My same-sex Vegas wedding
Quote: MrVAs a Catholic priest posting on a public forum, FG runs the risk of eternal hellfire and damnation if he strays from established church doctrine.
The church does not bless, sanctify, nor acknowledge the legitimacy of homosexual marrriage.
See: church doctrine
They also disapprove of couples divorcing.
No wonder the church is on the ropes in The Modern World.
Ha ha. You can't even take matters into your own hand during those amorous alone times. :-)
I have found that people with a negative opinion about marriage and especially about their own marriage tend to be miserable people in general. You always navigate the negativity real well though. So you brushed it aside like a real pro.
I only wish you would post more of "the day in the life" kind of posts. I find them fascinating. I understand very well why you don't though. Maybe one day you can retire and not have to worry about heat and then write a book. That would be awesome! I would buy it and I'm pretty sure everybody else here would as well.
I'm also baffled by the Padre's statement. Didn't the Pope have some positive things to say about the gay population? If not supporting, at least not condemning? Maybe I'll have to go back and research that.
I'm also wondering if there's a line on which state will be the last to legalize gay marriage? I figure it will be between Texas, Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana.
Congratulations again! I wish you both years and years of happiness!
Imho, the "Father" has no right to judge these men.
Quote: DnalorailedDo I understand correctly that a catholic priest is posting on a gambling forum, condemning a gay person for getting married? I know we are all imperfect, but should a Catholic priest be gambling in the first place? Is it just his own weakness he is fighting regarding gambling. I studied the bible many years growing up and know that to adhere to it strictly would prohibit one from gambling. No disrespect, that's just the way it is. Coming from a religion that sought to adhere to biblical principals pretty strictly, it amazed and still amazes me to see raffles and bingo and "Vegas" nights in/at churches.
Imho, the "Father" has no right to judge these men.
If you're going to be a priest, you have to go where the sinners are. This was fertile ground for FrG as a well-respected member for a long time, but he had to depart the forum for his own reasons. I'm glad to see he came back, but I'm guessing it was an isolated visit, not a return. Too bad.
Before you judge FrG, you should probably go back and read some of his threads, both here and on Diversity Tomorrow. He's not judging kewlj or condemning him, if I read him correctly. He's giving KJ the support he feels he's allowed to give.
I can even offer a counter-theory as to why he would post here, and I am not saying this is why he is here:
Where better place to find people to set back on the straight and narrow?
Btw OP. Congratulations!
Quote: beachbumbabsIf you're going to be a priest, you have to go where the sinners are. This was fertile ground for FrG as a well-respected member for a long time, but he had to depart the forum for his own reasons. I'm glad to see he came back, but I'm guessing it was an isolated visit, not a return. Too bad.
Before you judge FrG, you should probably go back and read some of his threads, both here and on Diversity Tomorrow. He's not judging kewlj or condemning him, if I read him correctly. He's giving KJ the support he feels he's allowed to give.
Check out the DT site.
FrG has been on there on a daily basis going back and forth with Nareed and Evenbob in the thread "Evolution and the Pope"
Quote: DnalorailedI went back and read some of his blogs...he gambles.
At least now you are speaking from something you learned, not from an assumption.
Quote: DnalorailedI am both gay and a gambler and NOT a sinner, whatever that means, and I do not need a priest to come on here and "save" me.
Btw OP. Congratulations!
You're missing my point about FrG. So I'm glad you went back and read him; I would encourage you to read even more of his posts. (The "sinners" thing was a joke.) He's not a hypocrite, and he's not here to judge anybody. If he were he would've gotten run out on a rail. He brings a great, thoughtful perspective and a fair amount of humor, along with more than his share of humility and brotherhood.
FrG left this site because he saw a conflict of interest, so to speak. At least, his superiors thought it was. I was taken aback by his statement only in light of the Pope's stance on gays. I never thought it was condemnation. Just a lack of support.
JMHO YMMV
Quote: texasplumrIt always cracks me up when people join a forum and after a month think they know everybody. I'm an Atheist and straight. I have nothing but respect for both FrG and Kewlj.
FrG left this site because he saw a conflict of interest, so to speak. At least, his superiors thought it was. I was taken aback by his statement only in light of the Pope's stance on gays. I never thought it was condemnation. Just a lack of support.
