AP Employment opportunity
Quote: TomspurIt's just amazing to me that the success stories had to roll in first before people took this offer seriously. I have not even met Axel or dj but I can tell you in my mind they are perfectly trustworthy cats!Tom, make sure you save up the $20 you will be owing me soonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.
Hope you guys make a killing. I will be back in August and we can go for a few beverages!!!
Actually I received a great deal of PM's soon after I posted this(I was very surprised at a few of them, sorry Bill Gates I cant afford you) . I did in fact find a few people. And a few people are on hold. I tell everyone things change in the AP world each day, sometimes in seconds. One 24/7 solid play got chopped down significantly, it had lasted for like 7 months. looking back it was a mistake not to do this sooner. Unfortunately this is why I had to put a few people on hold. My worst nightmare is to have someone give up a different job opportunity or change something in their life with dreams of doing AP work and have to count on me. Perhaps it would be easy if I treated people like employees and just business, but I cant. I wont even work with someone I cant befriends with.Quote: TomspurIt's just amazing to me that the success stories had to roll in first before people took this offer seriously. I have not even met Axel or dj but I can tell you in my mind they are perfectly trustworthy cats!
Hope you guys make a killing. I will be back in August and we can go for a few beverages!!!
I mentioned Perdition under a different thread congratulating his on his first Vegas 1k Royal and 1k bonus very shortly after he started. I think he hit a Nickel royal online before, but that doesn't count. I also thanked him for just being himself. Nice, honest, trustworthy and humble guy. He keeps information to himself. Everyone likes him and we even gave him a nickname. No matter what, he has friends for life. Its nice because as he said, he plays at his leisure since he can support himself without this.
Don't forego quality for quantity no matter how much sense the business plan might make :)
Just the other day I meet a kid( he is a musician, I thought he was not to bad. DJ was a bit more critical. Hes probably just jealous) who was down on his luck. He was selling or trying to sell his music CD. I started talking with him and it came out that he desperately needed some money for a variety of things like: a room for a few days. Also so he needed to get more presentable for an interview in a few days.
I had a few things for him, so me and DJ rounded him up the next day and took on the task. Everything went smooth( as Soxfan would say, he was kind of a cool cat) and he was able to earn enough money to get done what he needed.
He called me today and thanked me. He said things were going much better for him now, and he found work. He said, if not for us, he would have probably been sleeping in the street. So perhaps not all AP's or AP is so bad after all.
For the most part you can make your own hours. Obviously somethings come up where you have to be a certain place at a certain time.
This is best suited for someone who needs a little extra cash, preferably someone on a fixed income, retired, collage student, stay at home spouse. If you know someone like this let them know.
Just start out and see how things go from there. It could end up full time or just remain part time and occasional here and there type of thing.
You MUST have transportation and live in LV.
No real need for gambling experience.
PM me and we can talk.
Glad I was put to work by Axel and co. and have made a lot of money and saved money on things like food that I don't have to buy now. Even at the slow periods I was always offered something. It wasn't million dollar plays all the time but I was always paid in cash what was promised regardless of the result and I always respected that.
it is really starting to pick up now and I was looking at the calendar and figuring out what plays to turn down. Sometimes it just gets packed like that, it is really crazy. In fact if you are looking for some holiday cash or more, you should pm Axelwolf directly to see if there is a fit for you.
Even taking most of the summer off(which wasn't too bad, heard it was mild as LV summers go) still made enough to set money aside and invest here and there. Looking forward to seeing how the next year goes.
Quote: PerditionI went through this thread again since it is coming up on my one year anniversary since I moved to Vegas and I remember how this thread pretty much turned things around for me. My plan was to play nickel machines for 12+ hours and maybe get card bonuses. It's funny to think back on that now.
Glad I was put to work by Axel and co. and have made a lot of money and saved money on things like food that I don't have to buy now. Even at the slow periods I was always offered something. It wasn't million dollar plays all the time but I was always paid in cash what was promised regardless of the result and I always respected that.
it is really starting to pick up now and I was looking at the calendar and figuring out what plays to turn down. Sometimes it just gets packed like that, it is really crazy. In fact if you are looking for some holiday cash or more, you should pm Axelwolf directly to see if there is a fit for you.
Even taking most of the summer off(which wasn't too bad, heard it was mild as LV summers go) still made enough to set money aside and invest here and there. Looking forward to seeing how the next year goes.
