Quote: AxiomOfChoiceSo, I've only been half-following this thread, but...
Tomspur works for SLS?
Yes and I think he announced it on here a while back, before they opened.
Axel is hooked on phonics. Get over it :-)Quote: AxiomOfChoicehttps://www.google.com/#q=define:roomer
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Quote: AxelWolfI have no doubt Ahigh normally conducts himself properly. And for now, everyone in on their best behavior. I'm just wondering if Ahigh sometimes gets to comfortable at casinos and starts pushing lines. I'm not saying he does this, he acted properly the few times I watched him. However, roomers have it, he can get a little difficult. Eventually someone is going to have a bad day.
can you comment....
What is your casinos over all thoughts on DI?
And AP's? (not cheats)
Will you 1 or welcome both like Fiesta did at one point?
We are not concerned about DI in the least.
As for AP's, the casino is actively going after all AP's with a special team both on the floor and via other means.
We however pride ourselves in customer service and A high is welcome to play for as long as he pleases. If he has an issue at some point we will attempt to sort it out amicably and on such a way where both parties are happy and can continue to enjoy each others company.
Quote: TomspurAs for AP's, the casino is actively going after all AP's with a special team both on the floor and via other means.
Better watch out, Axel!
Quote: TomspurWe are not concerned about DI in the least.
As for AP's, the casino is actively going after all AP's with a special team both on the floor and via other means.
We however pride ourselves in customer service and A high is welcome to play for as long as he pleases. If he has an issue at some point we will attempt to sort it out amicably and on such a way where both parties are happy and can continue to enjoy each others company.
As long as that reunion is not in the casino ?
But... also, no card tiers? Really? That is horrible. Perks like skipping the line for the cab or cafe make all the difference in the world.
Maybe S means service like they say and you won't have artificially created lines and intentionally short staffs. Half the casinos have done this and I miss just standing around responding to "next" and not being stuck in the senior day parade. Now some casinos have handicapped lines like they should have from the beginning to get around their bs and lies with your own bs and lies.Quote: AxiomOfChoiceI was looking at all the info I could find about SLS online (their website, vpfree2...). It looks like they have some good VP games, but crappy freeplay on those games (that is one thing I like about MGM -- you get full freeplay on full-pay machines). Still, with NSUD at high denoms, it still looks like it's worth playing.
But... also, no card tiers? Really? That is horrible. Perks like skipping the line for the cab or cafe make all the difference in the world.
Quote: AxiomOfChoice
But... also, no card tiers? Really? That is horrible. Perks like skipping the line for the cab or cafe make all the difference in the world.
they should have asked Revel how the no card tiers thing worked out.
Quote: djatcTrip report. The bar machines had alcohol spilled over them and the buttons didn't work. I proceeded to order a drink and hulk smash the deal/draw button when many bartenders told me to stop slamming the machine.
Casino bartenders are braindead about keeping the buttons on the bartops in good working order. It's usually the sugary drinks that freeze them up. Make them give you some club soda and napkins to clean the buttons up.
I was aware of this before. Not much to AP in SLS. It's a fun place to drink and GAMBLE for fun.Quote: AxiomOfChoiceBetter watch out, Axel!
Sorry to say but, a team to catch AP's is a wast of time and money. AP's usually get the money before anyone notices. Even casinos who hire the "best of the best consultants" get hit all the time. (It may have happened already, from someone with a big bells on)
A reputation for NOT letting people play smart and win is bad.
If Locals and poppies hear stuff like this, they will avoid gambling in a place known to go after legitimate APs. It seems that quite a few local players and ploppy's think they are a good gambler of some kind. I have heard comments from complete ploppys like, "Don't play at X casino, that place does not like winners, If you start to win they will toss you out."
A place that's AP friendly is way more valuable then chasing them off.
People buy books, read blogs (queen of comps, best sellers list). People want to play in a place were they have the best chance to win and not get hassled.
Normal players might go in with the Idea of playing smart because of good odd and a good reputation but, they rarely do.
If players think they have no chance to win and will get run off, why go there to gamble in the first place?
A good reputation, of good odds and being friendly to APs is FAR, FAR more valuable.
The casino is going to be dealing with millions of people losing their asses. To be worried about a few AP's making some profit seems ridiculous (going after cheaters is a different story).
