Trump's Final 100 days

Quote: EvenBob

The invasion caravan of Future
Democrat Voters inches ever
closer to the border and Trump
orders up the military to protect
us, which is WHY we have a military.

They're saying the invasion force
will be over 5000 when it finally
gets here and the organizers are
saying this is only the beginning.

Are they insane? Don't they know
this is the biggest gift they could
give Trump, a REASON to build the
wall?

It's an early Christmas at the WH..

Thanks Evenbob for alerting us to the sentencing news and further investigations of the traitor and money launderer Donald Trump.

Nobody falls for the deflection anymore

Sentencing today in first case involving russia scandal

Lock em up!

Even more newsworthy today, that doesn't seem to be getting much traction, is that part of the conditions that Rosenstein set out for Mueller was to investigate Manafort for collusion with Russian authorities. Yep, Trump's pick for the FBI specifically included that in Mueller's scope for the probe.. but didn't release tidbit of information to the public for fear of alerting those being investigated.

The FBI, Rosenstein and Mueller are all steps ahead of Donald.

Quote: TigerWu

A third of those people are planning to stay in Mexico, and many of the rest are going to ask for asylum in the U.S.

That's' supposed to make me feel better?

Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: TigerWu

A third of those people are planning to stay in Mexico, and many of the rest are going to ask for asylum in the U.S.

That's' supposed to make me feel better?

Yes?

You'd rather have them storm in under cover of night, or violently attack border guards in an attempt to get into the country?

Having people calmly and peacefully asking for political asylum is probably the most preferable way this can happen, other than them not coming at all, which is obviously not happening.

Quote: TigerWu

I think Sean Hannity has reached Alex Jones levels of insanity.

Yea the country is divided
but
Civil war?????????????
ROTFL
Hannity jumping the shark

Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: TigerWu

A third of those people are planning to stay in Mexico, and many of the rest are going to ask for asylum in the U.S.

That's' supposed to make me feel better?

Bring them in
My personal experience
Hispanic people overall are hard workers
Appreciate all my Hispanic co-workers

Quote: terapined

Quote: TigerWu

I think Sean Hannity has reached Alex Jones levels of insanity.

Yea the country is divided
but
Civil war?????????????
ROTFL
Hannity jumping the shark

He jumped the shark sometime during the Obama administration.

But I guess his comments were taken "out of context:" "I’m not talking about violence, I’m talking about everyone hating each other. You’re not going to be able to have a family dinner without mashed potatoes being thrown across the room.” -- Sean Hannity

But of course all this is Rober Mueller's fault:

“This country is headed towards a civil war in terms of two sides that are just hating each other and if Robert Mueller wants, there’s a big red button in the middle of the table,” Hannity said. “And if Robert Mueller is so pompous and so arrogant and so power hungry and so corrupt that he’s going to hit the red button and he’s going to ignite a battle that we’ve not seen in this country before.”

Haha... Okay, Mr. Waterboard. Like Mueller MADE all these people break the law and collude with Russia.

Quote: TigerWu

Quote: terapined

Quote: TigerWu

I think Sean Hannity has reached Alex Jones levels of insanity.

Yea the country is divided
but
Civil war?????????????
ROTFL
Hannity jumping the shark

He jumped the shark sometime during the Obama administration.

But I guess his comments were taken "out of context:" "I’m not talking about violence, I’m talking about everyone hating each other. You’re not going to be able to have a family dinner without mashed potatoes being thrown across the room.” -- Sean Hannity

Hannity is so full of BS
I have friends and neighbors that voted for Trump and I lean left
We don't hate each other
We actually get along.
I am friendly to all my neighbors regardless of politics.
I've discussed politics with a neighbor. We agree to disagree and get along quite well

Quote: TigerWu

Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: TigerWu

A third of those people are planning to stay in Mexico, and many of the rest are going to ask for asylum in the U.S.

That's' supposed to make me feel better?

Yes?

