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March 15th, 2017 at 4:44:02 AM permalink
^I thought just saying "I am wearing all black and playing at Coyote Moon slot"would have been sufficient.
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
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March 15th, 2017 at 5:02:46 AM permalink
Quote: Nathan

^I thought just saying "I am wearing all black and playing at Coyote Moon slot"would have been sufficient.



If I was a moderator you would be gone after this statement alone. Since YOU made it known on the forum you were male, YOU knew that WoN was looking for a male. YOU knew that you were trying to deceive WoN, and if you really wanted him to make contact with you, you would have alerted him to the fact that you are female, or at least are identifying as such.

As far as the $100, I think WoN should figure out a way to get it to you. And YOU should figure out a way to donate it to charity.
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March 15th, 2017 at 5:13:23 AM permalink
I'll admit, I was trying to surprise WON. It backfired on me big time.
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
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March 15th, 2017 at 5:20:46 AM permalink
Quote: Nathan

I'll admit, I was trying to surprise WON. It backfired on me big time.



Probably the first gully truthful statement that you had made in this thread
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March 15th, 2017 at 6:49:49 AM permalink
Let's also state that you WERE NOT sitting at coyote moon. You were SITTING at wolf run
That fact that you admitted you were tying to fool pool pisses me off

Here is the gift cards

I'll wait to close the pool before sending them if at all to you

https://imgur.com/gallery/NGJKv
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March 15th, 2017 at 8:24:33 AM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

Let's also state that you WERE NOT sitting at coyote moon. You were SITTING at wolf run
That fact that you admitted you were tying to fool pool pisses me off

Here is the gift cards

I'll wait to close the pool before sending them if at all to you

https://imgur.com/gallery/NGJKv



If u dont send them can u giv them to me :)

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March 15th, 2017 at 9:36:05 AM permalink
Quote: Nathan

I wasn't trying to get WON to embarass himself. I promise that was me WON was looking at. I was wearing a black shirt, and a black skirt.



Saying you were wearing a skirt just MIGHT have been useful information.
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March 15th, 2017 at 10:15:15 AM permalink
Like I said, I didn't think this one through. I am also the same one who posted about a $100 Macy's gift card Gulfstream Park Casino promotion without researching the promotion thouroughly.. I can be impulsive sometimes .
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
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March 15th, 2017 at 11:16:41 AM permalink
Quote: Nathan

Like I said, I didn't think this one through. I am also the same one who posted about a $100 Macy's gift card Gulfstream Park Casino promotion without researching the promotion thouroughly.. I can be impulsive sometimes .

Too much testosterone perhaps see the gynecologist.
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March 15th, 2017 at 12:58:46 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

WizardofNothing, there used to be a member here with the handle StrictlyAP who welched on payment of a $100 wager. I don't think you should act like him. Pay what is owed.



Maybe instead of WoN paying the $100 to Nathan, he pays it to Ayecarumba instead. "Pay what is owed" as some would say.
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March 15th, 2017 at 2:32:30 PM permalink
Nathan, I know how you feel. I've been pretending to be one cool dude on these forums when really I'm a total dweeb. Sometimes real life sucks. I don't have any gift cards to offer but we should hang out.
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March 15th, 2017 at 2:34:45 PM permalink
Don't listen to RogerKint, Nathan, RogerKint is the friggin' man both on here and in real life.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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March 15th, 2017 at 3:13:20 PM permalink
Quote: RogerKint

we should hang out.



you do know the "32 years old" claim is now in question?
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March 15th, 2017 at 5:15:56 PM permalink
Gentlemen, gentlemen (and ladies).

If this thread has taught us anything, it is that there are a very wide variety of individuals who are attracted to this board.

While most active forum members are intelligent and wise to the ways of the world, not all are.

Some are naive, weak, poorly educated, damaged folk who probably mean well but are essentially without a clue.

Should they be ridiculed and consigned to the slag heap, simply because they don't fit the usual image of a WoVer?

Do not shun: be inclusive.

Remember: "There but for the grace of god go I."
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March 15th, 2017 at 5:36:26 PM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

you do know the "32 years old" claim is now in question?



