bw
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December 5th, 2014 at 8:11:33 PM permalink
Quote: sc15

Why don't you buy the scarf at the casino's gift shop, and ask for a comp for it.



lol, that's genius.
sc15
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December 5th, 2014 at 11:21:51 PM permalink
tbh, if it's a small item, the host probably won't even know she gave you a comp for the gift you gave her. (You think hosts waste time looking at every line item? It's only the total that matters). Nor would she really care. In fact, she'd probably overcomp you if she knew the money was being spent on her, LOL.
strictlyAP
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December 5th, 2014 at 11:28:06 PM permalink
Not going to say much but if you play above the 1 dollar level on slots and black chip or higher in tables I will say that a 600 gift of shoes nets me at least ten times that in discretionary conps and at certain casinos will get a matchplay offer changed over to slot play so on a 1k match offer I get 1k slots do that once a month and yoy are solid
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Greasyjohn
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December 6th, 2014 at 1:04:35 AM permalink
I haven't given a gift to a host in years. That's because the mailers give me all I want. But once I gave a host some cookies and another reasonably priced food item. Next time I stayed at the property I was upgraded to a jacuzzi suite and given a card for full FB at any of the outlets. The location will remain nameless but it was very nice. The room was so nice that I went down to the front desk to switch it for a regular room. My thinking was that I didn't want such a grandiose room and have my comps maxed out and get less on future visits (their regular rooms are very nice). The front desk told me that my room comp didn't in any way jeopardize or use up any future comps. After two nights in the jacuzzi suite (with the living room and bar that sat four we never used) my girlfriend says to me, "Do you think we can stay one more night?" I called my host and she took care of it.

I don't think any of this would have happened except for the thoughtfulness of the gift. The host appreciated it. Human nature works that way. The gifts I gave were only about $10 total. I like gifts in that range. Spend any more and it looks like you're trying to buy influence, and it detracts from the gift. I was comfortable with that, and I think the host was too.

That suite remindes me. Sometime I'm going to have to use one of those bidets.
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December 6th, 2014 at 1:35:08 AM permalink
Double the gift and you won't need the bidet. Just call the host. :-)
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Greasyjohn
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December 6th, 2014 at 1:43:54 AM permalink
Quote: 1BB

Double the gift and you won't need the bidet. Just call the host. :-)



That's funny.
AxelWolf
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December 6th, 2014 at 3:48:39 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

My main host gets a gift of some sort every time I see him. In return, I get comped WAY above my level of play. At least, if their computer offers are indicative of my level, he goes way beyond that with the level of RFB he sets up. I don't see it as a quid pro quo, though, it's more like a continuing thank you for his personalized service and making things break in my favor.

For your host, large scarves (of the right kind) would be a good choice because scarves are completely in fashion right now; it needs to be either an infinity scarf (sewn ends together for looping around the neck) or at least 6 foot long (if she's short) to 8 ft (if she's tall). A print or design that picks up the color of her eyes would be ideal. If it's less than 20-30 dollars, a 2-3" pin of an animal (probably not an elephant, cow, or pig; birds, lions, giraffes, dogs, cats) with or without crystals for 10-15 dollars would complete the gift. Macy's, Ross, TJMaxx, numerous other department stores would have both.

If she's not the type of woman to wear scarves, a good bottle of wine (at store prices, not restaurant) or a cordial could work; Sambuca, Bailey's, Cointreau. But that kind of thing's all around her so it's ok but not great as a gift.

Way over comped maybe or maybe not. My question is.... Does that turn your playing time into plus EV? Are you ahead over the lifetime of your play at that place? Perhaps they would comp that stuff ,tip or no tip.

A host is never WAY over comping you as long as the casino has the best of it.

When I tip the host, I make dam sure I'm getting the best of it. Example: I was playing $5 FPDW for about 3 hrs a day(no competition) I received a minimal amount of comps the first few times from the host.

After after my 3rd session and 2 sets of deuces, I decided to give him $50. He told me to go shopping in the gift shop and bring this( $300 credit slip).

The 4th day I Tossed him $150. After that the host was giving me about $700 per day in shopping during my trip, even if I played for just 1hr. I got Gold jewelry, watches, collectibles. He even reimbursed my outside mall shopping in cash, and had the limo take me there. On top of that it was Air fair Full RFB or anything I charged to the room, including in-room movies.

Other hosts were doing the same or better in Reno and Tahoe at the time. The tipping went up as did the shopping amounts. I should have skipped the junk and stuck to gold.
Some hosts would give you 20% of losses per day, but not on table games, at least not for me.

I know guys that are really pushy with hosts and get plenty. I know some people who are timid. Hosts can usually sense how much you know about comps. If they feel they can min comp you they will. If they think you're being greedy and taking advantage they will tighten up not bend.

I still always feel a bit strange asking for more than I know I deserve from hosts especially ones I haven't dealt with much. I`feel like i'm talking to my principal or something. I really dislike the awkwardness of them saying, sorry I can not do that for you right now. It's like getting turned down for a date.

My suggestion. The first time ask for less than you deserve, then Tip your host like $10-$25 at that time, depending on your play and what you ask for and what you want. He/she will usually give you a hint what they are willing to do for you.

Very Good sign, Host: "If there's ANYTHING I can do for you just let me know"
Bad sign, Host " come see me after you are done playing, ill assess your play and see if you're eligible for anything"
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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December 6th, 2014 at 5:24:53 PM permalink
I wasn't really thinking of it being a bribe. She's given me a lot of personalized service like calling in my room/invitation for multiple VIP parties, telling me all the concerts/getting me tickets, taking me to baseball games in the casinos VIP suite, inviting me to basketball games (not a fan), etc...

The scarf is a perfect idea, I've seen her wear them before.
strictlyAP
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December 6th, 2014 at 8:47:56 PM permalink
I'd go for the burberry scarf classic!!!!
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December 6th, 2014 at 9:37:52 PM permalink
Not to derail this conversation, but I feel I play the same or better level of play as discussed above, and have never thought about getting a host. I have heard it on here before "if your play deserves a host you will get a host", BUT the wife and I play $5 slots for hours at times, sometimes with a card, sometimes without, I have never had anyone say anything about my play. The table games I play low limit, could this be the reason I am not approached? Or should I ask someone for a host?? I appreciate any feedback.

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