PM permalink
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Quote: Wizard

In other news, BookMaker.eu is taking bets on the number of false statements in tonight's address to the nation by Trump. They opened with an over/under of 3.5. The over is now -320. Wish I had an account there, I'd take the over.



Not sure how the determination is made if something is false or not. Some are easy to prove as outright lies and others are in the grey area, like the Pinocchio scale the Wash Post uses.


Not something I personally would be comfortable betting on, I can see disputes arising, unless of course he blows the "Over" away. False Statements seems vague to me.



Assuming Pence has seen/helped write the speech or has been schooled on its talking points:

Assuming that's what he brought to the two interviews I saw with him from this morning:

Expect 6 or more provable, non-factual lies and a dozen misused statistics.
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