Acrtually, I am 33. I JUST had a recent birthday. I promise I am 33. :)
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
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March 15th, 2017 at 7:18:34 PM permalink
Back to the topic at hand, one of the casinos in the next city told me they give brand new members a loss rebate of only $10 which is mailed to your house days later as a voucher or something like that. Not even given back the same day. That's insulting , especially considering another local casino gives/gave new members $50 in free play right off the bat.
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
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March 15th, 2017 at 7:22:17 PM permalink
Gtfo we are 10000000 percent being trolled
There is not any casino that is giving a 10 dollar loss rebate !!!!!!!!!
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March 15th, 2017 at 7:24:02 PM permalink
Like seriously I'll take the f'ing suspension
This is bullshit- you aren't 32 - I saw it with my own eye you were quick stopping the buttons at a penny a spin like a total degen gambler and looked like a hobo with all your belongings under the.bag you lied about being a guy - when I didn't care who the f you were just had no idea who to look for - everything is one off with you and you bait the firggining forum with nonsense. You lied about promotions that didn't exist and tried to make up stories one after the other - let everyone else be trolled by you but I won't- take the gift cards via pm and get wardrobe that suits your gender of the day
Total frigging bullshit
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March 15th, 2017 at 7:41:00 PM permalink
Like I told you, that "hobo bag," has gotten me compliments as it has a picture of the Miami Beach skyline. And it's filled with my magazines since I love to read magazines. Plus, how do you expect me to get a gift card over the internet? Also, I can't believe you thought I was 40-55. I recently just turned 33. Most people tell me they think I am around 28. I also didn't intentionally lie about the "Macy's gift card giveaway," I just didn't research it thoroughly before putting it on here. I found out from this website after I named the promotion and casino that only one box had the candle and the Macy's gift card. All other boxes had just useless candles. I was playing pennies because I was being courteous to you and waiting on you. I was planning to be there from 1-2 not past 4PM before I decided to leave.
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
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March 15th, 2017 at 8:44:39 PM permalink
I think we should hook up ZenKing and Nathan. Dibs on the firstborn. They should be the next Stephen King.
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March 15th, 2017 at 9:07:38 PM permalink
So much for the afterglow.
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March 16th, 2017 at 2:39:58 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

I think we should hook up ZenKing and Nathan. Dibs on the firstborn. They should be the next Stephen King.



That got a chuckle out of me. In Aug we are going to Maine and plan on stalking his house. Maybe if I see him I can ask if he will be the god father
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March 16th, 2017 at 6:04:02 AM permalink
I promise that the "10 dollar loss rebate promotion," is/was a legitimate promotion. It was at a Native American owned Casino.
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
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March 16th, 2017 at 6:30:45 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Don't listen to RogerKint, Nathan, RogerKint is the friggin' man both on here and in real life.

They don't call him RogerK*nt for nothing.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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March 16th, 2017 at 6:39:12 AM permalink
Quote: Nathan

And it's filled with my magazines since I love to read magazines.

I cant recall who it was now, either Dean, Kentry, Nathan I think that had some strange story about a magazine.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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March 16th, 2017 at 6:42:55 AM permalink
Quote: Nathan

I promise that the "10 dollar loss rebate promotion," is/was a legitimate promotion. It was at a Native American owned Casino.

Normally its play $10 get $10 or something like that.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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March 16th, 2017 at 7:35:50 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I cant recall who it was now, either Dean, Kentry, Nathan I think that had some strange story about a magazine.

Dean from here.
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March 16th, 2017 at 7:49:59 AM permalink
If anyone doesn't think we are being trolled after that then they deserve it
Even down to the smiley face
Absurd just absurd
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March 16th, 2017 at 8:14:02 AM permalink
Quote: miplet

Dean from here.



Weird. It's the identical style of writing. With a response from Kentry right below it.
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March 16th, 2017 at 8:19:29 AM permalink
Kentry from the magazine thread here

Wouldn't it be amazing if you saw Nathan playing the same Wolf Run machine that Kentry was playing. That would be so funny LOL :)
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March 16th, 2017 at 8:25:46 AM permalink
Funny that Nathan was playing wolf run as well-of all the machines in the casino
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March 16th, 2017 at 8:59:32 AM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

If anyone doesn't think we are being trolled after that then they deserve it
Even down to the smiley face
Absurd just absurd



What exactly do you mean "trolled?"