I'm not saying the casino should put in $100 FPDW and give 10x points, then invite Don Johnson to play BJ with a 20% loss rebate, or to let AP's ransack the place. You just don't need a team of people for that. There should be a happy medium.
I was recently told NO soda water near the newer type of machines. It supposedly makes them worst.Quote: mickeycrimmCasino bartenders are braindead about keeping the buttons on the bartops in good working order. It's usually the sugary drinks that freeze them up. Make them give you some club soda and napkins to clean the buttons up.
They are not even supposed to clean the screens with Windex or anything other than some special spray.
No doubt this is just a scam to sell products.
http://online.wsj.com/article/PR-CO-20140825-905672.html
Well then I Will be hoping you and your company does fantastic and tons of people will be rooting for you.Quote: AhighNanoTech sees a future where AP's are celebrated not chased away.
Very interested in seeing what you guys have going on.
Quote: AhighNanoTech sees a future where AP's are celebrated not chased away.
So you'll sell games to casinos where the player
can get and keep an advantage and the casino
loses money? That only happens in Superman's
Bizarro World, where everything is opposite that
of Earth. Sorry..
Obviously you really don't understand much AP. Both the casino and a player can have an advantage. Its been happening forever and still does. A very popular VP game lasted for years like this.Quote: EvenBobSo you'll sell games to casinos where the player
can get and keep an advantage and the casino
loses money? That only happens in Superman's
Bizarro World, where everything is opposite that
of Earth. Sorry..
PS. good progressives are a good example.
Quote: EvenBobWho is agent 146, exactly.
Erich Gimpel, deep cover tough-as-nails German spy. Exposed at last.
NanoTech sees a future where AP's are celebrated not chased away.
Not on this planet ! Better chance I find Dan Lubin's card in my slot machine.
This is like the whole mantra of kicking out a card counter by low pen, bad rules, and immense heat at the cost of 3 or 4 horrible blackjack players. Unless the counter is extremely well-funded, I don't see the harm in letting them play.
I disagree with Axel put in $100 FPDW and give me 10x points, as well as 20% on all my losses. I'll bring every $100 laying around my house, I'll even rob 6 banks for $32k and screw filling out CTRs.
Quote: Buzzard" I'll even rob 6 banks for $32k " I don't have a problem with that. Just don't forget what Little Beaver said when he grew up to be a white man ! I mean besides " I did not kill my wife. "
I didn't see a single episode of Justin Beaver, what did he say?
Quote: AxelWolfBoth the casino and a player can have an advantage. .
Not in my world. I have the advantage or I
don't play. I leave that small time stuff to
youse guys. Keep tinkering. Pack of smokes
here, free room there. Yeah baby..
It's possible for more than 50% of the players on a game to be AP if there is enough money coming from the non-AP players to spread around.
It's always about the bottom line. Casinos often forget they are in the business of putting smiles on people's faces.
Winning in part due to diligence in play is a pretty good way to get your players to smile.
And some do just that.Quote: EvenBobNot in my world. I have the advantage or I
don't play. I leave that small time stuff to
youse guys. Keep tinkering. Pack of smokes
here, free room there. Yeah baby..
Some also make over 100k per year tinkering around on the "small stuff." You only know about things you read on the internet.
I'm sure Mickey can clue you in a bit.
Quote: AxelWolfAnd some do just that. Some also make over 100k per year tinkering around on the "small stuff." You only know about things you read on the internet. I'm sure Mickey can clue you in a bit.
Well, yeah, I live in a state where the max bet is $2 and the max jackpot is $800. And I don't get a lot of those $800 jackpots. And I'm not playing a whole lot at the $2 level. I have a lot of different plays that involve video poker, video keno, and line games. The jackpots I play for are mostly much smaller than that. I'll just do a typical scenario, a $180 jackpot on a five-spot keno progressive.
The bet is 50 cents. The meter starts at $100 and runs 4%. The 3 out of 5 pays 5, and the 4 out of 5 pays 32. I won't do all the math here but the average cost to produce the solid five, rounded off, is $150. So I find a lot of plays around $180, some a little less, some a little more. So its a $30 earn plus, with a 4% meter I'm expected to put $31 in the meter per play. That's a $61 earn.
