AceTwo
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November 17th, 2014 at 2:11:09 PM permalink
Quote: warpzones

So could someone please direct me to a thread where this is all explained step-by-step and clearly here on this forum?

I would like to look into this further..



The best place to learn about BJ is the website BJ21. There is a free BJ School Tutorial (copied by many others). That's the Original BJ school.
I have learned from that exact website about 10 years ago.

Learning to Count and Playing with an Advantage is not that diffucult for someone with Average Arithematic an Memory skills.
Getting away with it for minor stakes is still not that difficult. Most casinos will ignore or do not bother you for minor stakes and small time of paly.
Getting away with for higher stakes is what is all about. That is where the skill is. Any casino around the world that realises hat you are a counter and are playing for relatively higher stakes will ban you. Depending on the casino and the skill that someone has from confusing that the casino that he is an average player the banning happens everywhere in the world. Depending on the country/state it could be outright ban or contermeasures (ie reduced penetration).

If casinos allowed counters to do their trade, I will not think twice about becoming a Pro and making a huge amount of money.
But if casinos allowed counters to do their trade, the game will not exist. Or would exist just with CSM (Contiunuing Shuffling Machines).

Regarding 6 or 8 decks, I actually find it easier to count 6 decks than 1 or 2 decks. That's just because I played mostly 6 decks and only played 1 or 2 decks very few times. It makes little difference to counting skill whether is 2 or 6 decks.
Counting is a relatively easy skill.
Learning Basic Strategy and Counting took me about 30 hours training at home. After about 100 hours real casino play, I was quite profficient.
The other thing that needs to be learned (depends on the person) is the phychological issue of not losing your cool. You lose 5 Big bets in a row (which could be 2 months salary) in 5 minutes and you still put out the Big bet if the count warrants it. This is easier said than done and some people just cannot do it.
The swings in the bankroll is a roller coaster and you need to get used to that.

BUT as I said above the higher you get the stakes, the more the casino watches and the more easily to get banned.
I think it is very doable to play at a level that results to an Average Hourly win of $50 per hour. To get to $100 per hour is quite difficult. And very few people can get away consistently with play for $200 per hour. Beyond that is almost impossiple (at least on a consistent basis)
MrMarvellous
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November 28th, 2019 at 1:59:09 PM permalink
If someone has a winning strategy why would they share it, I wouldn't and I do have a roulette strategy that wins, sorry but that is reality, Best to devise your own plan and stick to it and keep it to yourself.
EvenBob
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November 28th, 2019 at 2:06:49 PM permalink
Quote: MrMarvellous

If someone has a winning strategy why would they share it, I wouldn't and I do have a roulette strategy that wins, sorry but that is reality, Best to devise your own plan and stick to it and keep it to yourself.



I understand this post completely.
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
aruzin
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November 29th, 2019 at 2:13:40 AM permalink
Quote: MrMarvellous

If someone has a winning strategy why would they share it, I wouldn't and I do have a roulette strategy that wins, sorry but that is reality, Best to devise your own plan and stick to it and keep it to yourself.



Roulette has something like 5% house edge, hence many are skeptical of any winning strategy that can change that edge. Keep your strategy to yourself, but at least tell us what it is based on - so we can perhaps make up our own minds as if it is viable or not... !!!?
Mission146
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November 29th, 2019 at 1:38:15 PM permalink
Quote: MrMarvellous

If someone has a winning strategy why would they share it, I wouldn't and I do have a roulette strategy that wins, sorry but that is reality, Best to devise your own plan and stick to it and keep it to yourself.



So do I: I just need to buy a roulette wheel, layout and convince someone to play at my roulette table.
Vultures can't be choosers.
Mendoza
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November 29th, 2019 at 2:53:22 PM permalink
I leave when win.
weezrDASvegas
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December 13th, 2019 at 3:50:29 AM permalink
STRATEGY and SYSTEM are equivalent For many gamblers. Sophistikated guys sez the strategy is a group of similar systems.
if the systems dont work the strategy doesnt work. card counting blackjack is a strategy for many, or a collection of counting systems 4 some bj players. There are many counting systems with defenders and detractors as well. Hilo is considered the best by some, also the worst by others. All depends on how much money one lost...
weezrDASvegas
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December 13th, 2019 at 3:58:42 AM permalink
Quote: aruzin

Roulette has something like 5% house edge, hence many are skeptical of any winning strategy that can change that edge. Keep your strategy to yourself, but at least tell us what it is based on - so we can perhaps make up our own minds as if it is viable or not... !!!?


all roulette wheels are biased. If you find the bias you can win with a group of numbers. I saw stats on gambling forum and sites. 6 numbers won serious money after lots of spins at the same table.
ChumpChange
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December 13th, 2019 at 6:37:17 AM permalink
The Double Street Quad System https://www.casinonewsdaily.com/roulette-guide/double-street-quad-system/
Boz
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December 13th, 2019 at 8:54:11 AM permalink
There is another forum I won’t name filled with Billionaires who lament that they won so much on Roulette that most casinos removed it.

5.26% HA be damned. It really is easy if you take the time to see what numbers are Hot, Cold and Due.

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