Good for you man. I'm glad to hear that it's still a viable career...some books I read make it sound like all the best plays are no more and its all doom and gloom now. Find something you love and you'll never work a day in your life.
Let me explain. I was alerted to the fact I didn't get back to someone. I guess they thought I didn't like them or what they had to say. They may have felt spurned.
I SERIOUSLY APOLOGIZE for not getting back to you or ANYONE. It has nothing to do with YOU. Unless I told someone they wouldn't be a good fit or I didn't think this was something for them, ILL BE UPFRONT ABOUT THAT. I'm upfront with the drawbacks and the potential, I even explain you shouldn't count on this as a dependable source of income. Things can change daily. (I going to meet up with him/you Immediately)
If I haven't gotten back to anyone Its just an oversight, It's hard for me to remember everybody and every PM conversation I have had regarding this. Especially if you're a new member. I honesty can't always remember JonnyA1 from Jonny111.
I can't make any decisions unless we meet up. That's the hard part, It's sometimes difficult to sync up, especially since I have been traveling a lot (sometimes suddenly and last minute). I have only seen my Dad a few times in 2 months and he lives less than 20 miles away and he even spends time at casinos I frequently visit saying to myself, "oops just missed him."
Sometimes it becomes a out of site out of mind situation.
Occasionally I'm able to meet up with someone before another because they just happen to catch me at the right place and right time.
So if you are someone I haven't gotten back to after a positive conversation please PM me a reminder and Ill do my best.
I'm still looking for help. Even in other places such as california, Reno Tahoe and other locations.
You must have transportation (not your feet or bus, unless you live next door to the casinos )
Quote: WizardI don't know what Axel has in mind about taxes, but in jackpot-splitting situations I've been in the winner sent the other teammates 1099 forms.
You can 1099 a contractor. But, you cannot control their hours or days of work. The 1099'er has to be in his own business and can not be regulated by the other party. The 1099'er can not be fired. The 1099'er is under no control whatsoever by the person 1099'ing him. The list goes on, companies have abused this and a 1099'er is truly a contractor in his own business and in no way under the control of the company paying him. I have extensive experience with this in my own company with instruction from the accountant and attorney. Also, if you issue that person a W-2 he cannot claim he is a 1099 for other stuff, like a secluded win or two, etc.
Here's a big idea we want people to know, we are not looking for full time people, and cannot promise full time work. Basically you start with meeting Axel and he would have to determine if you are a fit for us, and do small work accordingly to see if you can handle it. I've been working with the guy for 2 years and there is still much to learn, and much I am not involved in. I don't take offense to that since plays come up and if I wasn't a part of it I don't get action.
Inviting him to dinner TM.Quote: ontariodealeraxel, take some advice, make time for your dad.
Everyone is VERY happy to be working with him. With that comes more opportunities and possibilities(it's already been fruitful).
So, I'm looking for more people to help with various AP(if mot you perhaps you know someone.) Sometimes it's a slow, slow process finding the right people in this business. Its not something that should be forced, this isn't like hiring a Walmart cashier.
Please, if you have already PMed me in the pat and I haven't gotten back with you, or moved forward. Don't take it personally (things come up, I get busy, sometimes I just plain forget). There have been occasions where it's taken many months before I finally added someone, someone that I now am very happy that I finally got in contact with them. Maybe your situation has changed.
Sometimes It just takes the right circumstances for all the pieces to come together. There has also been occasions where things just fell into place, and I had someone working within a week.
So please try again and remind me.
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I'm especially interested in some people that live in different states, mostly for part time work. It can be anything from a few times a week scouting(adding some extra cash to your pocket) to actually relocating somewhere full time.
If anyone that's reading this has a job, or is already doing AP stuff, but your interested in helping, please let me know what location you are from. Various opportunities come up that I need help with. This includes long time members, because I don't member where everyone is from.
If you have information to share, or have something, perhaps something you can't really take advantage of, or you yourself need help. (legitimate AP, no baccarat system BS) I'm always interested in listening and making a deal.
I will probably add a list of places I'm looking for some help or even just some scouting opportunities.
PS. You may want to read my first post of this thread.
Quote: AxelWolfI'm bumping this thread because I'm excited to say, we just took on a new full time partner. It's someone that I wanted to join up with us for a while now, unfortunately he had limitations. Look like his limitations(Prison sux, J/K) are mostly gone now(A weight lifted I say. He's probably crying under his covers saying," WTF DID I JUST DO").