On turbo speed the game plays at 40 games per minute, which means average seat time is about 40 minutes. That $61 earn per 40 minutes equates to the seat time on these plays being worth over $90 an hour on a $1200 an hour wager.
Once I snap the meter off on that particular machine I might not get another play on it for months. So its not like I'm whacking the hell out of any one casino, taking up to much seat time so they don't get at the ploppies. I don't have one single play these days where the seat time is more than an hour.
You don't have to have massive bankroll and play high denom. You just have to have the right opportunities. The rest of it is how many plays can you get in a year?
Quote: mickeycrimm
You don't have to have massive bankroll and play high denom. You just have to have the right opportunities. The rest of it is how many plays can you get in a year?
It's always a fine line between playing something that requires a ton of bankroll, and finding very big edges on small denominations. 0.17% on $1 10/7 db is pretty damn small but available everywhere, up to $1. I'm sure the bankroll requires probably at least 8-10 royals, and you won't make much.
On the flip side you can make 0.76% on FPDW on quarters. Both probably equal to about the same hourly, because of the edges involved per 5 credit bet.
I don't like anything under 3%, and this is based on returns not tied up in longshots (reversible royals, any high keno hits, high progressives). Freerolling royals would be pretty damn sweet (4oak promos, multiplier days, cash for volume) since you can play realistically a long time until you start to go bust. I also prefer guaranteed money, or at least a bet where I'm likely to win a small amount most % of the time, but it has to be worth my time (playing $5 matchplays around town is probably +EV, but is it worth your time and sanity?). These days my mailers and match/freebets have already been mapped out for optimum use of time.
Snapping off low progressives on slots can cost you as well, unless you like playing minbets about x1000 to reduce variance.
Wynn does not have card tiers. I happened to read this while I was sitting in it, and double checked with the Red Card people there to confirm they haven't changed that. They haven't.Quote:no card tiers?
I hesitated to mention that in this context, because it might sound like saying it to advocate it as the route to success and casino happiness and better looking servers for all. I'm not. I've enjoyed my big-shot fancy-card line-jumping at least as much as the next degenerate. Just mentioning it, since I was just in that other place that only has one kind of card with no tiers. I don't have any opinion about whether it is a good or lousy or mediocre thing for this specific boutique property.
Quote: DrawingDeadWynn does not have card tiers. I happened to read this while I was sitting in it, and double checked with the Red Card people there to confirm they haven't changed that. They haven't.
I hesitated to mention that in this context, because it might sound like saying it to advocate it as the route to success and casino happiness and better looking servers for all. I'm not. I've enjoyed my big-shot fancy-card line-jumping at least as much as the next degenerate. Just mentioning it, since I was just in that other place that only has one kind of card with no tiers. I don't have any opinion about whether it is a good or lousy or mediocre thing for this specific boutique property.
I really, really, really hate waiting in line. If one place makes me wait in line and one place does not, I will play at the place that does not. The casino should hate their big players waiting in line too. That is valuable gambling time being wasted! They are simultaneously costing themselves money and pissing off their best customers.
If I know that I will have to wait half an hour for a cab to leave a place, I will just not go. It's that simple. I don't care as much about buffet/cafe lines, since I don't eat there (and I suspect, neither do most people who qualify for the higher tiers). But unless you are comping me a limo, you had better let me skip that taxi line, or I won't be back.
One thing that MGM casinos are missing is a priority line at the cage. They have it at the players' club desk (at least, at some properties), but not at that cage. I have been known to hang on to chips and cash them in high limit slots or the high limit room the next time I am there. They treat you a lot better there anyway, since at the main cage they grill you about having outstanding markers, whereas in high limit they just don't care.
At the cage:
<hand them a $1000 chip>
"Do you have any outstanding markers"
"Yes, but only for $5k, and I don't leave for a few days, and my credit limit is several times that"
"I can't cash this for you if you have outstanding markers"
"It's only $1000. I want to play some machines. Just give me cash"
"I have to call your host to verify"
"For $1000??? Seriously?"
"Yes"
At high limit slots:
"Can you cash this for me?"
"Sure"
Quote: AxiomOfChoiceI really, really, really hate waiting in line.
I won't do it, especially in Vegas. If a buffet has
a line with more than 10 in it, I'll eat in a cafe.