You'd rather have them storm in under cover of night, or violently attack border guards in an attempt to get into the country?

Having people calmly and peacefully asking for political asylum is probably the most preferable way this can happen, other than them not coming at all, which is obviously not happening.

You think there's a good chance they will "storm in under cover of night, or violently attack border guards in an attempt to get into the country" if we don't allow them to ask peacefully? So in order to avoid letting violent people in that might storm in under cover of night, or violently attack border guards in an attempt to get into the country,
we have to be all nice? Sounds kinda like blackmail to me. I think they already have the President's answer.

I don't see why we should even consider letting them in just so they can take American jobs and American money just send it back to their own country. I won't even mention the crime they might bring to the USA. Perhaps the Caravans of people should use their money, organization, and efforts to rise of against the gang's, corruption, and violence in their own country instead of running away to ours.

Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: TigerWu

Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: TigerWu

A third of those people are planning to stay in Mexico, and many of the rest are going to ask for asylum in the U.S.

That's' supposed to make me feel better?

Yes?

You'd rather have them storm in under cover of night, or violently attack border guards in an attempt to get into the country?

Having people calmly and peacefully asking for political asylum is probably the most preferable way this can happen, other than them not coming at all, which is obviously not happening.

You think there's a good chance they will "storm in under cover of night, or violently attack border guards in an attempt to get into the country" if we don't allow them to ask peacefully? So in order to avoid letting violent people in that might storm in under cover of night, or violently attack border guards in an attempt to get into the country,
we have to be all nice? Sounds kinda like blackmail to me. I think they already have the President's answer.

I don't see why we should even consider letting them in just so they can take American jobs and American money just send it back to their own country. I won't even mention the crime they might bring to the USA. Perhaps the Caravans of people should use their money, organization, and efforts to rise of against the gang's, corruption, and violence in their own country instead of running away to ours.

Seems like a huge leap from peaceful people seeking help and asylum to turn them into criminals who will use force and/or cover of darkness if they don't get what they want, just in the space of 2 sentences.

I don't know their backgrounds or intentions, but geez... Nearly everyone here, back to the Mayflower, had ancestors who did the same thing, and were welcomed and assimilated. Why are these people so different?

Quote: beachbumbabs

I don't know their backgrounds or intentions, but geez... Nearly everyone here, back to the Mayflower, had ancestors who did the same thing, and were welcomed and assimilated. Why are these people so different?

What happened to the first people who "welcomed" outsiders in?

Now you want to give asylum to people who come from one of the most violent places in the world?

Feel free to sponsor one and let him or her live in your house and you be responsible for their actions. I bet if you asked everyone who want's to let them in if they would be willing to let them stay at their house, they would say, HELL NO.

The vast majority of people illegally crossing our southern are poor and uneducated. They use our schools, emergency services and often have no insurance. Why the heck do any of our elected officials feel they have the right to spend my tax dollars to give free legal aid to illegal aliens to help them stay here illegally?

You know what's really behind a lot of this? Anti-white backlash. Build the wall! And while you're at it, Trump, rename Denali back to Mt McKinley.

Quote: Greasyjohn

The vast majority of people illegally crossing our southern are poor and uneducated. They use our schools, emergency services and often have no insurance. Why the heck do any of our elected officials feel they have the right to spend my tax dollars to give free legal aid to illegal aliens to help them stay here illegally?

You know what's really behind a lot of this? Anti-white backlash. Build the wall! And while you're at it, Trump, rename Denali back to Mt McKinley.

Can't argue with your first paragraph, anyway.

People seeking asylum wouldn't be coming illegally. They wouldn't necessarily get it granted, but if they were allowed in, they would be here legally. (My only point to Axel, and to you, if it needs to be said to you.)

No question it's anti-white backlash. Every dog in the country has its ears covered, the whistles are so loud. Shithole countries. Mexican rapists. Etc ad nauseum. Spooling up the people with the armbands and the pitchforks becuz, you know, Amurrika. Hate sells here. Always has. Maybe not always will, though.