Everyone is VERY happy to be working with him. With that comes more opportunities and possibilities(it's already been fruitful).
So, I'm looking for more people to help with various AP(if mot you perhaps you know someone.) Sometimes it's a slow, slow process finding the right people in this business. Its not something that should be forced, this isn't like hiring a Walmart cashier.
Please, if you have already PMed me in the pat and I haven't gotten back with you, or moved forward. Don't take it personally (things come up, I get busy, sometimes I just plain forget). There have been occasions where it's taken many months before I finally added someone, someone that I now am very happy that I finally got in contact with them. Maybe your situation has changed.
Sometimes It just takes the right circumstances for all the pieces to come together. There has also been occasions where things just fell into place, and I had someone working within a week.
So please try again and remind me.
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I'm especially interested in some people that live in different states, mostly for part time work. It can be anything from a few times a week scouting(adding some extra cash to your pocket) to actually relocating somewhere full time.
If anyone that's reading this has a job, or is already doing AP stuff, but your interested in helping, please let me know what location you are from. Various opportunities come up that I need help with. This includes long time members, because I don't member where everyone is from.
If you have information to share, or have something, perhaps something you can't really take advantage of, or you yourself need help. (legitimate AP, no baccarat system BS) I'm always interested in listening and making a deal.
I will probably add a list of places I'm looking for some help or even just some scouting opportunities.
PS. You may want to read my first post of this thread.
Probably have good reason to be excited. Sharp one with a good head on their shoulders, I'm sure it'll work out well for ya.
Quote: TwoFeathersATLIf MGM, or whoever, manages to open in Atlanta, can I claim that territory now?
Isn't all of this essentially another form of selling gambling systems? I can't tell the difference here. Unregulated, wild schemes.
Quote: DoubleOrNothingIsn't all of this essentially another form of selling gambling systems? I can't tell the difference here. Unregulated, wild schemes.
Wait what?
He's also finding stormtroopers (paid workers) who can make it out to where he is, and what their interests are.
The rest, he can tell you himself.
Explain how I'm selling anything, or it's a "wild scheme" ? It's obvious your just trying to stir up s*it.Quote: DoubleOrNothingIsn't all of this essentially another form of selling gambling systems? I can't tell the difference here. Unregulated, wild schemes.
Read the first post of the thread.
I even mentioned in the post you are referring to, to read the first post.
I never ask anyone to put up any money. I never ask them to use their own money(people have offered to initially test something with their own small amount of money for convince, with the underestimating I would cover any losses ASAP) .
People have already played for me, People who I meet on this site. AAMOF, All but 1 person that continually and steadily work with me nowadays, I meet though this site, its been more than 3 years since I started working with people from this site. If my "wild schemes" are still working for multiple people, after multiple years, then I guess I found the holy grail.
Not to mention, I have cleared this thread with the Wizard. I'm fairly positive he knows it's not a betting system, nor am I selling anything but a legitimate opportunity. He's welcome to talk to anyone who I vetted though the site.
I have never profited unless the other person had profited, and no one has lost money doing something with/for me long term(partners may have lost on individual plays, but you rarely win every single time, however a paid worker does) AAMOF I have lost money on plays, where they profited
Almost everything I play as a proven mathematical edge. There may be some rare occasion that it's hard to calculate, perhaps something like a slot machine where you must speculate.
If you don't understand something, perhaps you should ask in a less accusatory fashion.
Quote: DoubleOrNothingIsn't all of this essentially another form of selling gambling systems? I can't tell the difference here. Unregulated, wild schemes.
You might want to update on reading comprehension. Nothing is being sold from what I am reading. I have personally dealt with Axel on several occasions and have never had a problem. Axel is a legitimate AP with the utmost integrity. Although I do not work for him, I would never rule out the possibility. Axel operates with an old school ethic "his word is his bond". It is very unusual to find a person in the AP community that deserves the level of respect that Axel has earned. I'm proud to consider him a friend. Not that my testimony amounts to a hill of beans but put me in the camp of a supporter.
Quote: AxelWolfExplain how I'm selling anything, or it's a "wild scheme" ? It's obvious your just trying to stir up s*it.
Read the first post of the thread.
I even mentioned in the post you are referring to, to read the first post.