I know when the lines are gone, so I wait till
then to eat anyway. If the bank ATM has a line,
I'll go inside. If all the checkouts have lines in
the store, I'll self checkout.
Quote: djatcI didn't see a single episode of Justin Beaver, what did he say?
Ask Red Ryder !
If you used a CARD or had enough action you wouldn't have to. Pit will give you a comp with no card.Quote: EvenBobI won't do it, especially in Vegas. If a buffet has
a line with more than 10 in it, I'll eat in a cafe.
I know when the lines are gone, so I wait till
then to eat anyway. If the bank ATM has a line,
I'll go inside. If all the checkouts have lines in
the store, I'll self checkout.
You aren't confusing Robert Blake with Jerry Mathers are you?Quote: Buzzard" I'll even rob 6 banks for $32k " I don't have a problem with that. Just don't forget what Little Beaver said when he grew up to be a white man ! I mean besides " I did not kill my wife. "
Did you know that Beaver and Wally were the first non-athletes on a box of Kellogg Cornflakes ?
Angel did !
Quote: BuzzardFor once I am not the one confused. I does know the difference between Little Beaver and The Beaver !
Did you know that Beaver and Wally were the first non-athletes on a box of Kellogg Cornflakes ?
Angel did !
Watch out, that is going to be on the next Wizard trivia quiz!
I liked the place, but I'm pessimistic about it. It was pretty dead for a place that just opened. This was Wednesday at about noon, but even so. I considered trying UTH, but kept walking, though the dealer beckoned me, because there was nobody else on the table to vulture. I didn't see anyone playing big on any tables, though I could easily have missed it.
I walked everything. The pool was nice, not spectacular. The SLS has an LA feel, in that it's hip and kind of... I'm trying to think of a more neutral word for vulgar. For example, they have a big photo display and it's a bunch of glamour shots of rock stars and actors. It's hard to imagine a more boring subject for me, but that's just me. I like when the other ritzy places mix in some legit art, or at least something interesting or pretty. Flowers, exotic birds, Popeye.
Now, I know there are people who consider places like the Aria or Wynn to be vulgar too, but I think there's some undeniable beauty to be found in those places. The SLS is more about being clever and contemporary. That's fine with me. Not my prefered cup of tea, but I can still enjoy it.
There was a lot of thought in everything. The dealer's uniforms, which were different in the high limit section. All the little slogans and jokes. Incredible investments of time and mental energy and creative juice. Lots of little touches, like cucumber and lemon water dispensed at the pool. It would be sad if the place didn't at least have a good run. Maybe it's a nighttime joint.
You can sort of tell that it's all grafted on to the skeleton of a lesser facility. It was hard to pinpoint, but one example is that the bathrooms are the old double hinged doors, as opposed to the walk-in style you'd find elsewhere on the strip.
The burger place sounds good, but was almost empty. The breakfast place was crowded and looked pretty good. I had intended to eat there, but I saw the size of the portions and decided to wait until I was much hungrier. Is it really weird to take left over pancakes home in a doggy bag? They looked tasty enough to warrant it and I'd rarely be able to finish them.
even sitting on it yet.
Quote: aceofspadesA friend of mine is staying there - the window shades are a photo of a crowd of people…the room looks interesting
This room looks VERY small to me. The mirror is designed to make it look bigger. Room size is probably one of those things that is a result of 'redoing' a place on an existing skeleton, rather than building from scratch.
As for the room design....that's just gross. Who puts a sofa/couch at the foot of a bed like that?
https://www.casino.org/news/sls-las-vegas-rebranding-to-iconic-sahara-hotel-casino
Glad to see that dumb white blob thing go.
Perhaps that's changed?
Quote: AxelWolfSLS Las Vegas Rebranding to Iconic Strip Rat Pack Hangout Sahara Hotel & Casino
https://www.casino.org/news/sls-las-vegas-rebranding-to-iconic-sahara-hotel-casino
Glad to see that dumb white blob thing go.
What was that blob thing supposed to be?
I have no clue. it's one of the worst eyesores in Vegas. Its even worse than those dumb rocks we paid millions(or whatever the price was) to paint and stack out in the desert.Quote: MaxPenWhat was that blob thing supposed to be?