You verified that this person is real, that she exists.

The quality and content of her posts can be questioned, but not her corporeal existence.

I suspect she has difficulty marshalling and communicating her thoughts, for whatever reason.

Besides, if she irks you so much, just hit "ignore."

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March 16th, 2017 at 9:34:12 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

What exactly do you mean "trolled?"

You verified that this person is real, that she exists.

The quality and content of her posts can be questioned, but not her corporeal existence.

I suspect she has difficulty marshalling and communicating her thoughts, for whatever reason.

Besides, if she irks you so much, just hit "ignore."

Me, I take my entertainment where I can find it; the longer you dance on the stage with her, the more I'll guffaw.

Donald Trump they call a troll and he's real.
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March 16th, 2017 at 9:37:28 AM permalink
In response to mr v



Hypothetically you and I make a bet
You claim to be a 49 year old male
I say you aren't real

You show up a 38 year old female
Which part of the story is the REAL story
I claimed NATHAN. Was not who he claimed to be
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March 16th, 2017 at 11:07:03 AM permalink
I am not Dean nor Kentry. I promise.
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
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March 16th, 2017 at 11:12:11 AM permalink
Quote: Nathan

I am not Dean nor Kentry. I promise.


Or Nathan lol
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March 16th, 2017 at 11:14:44 AM permalink
Poker, touche, ;) as my real name is Karen but Nathan is my screenname. I promise this is my only account.
In both The Hunger Games and in gambling, may the odds be ever in your favor. :D "Man Babes" #AxelFabulous "Olive oil is processed but it only has one ingredient, olive oil."-Even Bob, March 27/28th. :D The 2 year war is over! Woo-hoo! :D I sometimes speak in metaphors. ;) Remember this. ;) Crack the code. :D 8.9.13.25.14.1.13.5.9.19.14.1.20.8.1.14! :D "For about the 4096th time, let me offer a radical idea to those of you who don't like Nathan -- block her and don't visit Nathan's Corner. What is so complicated about it?" Wizard, August 21st. :D
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March 16th, 2017 at 11:50:26 AM permalink
I'm beginning to think Nathan may have scammed WON by never actually being at Gulfstream. All we know, Nathan claims to be at a Wolf Run by a TITO. Some story about some mystery dark skinned man playing beside. There are many dark people in Florida and many Wolf Run machines. The Miami beach bag, it might not have even been that, maybe Won gave into power of suggestion. Heshe never mentioned a bag, Won did. Never mentioned being a girl, he did, then suddenly she's a girl now.
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March 16th, 2017 at 12:05:06 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

What exactly do you mean "trolled?"

You verified that this person is real, that she exists.

The quality and content of her posts can be questioned, but not her corporeal existence.

I suspect she has difficulty marshalling and communicating her thoughts, for whatever reason.

Besides, if she irks you so much, just hit "ignore."

Me, I take my entertainment where I can find it; the longer you dance on the stage with her, the more I'll guffaw.


Trolling does not necessarily mean the person doesn't exist, or even that they are different than who they say. Trolling means posting things so absurd that are solely meant to rile people up. Such as making up casino giveaways that are way too good to be true, posting ideas about curtains surrounding muted slot machines, mundane comments about the weather etc
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March 16th, 2017 at 12:28:44 PM permalink
Quote: Nathan

I am not Dean nor Kentry. I promise.

I'm 99.54% sure you are Dean. It seems you purposely chose common male names to make sure people thought you were a guy.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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March 16th, 2017 at 12:34:39 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I'm 99.54% sure you are Dean. It seems you purposely chose common male names to make sure people thought you were a guy.

She's not Dean or a dude. I promise. :)
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March 16th, 2017 at 2:37:44 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I'm 99.54% sure you are Dean. It seems you purposely chose common male names to make sure people thought you were a guy.



Response to this part 1:

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/28436-gambling/3/#post581663

Also, this thread, started by Dean:

Title: BAD COMPS AT YOUR LOCAL CASINO?