I never ask anyone to put up any money. I never ask them to use their own money(people have offered to initially test something with their own small amount of money for convince, with the underestimating I would cover any losses ASAP) .
People have already played for me, People who I meet on this site. AAMOF, All but 1 person that continually and steadily work with me nowadays, I meet though this site, its been more than 3 years since I started working with people from this site. If my "wild schemes" are still working for multiple people, after multiple years, then I guess I found the holy grail.
Not to mention, I have cleared this thread with the Wizard. I'm fairly positive he knows it's not a betting system, nor am I selling anything but a legitimate opportunity. He's welcome to talk to anyone who I vetted though the site.
I have never profited unless the other person had profited, and no one has lost money doing something with/for me long term(partners may have lost on individual plays, but you rarely win every single time, however a paid worker does) AAMOF I have lost money on plays, where they profited
Almost everything I play as a proven mathematical edge. There may be some rare occasion that it's hard to calculate, perhaps something like a slot machine where you must speculate.
If you don't understand something, perhaps you should ask in a less accusatory fashion.
Axel, I don't know where DorN was coming from with this, but I will certainly vouch for you 100%. It's all good.
FWIW, I've met Axel, his team, done some minor AP'ing with them. He doesn't do anything strange or illegal, he's a great guy, and he absolutely does exactly what he says he's going to do.
Quote: zoobrewTo be fair to DorN, you need to be very leery of "easy" money pitches on the internet. Their flaw was not reading the whole post, as advised, and then if still interested asking probing questions.
I get what you're saying in general; I just removed 2 more spammers an hour ago.
However, Axel's been on here for several years, has thousands of posts, and started the thread straight-up with what he wanted. Even if you just read his latest post, you can look at his profile on that update and know he's not spamming the forum. And even in that post, he's not selling anything; he's recruiting.
I have to put it back on DorN for not reading/understanding what it was before he posted. It's not a suspend-able offense, but it was an unmerited accusation.
the 7 cent spread heading back from Canadian Pesos to American dollars is one negative I see
http://www.tdcanadatrust.com/products-services/banking/foreign-currency-services/rates.jsp
It's YOUR fault for working too hard in the oil patch! :PQuote: coilmanJust wondering if north of the boarder comes into play with exchange rates hitting almost 30% on the US dollar and winnings being TAX FREE ?
the 7 cent spread heading back from Canadian Pesos to American dollars is one negative I see
http://www.tdcanadatrust.com/products-services/banking/foreign-currency-services/rates.jsp
Seven points is a large spread. If I remember correctly CAESARS WINDSOR is only about a 4 or 5 point spread. Is it still like that?
Quote: teddysIt's YOUR fault for working too hard in the oil patch! :P
Seven points is a large spread. If I remember correctly CAESARS WINDSOR is only about a 4 or 5 point spread. Is it still like that?
Next time in I will check what the difference is.... the big spread might be partly because of the speed at which the dollar seems to be dropping lately
Just think how low it will go when IRAN's oil taps get turned back on
I'm sick. I went big into my company's stock, and a bunch of other energy producers. I hate selling at a loss but it's probably time to get out.Quote: coilmanNext time in I will check what the difference is.... the big spread might be partly because of the speed at which the dollar seems to be dropping lately
Just think how low it will go when IRAN's oil taps get turned back on
Teddy I sent you a PM, enough said about that. Thanks for your interest.Quote: teddysI'm sick. I went big into my company's stock, and a bunch of other energy producers. I hate selling at a loss but it's probably time to get out.
Max thanks for your kind supportive words. You yourself have been a man of your word and 100% reliable.Quote: MaxPenYou might want to update on reading comprehension. Nothing is being sold from what I am reading. I have personally dealt with Axel on several occasions and have never had a problem. Axel is a legitimate AP with the utmost integrity. Although I do not work for him, I would never rule out the possibility. Axel operates with an old school ethic "his word is his bond". It is very unusual to find a person in the AP community that deserves the level of respect that Axel has earned. I'm proud to consider him a friend. Not that my testimony amounts to a hill of beans but put me in the camp of a supporter.
For the record, I defiantly conciser you a friend, and I look forward to working with you more in the future.
I know you are very intelligent, and know your BJ well.
I have 100% confidante you have what it takes to AP anything that comes along with very little guidance, and you have the ability think outside the box, problem solve, etc etc. (just stay away from side bets with me)
You may be new to everything outside of BJ , but you possess everything I would be looking or in a partner, including management skills.