JMHO YMMV
I assume the first part was about me. I don't profess to know anybody. But I have a right to feel however I felt about his comment. I expressed my disagreement with it clearly and respectfully according to forum rules. But if newbies aren't welcome on this site, then delete me, and keep it for the small "clique" of approved posters that it seems to be....
Quote: DnalorailedDo I understand correctly that a catholic priest is posting on a gambling forum, condemning a gay person for getting married? I know we are all imperfect, but should a Catholic priest be gambling in the first place? Is it just his own weakness he is fighting regarding gambling. I studied the bible many years growing up and know that to adhere to it strictly would prohibit one from gambling. No disrespect, that's just the way it is. Coming from a religion that sought to adhere to biblical principals pretty strictly, it amazed and still amazes me to see raffles and bingo and "Vegas" nights in/at churches.
Imho, the "Father" has no right to judge these men.
Catholics are fully well allowed to gamble, even pursuant to their Religion, provided they do so in moderation.
The church only does whats best for the churches coffers. If they believe something will cost them valuable parishioners, I mean CUSTOMERS , they will change it up or just be ambiguous. I believe Pope Francis said something ambiguous about the gays.Quote: MrVAs a Catholic priest posting on a public forum, FG runs the risk of eternal hellfire and damnation if he strays from established church doctrine.
The church does not bless, sanctify, nor acknowledge the legitimacy of homosexual marrriage.
See: church doctrine
They also disapprove of couples divorcing.
No wonder the church is on the ropes in The Modern World.
Quote: mickeycrimmDo you know anything about buying a slave, Ace?
Nope - I am not in the business of buying or selling slaves — although we are all virtual slaves to the world banking establishment.
Quote: DnalorailedI am both gay and a gambler and NOT a sinner, whatever that means, and I do not need a priest to come on here and "save" me.
Btw OP. Congratulations!
I am an atheist and straight Dnalorailed and I have respect for the padre — I have debated him over on DT and we are both respectful of one another's belief and lack of belief, respectively. I do not think the padre is on here trying to save anyone. I actually think the debates he takes part in are actually informative and fun. You can always "block" him and then you will have no knowledge of what he does hereon.
The church allows marriage but not priest. Just because they feel its is ok for the members doesn't mean its ok for the church leaders. Priest should be held to a higher standard and they should discourage gambling, especially in casinos.Quote: Mission146Catholics are fully well allowed to gamble, even pursuant to their Religion, provided they do so in moderation.
If a priest joined a Drinking forum, made his name FrAlcoholDrinker, often talked about drinking, visiting liquor stores, what kind of sales they had on JD. Do you find that appropriate?
Everything I can think of about gambling is just the opposite of what God is about.
It's rare people do it in legitimate moderation. Think about how often you put in more money than you wanted to, got upset about losing got a rush from winning.
If you're a family man with kids (not on a AP) how can gambling benefit your kids?
Quote: aceofspadesNope - I am not in the business of buying or selling slaves —.
The bar association in NY will be very
glad to hear that.
Quote: EvenBobThe bar association in NY will be very
glad to hear that.
Thanks Bob - you're a mensch
Quote: BuzzardBenjamin Todd Jealous is researching Ace's great grandfather at this moment.
Slavery was abolished before my ancestors arrived here
I've got a wife.
Quote: MrVSlaves, I don't need any stinking slaves.
I've got a wife.
LOL! For now, anyway...
Quote: PerditionWait until Black Friday, you'll get better deals.
The article says the traders MUST adhere to the price lists!
Quote: AxelWolfThe church allows marriage but not priest. Just because they feel its is ok for the members doesn't mean its ok for the church leaders. Priest should be held to a higher standard and they should discourage gambling, especially in casinos.
If a priest joined a Drinking forum, made his name FrAlcoholDrinker, often talked about drinking, visiting liquor stores, what kind of sales they had on JD. Do you find that appropriate?
Everything I can think of about gambling is just the opposite of what God is about.
It's rare people do it in legitimate moderation. Think about how often you put in more money than you wanted to, got upset about losing got a rush from winning.
If you're a family man with kids (not on a AP) how can gambling benefit your kids?
AMEN!
