BleedingChipsSlowly
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January 20th, 2014 at 9:18:44 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Point is, if you drink and gamble you don't
take gambling seriously. How could you
if you willingly tamper with your ability
to make sound decisions.



I would agree that if you are gambling serious money you should do so seriously, i.e. alcohol free. However, I have room in my life for non-serious gambling which I enjoy as an entirely separate activity when socializing with friends. If I am having a martini planing 25-cent JoB slots while keeping my wife company I am unconcerned about a few mistakes of play. My point is I disagree with your categorical statement drinking while gambling means you have issues. Perhaps you would not qualify that activity as actual gambling. Fair enough. There is a time and place for everything.
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EvenBob
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January 20th, 2014 at 9:23:43 PM permalink
Quote: sodawater

you don't have to have full use of "your blood" to play roulette, bob. a chimp could play it.



Then if you're drinking give the chimp your
money and go up to your room.
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EvenBob
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January 20th, 2014 at 9:29:13 PM permalink
Quote: BleedingChipsSlowly

I would agree that if you are gambling serious money you should do so seriously, i.e. alcohol free. However, I have room in my life for non-serious gambling .



See, I don't understand what that means. If
you're shopping for something and you have
$300 to spend, you soberly research it, find
the best deal, and buy it. You don't decide
you want a TV, throw back a few shots of
tequila and a 6 pack, and have your wife
drive you to Best Buy.

Yet you'll take $300 to the casino, gamble
with friends while throwing back shots
and drinking half a dozen beers. Then
shrug your shoulders 2 hours later when
all the money is gone. There's a disconnect
there somewhere.
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Mission146
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January 20th, 2014 at 9:30:02 PM permalink
The stores don't seem to sell the six-packs any cheaper in Vegas. It seems if I want to drink, and can do so at an expected loss less than it would cost to buy the same amount of the beverage, my ER is better to drink and play than to buy alcohol from a store and take it to my room!
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
ClarkWGriswold
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January 20th, 2014 at 9:45:33 PM permalink
Crown & Coke
Or if I'm at MSS, then some of their homebrews.
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BleedingChipsSlowly
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January 20th, 2014 at 10:05:40 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

See, I don't understand what that means. If
you're shopping for something and you have
$300 to spend, you soberly research it, find
the best deal, and buy it. You don't decide
you want a TV, throw back a few shots of
tequila and a 6 pack, and have your wife
drive you to Best Buy.

Yet you'll take $300 to the casino, gamble
with friends while throwing back shots
and drinking half a dozen beers. Then
shrug your shoulders 2 hours later when
all the money is gone. There's a disconnect
there somewhere.



When drinking at the $5 BJ table at night I am there for the entertainment. Whether I win or lose is inconsequential. I never buy in for more than I am willing to part with for that entertainment. I do know an play BS as religiously as possible, given that drink will diminish your ability to reason. Other players take even money on their BJ. Players get their knickers in a twist because they believe someone's misplay has caused the deck to get out of whack and everyone to lose. Two weeks ago I talked a bourbon-soaked youngster out doubling down on a hard 20. True story. I watch the anguish of others when the dealer draws to 21 on the fifth card and they claim the game is rigged. Clueless newbies make outrageous decisions - and win. I just smile at it all through a scotchy-scotch glow. I do not lose any more than I would have to pony for the tab at a local bar if I watched a football game.

In the morning I play higher limit tables and so so seriously. I have black tea and watch the cards. Absolutely no booze. I buy in for enough to make the results meaningful, but never so much that I can't afford to lose what's on the table. It is a different, disciplined enjoyment.

Call my behavior disconnected if you wish. I'm fine with that. By the way, I have never left a casino with no money. Not even close. I guess you could say I just play at gambling. Perhaps that is the part you don't understand.
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CrystalMath
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January 20th, 2014 at 10:11:13 PM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

If available, snooty pale ales or ipa's. My fave in Vegas this past year was dogfish head 90 minute IPA comped at the quad. Yes the quad. And I typically short-coined 7/5 TB+ for the comp. +EV with beer cost.

If no good selection, I go with budweiser.


+1 for the pale ales, but I'd rather have water than a Budweiser.
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DMSCR
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January 20th, 2014 at 10:11:56 PM permalink
Water, Green Tea or Jasmine Tea if available.

Since I don't drink at all.
EvenBob
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January 20th, 2014 at 10:12:35 PM permalink
Quote: CrystalMath

I'd rather have water than a Budweiser.



There's a difference?
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BleedingChipsSlowly
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January 20th, 2014 at 10:15:11 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

The stores don't seem to sell the six-packs any cheaper in Vegas. It seems if I want to drink, and can do so at an expected loss less than it would cost to buy the same amount of the beverage, my ER is better to drink and play than to buy alcohol from a store and take it to my room!



Bingo! Three martinis over two hours at the 25-cent JoB slots for about $5, tip included. Same three drinks in the restaurant for close to $40. Might get the cost down to $10 buying a fifth at the liquor store and drinking in the room, but that's no fun at all!
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