Quote: AxelWolf

What happened to the first people who "welcomed" outsiders in?

Now you want to give asylum to people who come from one of the most violent places in the world?

Feel free to sponsor one and let him or her live in your house and you be responsible for their actions. I bet if you asked everyone who want's to let them in if they would be willing to let them stay at their house, they would say, HELL NO.

I could use the help. This caretaking thing is a bitch.

Seriously, though, an example from recent years. How many Vietnamese criminals are there? Are they in proportion to other criminals from other races or backgrounds? As far as I know, they're not a significant problem percentage-wise (I'm sure there are Asian gangs and stuff, but I'm talking 1st generation immigrants). Talk about a coming from violence. If anybody has the right to come here and commit crimes in our country (nobody does), it would be people whose country we decimated, killing hundreds of thousands of them in the process.

But that didn't happen. It hasn't happened with any demographic I know of. Not Irish, Polish, English, Spanish, Cuban, whatever. But the PERCEPTION that black or brown people are less worthy immigrants, or more prone to crime, or whatever, is definitely out there, despite any facts. Anti-white backlash, as GJ said.

Quote: beachbumbabs

Can't argue with your first paragraph, anyway.

I will, because it assumes the people coming here being poor and uneducated will always be a net loss to the country. That's like assuming a baby will always stay a baby and always be dependent on its parents.

I'm not saying it's a net gain either, but it an unfair characterization.

Aside from that, if this country had high standards, many of us wouldn't be here in the first place because many of our parents/grand/great grand showed up in similar conditions.

BBB.

I'm sorry, I thought that I read that many of them bring large sums of money to make the trip through Mexico and that's why they were traveling in caravans. To keep from getting robbed, beaten and raped by the Mexicans (you know, the good Mexican people you probably want to let in as well).

So you would like to put them to work as your personal helper in caretaking. Free/cheap labor? Sounds a bit like a form of indentured servitude to me, but OK.

I guess we need even more poor uneducated people here in the USA. That way we can get some cheap/free personal labor out of them. Good thinking.

(-;

Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: TigerWu

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Quote: TigerWu

A third of those people are planning to stay in Mexico, and many of the rest are going to ask for asylum in the U.S.

That's' supposed to make me feel better?

Yes?

You'd rather have them storm in under cover of night, or violently attack border guards in an attempt to get into the country?

Having people calmly and peacefully asking for political asylum is probably the most preferable way this can happen, other than them not coming at all, which is obviously not happening.

You think there's a good chance they will "storm in under cover of night, or violently attack border guards in an attempt to get into the country" if we don't allow them to ask peacefully? So in order to avoid letting violent people in that might storm in under cover of night, or violently attack border guards in an attempt to get into the country,
we have to be all nice? Sounds kinda like blackmail to me. I think they already have the President's answer.

I don't see why we should even consider letting them in just so they can take American jobs and American money just send it back to their own country. I won't even mention the crime they might bring to the USA. Perhaps the Caravans of people should use their money, organization, and efforts to rise of against the gang's, corruption, and violence in their own country instead of running away to ours.

That was the same argument given to the jews seeking asylum from the Nazis

Seriously!

Go watch the movie Voyage of the Damned. In the 1930s many countries refused to accept fleeing boatloads of jews who had escaped nazi germany. They wound up going back to the only country willing to accept them - nazi germany which sent them to the death camps

Come on guys be a student of history and lets not repeat over and over the same horrors and mistakes

couple thousand immigrants
A drop in the bucket
while
The stock market will tank today
Will drop at least 500 points today
Trump trashes our economy with a pissing war with China

Quote: rxwine

I will, because it assumes the people coming here being poor and uneducated will always be a net loss to the country. That's like assuming a baby will always stay a baby and always be dependent on its parents.

I'm not saying it's a net gain either, but it an unfair characterization.