Quote: Dean

One of my locals makes you spend hundreds of dollars in slot play and then gives you a measly $5 in "withdraw" money. What an insulting, unfunny joke! They will lose slot players quickly with this stingy attitude! So, what bad comps do your local casinos give?



https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/slots/26394-bad-comps-at-your-local-casino/

Not to mention the magazine thing. And the common location.

3 strikes, you're out.

HOWEVER, WoN has a debt to make good on. I'm not banning anybody until that's resolved. Get 'ur done.
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March 16th, 2017 at 2:46:56 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Response to this part 1:

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/28436-gambling/3/#post581663

Also, this thread, started by Dean:

Title: BAD COMPS AT YOUR LOCAL CASINO?



https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/slots/26394-bad-comps-at-your-local-casino/

Not to mention the magazine thing. And the common location.

3 strikes, you're out.

HOWEVER, WoN has a debt to make good on. I'm not banning anybody until that's resolved. Get 'ur done.


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March 16th, 2017 at 2:48:51 PM permalink
Babs I have them in my hand- what way do you suggest sending them to he/ she ?
So that they do not claim to not have received them- can I text you them
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March 16th, 2017 at 3:01:19 PM permalink
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Babs I have them in my hand- what way do you suggest sending them to he/ she ?
So that they do not claim to not have received them- can I text you them



What would texting babs have to do with making sure the it can or can't claim it received them?
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March 16th, 2017 at 3:03:46 PM permalink
Someone besides the party involved to verify they were sent
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March 16th, 2017 at 3:43:05 PM permalink
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billryan: One local casino here has gift Thursday. $200 coin in gets you your choice from about about a dozen gifts.



200 coin in and what did you actually lose COIN OUT of your pocket. I've seen conflicting definitions of 'coin in' just on this board. Logically, I would assume your player card, because I don't believe any gifts are available without using a card for these promotions would show at least 200 loss amount after all play is done.
But that's my take on it.
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March 16th, 2017 at 3:45:43 PM permalink
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Someone besides the party involved to verify they were sent



Isnt that what certified mail is for? Return receipt and tracking number?
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March 16th, 2017 at 3:55:18 PM permalink
Babs, I promise I am not Dean. And in that thread Dean claimed that the lady was selling her magazine in a casino. I could never see myself degrading myself so low as to sell a magazine ina casino. I just innocently read magazines in my leisure time. I actually lost money chasing the Macy's gift card myself even though I still had my ATM card on me(At the time, I still thought that EVERYONE got the Macy's gift card that made 100 points or $5 a point) and I got up and went home. I didn't sell anything or beg people to let me put my player's card in their machines like those two guys were doing. I just decided,"Okay, I lost money. Don't use the ATM card. Just go home."
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March 16th, 2017 at 3:58:07 PM permalink
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And FFS, would people please stop asking which casino runs this promotion? Not that a particularly lot of money can be made from this promotion (unless you can do it every day or can get multiple GC's at a time), but we should have some respect for the APs who may be playing this promotion or promotions like it.



That's what I'm saying, and even if you could only do one per day without getting cut off, say they have a 95% VP game...which would usually be a horrible game:

Okay, so I need $500 coin-in with an expected loss of $25, I can turn the gift card for $75 with almost zero effort, expected profit $50. In my personal case, were it the casino closest to me, I could be there in five minutes, I could be at the gift card place in another five minutes, then I could be back from there in five minutes. I've got fifteen minutes of travel time, the game will take me a half hour to play (800 hands/hour at $1.25 = 400 hands per half hour), so I've got a profit expectation of $50/hour if we say it will take me fifteen minutes to get to the machine and wait in line for the gift card.

If there is VP there, it is probably better than 95%, and there are probably other games still will lower variance than that and a better return (possibly).

Point is, if I have a $50 profit expectation and I only have to carve an hour out of my day for it, I'l find an hour everyday and it won't be hard.

Are you actually saying that you can walk into a casino, guarantee you will only lose $25 in a half hour and walk away with 450 intact? Then pick up your gift card? Or is this just a statement of odds to qualify a play? Because my reality is a hell of a lot different than yours. The very best I can see is losing all your 500 cash and getting a gift card for $100 value that macy's does not allow for cash redemption. So one loses 500, but gains new macy's underwear and socks.
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