Beethoven9th
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February 21st, 2014 at 3:45:12 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I'm saying that if you took the average 13 year old kid form the 1940's and put him VS a 13 year old kid from 2014. the kid from 2014 would run circles around the kid from 1940 and have him pissing in his pants in every aspect.

Did you see that 8th grade test in a previous post?? I doubt any 8th grader today (or any of the forum members here) would ace that test!
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February 21st, 2014 at 3:48:33 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Did you see that 8th grade test in a previous post?? I doubt any 8th grader today (or any of the forum members here) would ace that test!



Unless they accept stick figures, I'm certainly failing the sketching question.
Beethoven9th
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February 21st, 2014 at 3:54:09 PM permalink
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This test is made artificially difficult because it is about a century old. What is important today will, for the most part, be unimportant 100 years from now.

It's funny because you reposted that 8th grade test, yet I don't think you bothered to read it. In the "Civil Government" section, almost none of those questions are "unimportant".


Quote: endermike

This test is focusing on memorized facts and lacks any critical thinking...That is why your comparison is invalid.

Again, I don't think you read my previous post:

http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/off-topic/17132-usa-v-canada-split-from-dont-hate-betting-systems/3/#post330417


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It is nonsensical to say that folks who know how to do antiquated skills are "smarter" because they have those skills.

*facepalm*

No one even made such a claim.


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I would wager for the reasons I stated, on average children born since 1990 are in fact smarter than those born before 1950.

Unfortunately, there is ZERO evidence to support that belief, only anecdotal evidence (which is irrelevant).
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February 21st, 2014 at 3:58:50 PM permalink
Answer this:
Advances in prenatal and postnatal care. Historically, large numbers of pregnant women behaved in ways we now know reduce intelligence in kids (smoking, drinking, and lack of vitamins). There are far fewer kids who don't go to school today as compared to the past. These are incontrovertible facts.
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February 21st, 2014 at 4:00:07 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Quote: Quote: endermike



I would wager for the reasons I stated, on average children born since 1990 are in fact smarter than those born before 1950.




Unfortunately, there is absolutely ZERO evidence to support that.



I would take that wager, Beethoven, if I were you.
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Beethoven9th
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February 21st, 2014 at 4:02:53 PM permalink
Quote: endermike

Answer this:
Advances in prenatal and postnatal care. Historically, large numbers of pregnant women behaved in ways we now know reduce intelligence in kids (smoking, drinking, and lack of vitamins). There are far fewer kids who don't go to school today as compared to the past. These are incontrovertible facts.


OK, then the earth is round, and the sky is blue. There are incontrovertible facts. (How this has anything to do with kids being smarter today than 100 years ago is beyond me...)
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February 21st, 2014 at 4:07:35 PM permalink
Quote: endermike

Answer this:
Advances in prenatal and postnatal care. Historically, large numbers of pregnant women behaved in ways we now know reduce intelligence in kids (smoking, drinking, and lack of vitamins). There are far fewer kids who don't go to school today as compared to the past. These are incontrovertible facts.



I would answer you in some detail, but it's a difficult subject (eugenics) for people on this board to look at dispassionately. I'm not interested in posting information that will get attacked and picked apart for emotional reasons.
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AxiomOfChoice
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February 21st, 2014 at 4:11:10 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Unfortunately, there is ZERO evidence to support that belief, only anecdotal evidence (which is irrelevant).



Actually, there is evidence to support this. It's called the Flynn effect. One theory is that it's caused by the iodization of salt.
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February 21st, 2014 at 4:11:53 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Did you see that 8th grade test in a previous post?? I doubt any 8th grader today (or any of the forum members here) would ace that test!

I doubt any normal person then or now would come close to Acing that test. Even if kids back then were taught to memorize the answers, it dose not mean they know what it means. Its like learning a song or something you know the words but have no clue what it means.

I don't think being able to memorize and answer a bunch of questions properly makes someone smart, being able to understand, reason and solve problems.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Beethoven9th
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February 21st, 2014 at 4:14:51 PM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

Actually, there is evidence to support this. It's called the Flynn effect. One theory is that it's caused by the iodization of salt.

Don't know if that applies here since endermike already stated that he doesn't believe in comparing test scores from previous generations.


Quote: AxelWolf

Even if kids back then were taught to memorize the answers, it dose not mean they know what it means.

Well, you can also say that about kids today. Just because they have access to a ton information, it doesn't necessarily follow that they know what it means.
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