Aside from that, if this country had high standards, many of us wouldn't be here in the first place because many of our parents/grand/great grand showed up in similar conditions.

I was jumping off of the specific "illegal " in agreeing with GJ on the rest of what he said. I think it's probably true that most if not all illegals arrive at least poor, and most are probably uneducated. But in general, I agree with your stance much more than several others in this thread.

I think it's a net positive for inbound immigration to not only continue, but grow by allowing many more in numbers. We were already too restrictive, then the Trump xenophobia has only pitted fed against city and state worse than before.

The process should be easier and admit more people. Perhaps there should also be an easier route to returning those who aren't a net asset as undesirable to their homelands. It's not a problem I know how to solve. But I do know that, historically, the US has only benefitted from open doors.

It's also untrue that Mexicans are a particular immigration problem. Besides the bigotry, the truth is that there was a large influx of Mexicans in the 1990s, but it became a net loss of Mexicans (leaving here in greater numbers than arriving) by a slight amount since 2000, and increased dramatically since 2008 and the great recession. From 2009-2016, (latest numbers available) it's been a net loss of 140,000 Mexicans per year. (Source: Steve Rattner)

So Trump is simply LYING about this being a problem. He knows, or should know, the true numbers. So the wall is revealed as a vanity project and a sop to that part of his base.

Quote: Greasyjohn

The vast majority of people illegally crossing our southern are poor and uneducated. They use our schools, emergency services and often have no insurance. Why the heck do any of our elected officials feel they have the right to spend my tax dollars to give free legal aid to illegal aliens to help them stay here illegally? ...

This is very factually misleading. The VAST MAJORITY of illegal immigrants (talking like 85% plus) come from people overstaying their legal Visa's. Yes we do have some of what you mentioned above, and I agree with you on that... however they are not the real issue that's being shoved in our faces. Trump thinks the wall will stop planes, which is why he's a f$&*%&* moron...

Quote: AxelWolf

Feel free to sponsor one and let him or her live in your house and you be responsible for their actions. I bet if you asked everyone who want's to let them in if they would be willing to let them stay at their house, they would say, HELL NO.

Are they paying rent? If so, then sign me up. I'd like to request a Middle Eastern family. Their food is INSANE.

Quote: TigerWu

Are they paying rent? If so, then sign me up. I'd like to request a Middle Eastern family. Their food is INSANE.

Actually my retort to axel was that i wouldnt want any american citizens in my house either lol

If you arent family or a girlfriend boinking me get your own place

EDIT: in fact the girlfriends need to get their own place too. Boink me and go home. I want my privacy

EDIT EDIT: come to think of it family too. Definitely dont want them taking over my television

Quote: beachbumbabs

Can't argue with your first paragraph, anyway.

People seeking asylum wouldn't be coming illegally. They wouldn't necessarily get it granted, but if they were allowed in, they would be here legally. (My only point to Axel, and to you, if it needs to be said to you.)

No question it's anti-white backlash. Every dog in the country has its ears covered, the whistles are so loud. Shithole countries. Mexican rapists. Etc ad nauseum. Spooling up the people with the armbands and the pitchforks becuz, you know, Amurrika. Hate sells here. Always has. Maybe not always will, though.

Might get ignored or whoosh right over heads, but nothing gets done without an attempt...

Quote: Hermann Goering

Why, of course, the people don’t want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don’t want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship…

Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.

There are none so blind, and all that...

Quote: darkoz

Actually my retort to axel was that i wouldnt want any american citizens in my house either lol

If you arent family or a girlfriend boinking me get your own place

EDIT: in fact the girlfriends need to get their own place too. Boink me and go home. I want my privacy

EDIT EDIT: come to think of it family too. Definitely dont want them taking over my television

This is just humorous

You keep throwing softballs like this and I'm eventually post a true/honest reply and enjoy another ban

Quote: darkoz

Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: TigerWu

Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: TigerWu

A third of those people are planning to stay in Mexico, and many of the rest are going to ask for asylum in the U.S.