I know you have a separate career that poses some limitations and limited freedom.
Well I have changed the requirements from Honest local to Honest local AND non local. That's why i asked for people to let me know what casinos they can get to easily. I had people contact me who were 4 hrs away from specific casinos. That's just not cost and time effective. So Let's get real.Quote: rainmanAxel I was gonna sign up but I can't meet the requirements of the first sentence of your original post, and I'm still holding out for a 401k.
My 401k is better than others. You can eventually invest your money in something with a better percentage than any 401k will give you. Probably a much higher return and less risky well. . No penalty for early cash out either. If you know to much, I can't guarantee your safety once you want out.
Bab's thanks for helping set Mr.DBLDWN str8.Quote: beachbumbabsI'll give you Florida, even run up to the Gulf Coast (Mississippi) if you like.
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I will get back t you on FL and your situation on soon. I commented but I accidentally refreshed the page or something happened i couldn't retrieve the draft.
Quote: AxelWolfI had people contact me who were 4 hrs away from specific casinos. That's just not cost and time effective. So Let's get real.
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Translation: You're not going to make crap doing
this, don't apply unless you live next door to a casino
and have a lot of time on your hands. This is kinda
sorta AP, but not really.
Quote: EvenBobTranslation: You're not going to make crap doing
this, don't apply unless you live next door to a casino
and have a lot of time on your hands. This is kinda
sorta AP, but not really.
EB, I like (love?) most every thing you type here.
But you make mistakes (rarely) just like the rest of us mortals.
I think you just made one, I could be wrong, again.
Quote: TwoFeathersATLI could be wrong, again.
You're wrong. Again. Axel knows exactly
what I'm talking about.
I guess I can address you and BBB at the same time. First off its been years since I have been to Florida. I have very little knowledge whats going on there. If someone knows something worthwhile or BBB can do some research and investigate possible opportunities, I would certainly look into it.Quote: EvenBobTranslation: You're not going to make crap doing
this, don't apply unless you live next door to a casino
and have a lot of time on your hands. This is kinda
sorta AP, but not really.
I have talked with BBB in the past,unfortunately she only showed her interest as a really good opportunity ended after about 7 months. I only wish she I had known she was interested at the beginning of that play. I have no doubt she would have been great for that and done well. I should have been more aggressive with that play, but I never thought it would last for so long. it was approximately 104%.
Yes, its way better if you are near casinos. Living in LV is not my first choice i really dislike the heat, sand and concrete city. But this was/is the best location for this business, at least for me.
But as far as having lots of time on your hands, that's not really true. Some people have full time jobs and do this on the side. Hell that's how most people get into this full time. They start APing on the side and realize they are doing much better with AP than their regular job. The job just getting in the way of opportunities.
Aside from location, BBB is a special case. She is very educated, smart, well traveled. She is a game inventor among other things.
I have a feeling she is well off financially. I think her time is valuable, so coming to Vegas and staring at the bottom, at this time wouldn't be smart for her. Especially since their are no guarantees in this business. Things change daily, it can be feast or famine.
If something more solid comes up, something I feel will be around for a while. I will certainly contact her and see what we can come up with.
Unfortunately There are things I can't involve new people in so that leaves some limitations for new people.
Quote: AxelWolfEspecially since their are no guarantees in this business. Things change daily, it can be feast or famine. .
Exactly my point.
Quote: EvenBobExactly my point.
You have a really weak point.
Quote: RSYou have a really weak point.
You have a really weak avatar.
Well, that's the beauty of it. Thank god it's like that, because If it were 100% dependable and you knew exactly what you could count on, more people would be doing it. Every hustler, relative, friend or knowledgeable person would end up being competition. I can think of countless guys from pre 2005 who were in the game doing well, but are now delivering Chinese food.Quote: EvenBobExactly my point.
There was a small nasty Asian hustler group from back in the day who kept causing problems (at one point it got psychical ). Happy to say, one guy is delivering Chinese food now.
If you don't save and watch your BR, you'll be F***ed when good opportunities come up.
Quote: AxelWolf
If you don't save and watch your BR, you'll be F***ed when good opportunities come up.
It's hustling more than it is AP.
Hustling: Making money any way you can when opportunities present themselves.
Hustling is undependable and it's a young
mans game. It gets tiring not knowing
where your next money is coming from.
At least you get a steady income when
you deliver Chinese food.
