darkoz
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May 25th, 2016 at 9:55:28 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

You don't know that. Just because you haven't identified a logical way to exploit it doesn't mean it's not somehow exploitable. Perhaps during the freezing mode if you hit cash out and the change light at the same time it will give you 1000 credits. Highly doubtful that's just some made up BS, but you can't say for certain the glitch is not sign there's something more to it.

In one of your other post where you talk about knowing when a bonus is due, or whatever you were claiming. I'm very confident that if that's real and not just a frequent bonus that appears to come up within x number of spins, it's most likely exploitable but you just haven't figured out how to exploit it.

People always assume stuff about slots because there are general rules that are mostly true. However there are situations where the rules don't apply and there's more than meets the eye. Indiana Jones was a perfect example of that. If someone said you should play the machine that had the most action on it. You would have just discounted that as just a theory. Many others didn't realize this aspect at the beginning they would just run and grab the first open seats and wait.

Here's my speculations on why the glitch is moving from machine to machine, if in fact is. Someone else playing it has complained or said something. A slot tech moved the chips or something, perhaps thinking that would fix the problem. Either way the machine that had the problem was fix and the customer was happy so the slot tech assumed his job was done. He may have tested the other machine as well but the glitch did not appear in the test mode or whatever way he tested it. Perhaps the person plays different machines on this bank occasionally and keeps asking them to fix it the problem and they just keep doing the same thing and moving the chip to a different machine. The customer probably just tells them how the last slot tech solved the problem.

Is it possible they have the machines on a central server or something?



Touche, if there is some AP'able way of manipulating a freezing or stuttering machine, I certainly don't know about it.

Definitely, the cashout while the game is freezing mode will not work. I've done that in my hurry to leave a machine. At this casino (and curiously only at this casino in my experience) if the game has not finished the game and animation when you hit cash out, the game locks up and you have to get a slot attendant to give you a hand-pay, regardless of the amount. It happened four times the same day on different machines before I realized I needed to wait for the spin to conclude. It never happened to me again after that.

I have no knowledge about them using a central server or not although perhaps the locking of the machine when cashing out may be due to a central server issue..
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AxelWolf
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May 25th, 2016 at 10:01:20 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Touche, if there is some AP'able way of manipulating a freezing or stuttering machine, I certainly don't know about it.

Definitely, the cashout while the game is freezing mode will not work. I've done that in my hurry to leave a machine. At this casino (and curiously only at this casino in my experience) if the game has not finished the game and animation when you hit cash out, the game locks up and you have to get a slot attendant to give you a hand-pay, regardless of the amount. It happened four times the same day on different machines before I realized I needed to wait for the spin to conclude. It never happened to me again after that.

I have no knowledge about them using a central server or not although perhaps the locking of the machine when cashing out may be due to a central server issue..

I don't think they are moving the chips. I think it's some type of communication error on the entire bank sometimes it happens and sometimes it doesn't, you just keep running into it by chance.
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rsactuary
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May 25th, 2016 at 10:10:24 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

?????????????

I'm talking about moving the chip to a different machine of the same type, not moving the entire machine. it would be like fixing a broken bill validator or something.



In Vegas, that's moving an EPROM which is a really big deal and has to be reported to the state. Not happening frequently. While I don't know the rules outside of Nevada, I doubt they are much different.
AxelWolf
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May 26th, 2016 at 4:13:23 AM permalink
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In Vegas, that's moving an EPROM which is a really big deal and has to be reported to the state. Not happening frequently. While I don't know the rules outside of Nevada, I doubt they are much different.

You think every time they move a chip they report it? NOT. I have watched a few casinos move chips without reporting. I actually think they can report it after the fact within a certain amount of time with some simple email or letter.

A large amount of money was added to a progressive at a particular casino on a common type of machine.
According to the casino management, they swore the chip had never been changed, nor had the machine been moved or added.
It's obvious the chip was changed to something that made it significantly harder to hit, or the machine was possibly below the state min to begin with. It would make no sense to have a jackpot cycle take so long on this particular machine. Gaming was called, no record was found that it had been changed. Perhaps it was reported and they just won't give that information out.

It's all a mystery to this day.

I guess it's possible there's some other explanation and some facts got distorted.
Personally I think some ass covering was going on or the casino would possibly have to give out bunch of cash.
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rsactuary
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May 26th, 2016 at 5:15:01 AM permalink
OK good luck.

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