That's' supposed to make me feel better?

Yes?

You'd rather have them storm in under cover of night, or violently attack border guards in an attempt to get into the country?

Having people calmly and peacefully asking for political asylum is probably the most preferable way this can happen, other than them not coming at all, which is obviously not happening.

You think there's a good chance they will "storm in under cover of night, or violently attack border guards in an attempt to get into the country" if we don't allow them to ask peacefully? So in order to avoid letting violent people in that might storm in under cover of night, or violently attack border guards in an attempt to get into the country,
we have to be all nice? Sounds kinda like blackmail to me. I think they already have the President's answer.

I don't see why we should even consider letting them in just so they can take American jobs and American money just send it back to their own country. I won't even mention the crime they might bring to the USA. Perhaps the Caravans of people should use their money, organization, and efforts to rise of against the gang's, corruption, and violence in their own country instead of running away to ours.

That was the same argument given to the jews seeking asylum from the Nazis

Seriously!

Go watch the movie Voyage of the Damned. In the 1930s many countries refused to accept fleeing boatloads of jews who had escaped nazi germany. They wound up going back to the only country willing to accept them - nazi germany which sent them to the death camps

Come on guys be a student of history and lets not repeat over and over the same horrors and mistakes

Winners do right the history books https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyage_of_the_Damned

Quote: Greasyjohn

And while you're at it, Trump, rename Denali back to Mt McKinley.

Alaska would thank the entire lower 48 if they would mind their own business. Almost every resident regardless of color calls Denali, Denali. It was also called "the great one' by natives. Quit naming stuff after your dead presidents. Alaska isn't interested. That was at least one good thing Obama did.

Name another battleship or carrier or space launch complex after what ever you want, let Alaskans name their own landmarks at least.

FYI, the locals in Barrow Alaska renamed Barrow, Utqiaqvik. It is no longer Barrow which was named after sir John Barrow of British Admiralty. Not interested.

Quote: petroglyph

Alaska would thank the entire lower 48 if they would mind their own business. Almost every resident regardless of color calls Denali, Denali. It was also called "the great one' by natives. Quit naming stuff after your dead presidents. Alaska isn't interested. That was at least one good thing Obama did.

Name another battleship or carrier or space launch complex after what ever you want, let Alaskans name their own landmarks at least.

FYI, the locals in Barrow Alaska renamed Barrow, Utqiaqvik. It is no longer Barrow which was named after sir John Barrow of British Admiralty. Not interested.

I was in Alaska in 2003, where my travels included a helicopter tour around and on the slopes of Denali. I didn't know what they were talking about for a while; then realized it was the local name. And NOBODY called it McKinley. When I finally clarified it was the same thing, they winced.

Quote: beachbumbabs

I was in Alaska in 2003, where my travels included a helicopter tour around and on the slopes of Denali. I didn't know what they were talking about for a while; then realized it was the local name. And NOBODY called it McKinley. When I finally clarified it was the same thing, they winced.

You forgot the age old rule:
When in Alaska do as the Alaskans

Quote: terapined

couple thousand immigrants
A drop in the bucket
while
The stock market will tank today
Will drop at least 500 points today
Trump trashes our economy with a pissing war with China

Don't give up your day job! By 500 point drop you really meant 230 point gain! Pretty close....

Quote: SOOPOO

Don't give up your day job! By 500 point drop you really meant 230 point gain! Pretty close....

If I am wrong
I will admit I am wrong
I was wrong
That's why I don't gamble on stocks. Too unpredictable :-)

Quote: SOOPOO

Don't give up your day job! By 500 point drop you really meant 230 point gain! Pretty close....

Libs look at the market at noon and
think it's over, they have no idea it
closes at 4pm. Only people with
money know that.

Quote: terapined

If I am wrong
I will admit I am wrong
I was wrong
That's why I don't gamble on stocks. Too unpredictable :-)

You know I was teasing. I think there are those (like me) who think the opposite.... that stocks are predictable over a long term. No guarantee of course, but I just can't see letting my money sit and be eroded by inflation.

