AxiomOfChoice
Joined: Sep 12, 2012
• Posts: 5761
August 30th, 2014 at 5:09:48 PM permalink
Quote: djatc

Call me a sucker but I never understood the meaning of "kill pots" wtf does it mean?

When someone wins a pot of over a certain size, the next pot is "killed". That means that:

1. The stakes increase, and
2. The winner has to post a blind equal to the new (larger) big blind.

Edit: The stakes increase only once. If the next pot is killed as well, the stakes stay at the same (higher than normal) level. If the pot is not large enough, the stakes drop back down to the initial level.

You might have a 4-8 limit game where the kill pots are 6-12, for example.
24Bingo
Joined: Jul 4, 2012
• Posts: 1348
August 30th, 2014 at 6:23:30 PM permalink
In my experience, the kill pots are usually BB-BB rather than BB-2BB. But in the game that brought this into the discussion it was the latter.

Either it's over a certain value, or it's two in a row.
The trick to poker is learning not to beat yourself up for your mistakes too much, and certainly not too little, but just the right amount.
AxiomOfChoice
Joined: Sep 12, 2012
• Posts: 5761
August 30th, 2014 at 6:29:27 PM permalink
Quote: 24Bingo

In my experience, the kill pots are usually BB-BB rather than BB-2BB. But in the game that brought this into the discussion it was the latter.

Either it's over a certain value, or it's two in a row.

Oh, right, 2 in a row. I forgot about that. I have not played a kill game in a long time.

The kill games I have played were always two in a row. If you win one pot over a certain size, you get the kill button. If you win the next pot and it is also over a certain size, it's a kill. The games I played were with a "half-kill" (I think it was 6-12 to 9-18, but it has been so long that I really don't remember). I think a "full kill" would double the stakes.

I think, in this case, once it's killed, it stays killed until either the pot isn't big enough, or the person who caused the kill loses a pot.
98Clubs
Joined: Jun 3, 2010
• Posts: 1728
August 30th, 2014 at 9:56:34 PM permalink
Thomas: Have you tried PLO-H/L yet? Got quartered yet?
Some people need to reimagine their thinking.
AxelWolf
Joined: Oct 10, 2012
• Posts: 19851
August 30th, 2014 at 10:20:01 PM permalink
Quote: Thomas

Does anyone think PLO is a game where skill is paramount?
The game is the most maddening of all gambling card games in my opinion!
I call it the great equalizer! Who said, "Never give a sucker an even break!"
Whoever it was, certainly didn't play Omaha for a living!!! Of that I'm sure.
One can play the game like a Strativarius, but if the cards
are not smiling on you that day, you'll end up wanting to quit the game forever!
Losing both ends of every proposition , ( made hands and monster draw hands )
will try the patience of most, then having people beat your premium
hands with garbage hands will melt your brain, regardless of how strong you
are emotionally. I find I cannot contend in thiat atmosphere, I believe I have
the necessary skills, but after several thrashings in a game where I haven't
made a mistake, I tend to lose my composure a tad. Once this occurs, I'm a goner,
my play rapidly deteriorates and I begin to play personal poker against the administrators
of my beatings. I'm well aware this is not a winning tactic and will generally get up
once this happens. I said generally, except on those rare occasions where everything
happens perfectly, in the exact order needed to entice me to continue to play even though
I know full well in most cases, it's a lost cause. The next day is when I'm really pissed at myself,
shoulda quit, shouldn't have paid that guy off, all the shoulda, woulda, & coulda's you relive after
a monster dump the night before! Anyone ever been in this zip code?
I need a little cheese to go with my whine!
Sorry, but if you play Omaha, especially for a living, I know this has happened to YOU
Misery loves company

Ask Neutrino about this. You will have to track down what name he is using now. No need to look very far.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Buzzard
Joined: Oct 28, 2012
• Posts: 6814
August 30th, 2014 at 11:21:24 PM permalink
WSOP Pot Limit Omaha. 386 entries . A lot more than in 1998 when Phil Helmuth finished 5th. And when he finished 4th in 2000.

His best POT LIMIT OMAHA finish. The other finishes. 7, 8, 10,15,15,16,16.

TUFF F***ING GAME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shed not for her the bitter tear Nor give the heart to vain regret Tis but the casket that lies here, The gem that filled it Sparkles yet
djatc
Joined: Jan 15, 2013
• Posts: 4477
August 30th, 2014 at 11:44:04 PM permalink
I haven't tried Omaha at all, but as anything with an advantage and variance, you need double what you think you need to be underrolled.
"Man Babes" #AxelFabulous
tringlomane
Joined: Aug 25, 2012
• Posts: 6272
August 31st, 2014 at 12:58:02 AM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

Oh, right, 2 in a row. I forgot about that. I have not played a kill game in a long time.

The kill games I have played were always two in a row. If you win one pot over a certain size, you get the kill button. If you win the next pot and it is also over a certain size, it's a kill. The games I played were with a "half-kill" (I think it was 6-12 to 9-18, but it has been so long that I really don't remember). I think a "full kill" would double the stakes.

I think, in this case, once it's killed, it stays killed until either the pot isn't big enough, or the person who caused the kill loses a pot.

In hi/lo split games (Omaha8, Stud8, etc), a kill is activated when someone "scoops" a pot over a certain size. I think the kill works much better in those type of games.