Quote: EvenBob

Libs look at the market at noon and
think it's over, they have no idea it
closes at 4pm. Only people with
money know that.

Conservatives look at the market at 4pm and think it's over. They have no idea it never really closes. Only people with money know that.

Quote: rsactuary

Conservatives look at the market at 4pm and think it's over.

And trading in the US is indeed over.
Trading continues in other nations,
but I could care less. The world looks
at our market as the bellwether.

bellwether: an indicator or predictor

Quote: EvenBob

Libs look at the market at noon and
think it's over, they have no idea it
closes at 4pm. Only people with
money know that.

Once again we have this mythical liberal that doesn't exist except in the minds of some conservatives.

Reminds me of that old Family Circus gag.... "Not Me"

Except it's a ghost with the word "Liberal" on his chest that's taunting conservatives.

Quote: EvenBob

Trading continues in other nations,
but I could care less.

You should care, because responsible and educated investors have money in international markets. Only people with money know that.

Quote: TigerWu

You should care, because responsible and educated investors have money in international markets.

Nope, wrong. Some do and some
don't. The US market is plenty
enough for a lot of people.

Quote: EvenBob

Libs look at the market at noon and
think it's over, they have no idea it
closes at 4pm. Only people with
money know that.

Quote: rsactuary

Conservatives look at the market at 4pm and think it's over. They have no idea it never really closes. Only people with money know that.

I'm wrong I admit it
EB is wrong and he cant admit it
He always moves the goal posts :-)
lol

Quote: EvenBob

Nope, wrong. Some do and some
don't. The US market is plenty
enough for a lot of people.

Letting money sit in a 0% checking account is "enough" for a lot of people, too, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea.

Quote: Greasyjohn

The vast majority of people illegally crossing our southern are poor and uneducated. They use our schools, emergency services and often have no insurance.

Quote: Romes

This is very factually misleading. The VAST MAJORITY of illegal immigrants (talking like 85% plus) come from people overstaying their legal Visa's.

Talk about changing the playing field.

Quote: SanchoPanza

Talk about changing the playing field.

Can't both statements be true?

Haha.... Fox News loses their minds after Hillary calls them out on their obsession with her.

Way to prove her point, morons.

Quote: TigerWu

Haha.... Fox News loses their minds after Hillary calls them out on their obsession with her.

Way to prove her point, morons.

Truly amazing
Hillary speaks and Fox is all over it
Fox listens to Hillary
It amazes how many conservatives listen very closely to Libs
David Hogg is another person conservatives listen very closely to
Hogg recently tweeted that Laura should apologize to Labron
Breibart gave it wall to wall coverage on a single tweet and over 11k commented
http://www.breitbart.com/sports/2018/04/01/david-hogg-asks-why-laura-ingraham-never-apologized-lebron-james/
Amazing
Just a teen that tweets
Seems 1/2 of his 650k twitter followers are conservatives

Quote: SOOPOO

You know I was teasing. I think there are those (like me) who think the opposite.... that stocks are predictable over a long term. No guarantee of course, but I just can't see letting my money sit and be eroded by inflation.

I've often said that the stock market is kind of like casino gambling, but you are the house and have a long-term edge. In the short term, you could easily lose your shirt, that's why you have an emergency fund in easily liquid cash (usually 3-6 months expenses based on your situation). But over the long term the market always goes up, usually around 7-10% annually before inflation (depends on what numbers you use). As you get older and into retirement, you dial down the risk (more bonds, more cash, fewer equities) to preserve your capital while still maintaining some growth.

As to international exposure, it's a question that has come up a lot for me lately since I recently did a portfolio overhaul. One of my favorite financial bloggers who I respect a lot (and who's ideas I almost 100% follow) is JL Collins NH, who doesn't like holding international funds. His argument is that all the big US companies do business and have sales overseas, so you are already tapped in to that market by holding a broad US index fund. Big names like Bogle and Buffet have also said similar things, preferring to only hold US stocks.

In contrast all the big investment firms that offer "target date" or "all-in-one" funds now include international stocks, some up to 40% of the portfolio. Vanguard (who I consider to be the most investor-friendly firm) does this, and it's hard to ignore given their AUM and track record of looking out for their customers.

In the end, I was going to go with 30% of my portfolio in a total international fund, but my wife wasn't comfortable with that exposure so we dialed it down to 20%. But I wouldn't begrudge anyone who only held US equities.

Currently my portfolio is basically a Bogleheads 3-fund lazy portfolio.. 70% total us stock market (VTSAX or equivalent), 20% total international stock market (VTIAX or equivalent), 10% total US bonds (currently SWAGX in a Schwab account, I forget the Vanguard equivalent). Allocated for maximum tax efficiency across our tax advantaged and taxable accounts. My wife and I are young and want to retire early, so the portfolio accepts a lot of risk for maximum future growth (some people actually advocate for NO bonds in the accumulation phase of your career, but this advice goes against lots of research into modern portfolio theory; I'm okay with 10%).

I could blather on about this stuff for hours but usually do that over at the MMM investor forums. Maybe we should start a thread. I'm a firm believer in low-cost index funds and managing your own money. Pay a fee-only investment advisor for one-time or yearly advice if you want, but in today's world, you should be able to educate yourself. jlcollinsnh who I linked above has a great multi-part series if you are new to investing: the Stock Series.

Quote: SanchoPanza

Talk about changing the playing field.

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Quote: petroglyph

Can't both statements be true?

Of course. It's just like saying, "Apples are red and oranges are orange and bananas are yellow." Totally meaningless non-comparisons.

Quote: TigerWu

Haha.... Fox News loses their minds after Hillary calls them out on their obsession with her.

Way to prove her point, morons.

I have this theory that righties would be so much happier if Hillary were President.

She wouldn't have accomplished much, if anything, with the GOP Congress. (The irony is how little Donald has accomplished with the GOP Congress).

In November 2018, the GOP would likely have made massive gains in the House and possibly a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate with Hillary as President. Then they could have ridden those gains into 2020 and most likely taken Hillary down and elected a sane President while holding onto their huge majorities.

But, alas, they're stuck with Trump and his gang of incompetents while the #bluewave is building. Enjoy it while it lasts, righties!

Quote: ams288

I have this theory that righties would be so much happier if Hillary were President.

She wouldn't have accomplished much, if anything, with the GOP Congress. (The irony is how little Donald has accomplished with the GOP Congress).

In November 2018, the GOP would likely have made massive gains in the House and possibly a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate with Hillary as President. Then they could have ridden those gains into 2020 and most likely taken Hillary down and elected a sane President while holding onto their huge majorities.

But, alas, they're stuck with Trump and his gang of incompetents while the #bluewave is building. Enjoy it while it lasts, righties!

I agree with this 100%. Hillary would have been the best thing that could have happened to the GOP. Congress would have stonewalled her policies for four years, right-wing media would have had their boogeyman to drool over every single day, we'd see a Republican controlled Congress through 2020 and beyond, a Republican president in 2020, etc. Who know how far they could have taken it with a Hillary win and if they had played their moderate cards right. With the right (sane) people they could have had majority rule into the 2030's.

Quote: terapined

If I am wrong
I will admit I am wrong
I was wrong
That's why I don't gamble on stocks. Too unpredictable :-)

Looks like a delayed reaction
down over 700 points as of 3pm today
Wow
This sucks and its all due to Trump

There's a reason why Trump isn't bragging on the stock market anymore. His policies have stunted the bull run we were enjoying under President Obama.

#thankswhinylittleb**ch

Dow is down near 4,000 points since its high, almost all of which can be traced to trumps policy or inactions.