as per ace of spades suggestion- the revel jumped the shark

revel is really completly backwards and i could not agree with ace of spades more

my average theo at the revel when iw as playing there was 1500 per trip

however my offer of a suite each weekend for the month of july was cancelled after the second week at the check in counter

however my gf who played there a total of once lost 40 dollars and earned an estimate 6 dollar theo just received an offer of two free nights on thanksgiving weekend

way to go revel , market to the right people is anything this casino does right?

Quote: strictlyAP

revel is really completly backwards and i could not agree with ace of spades more

my average theo at the revel when iw as playing there was 1500 per trip

however my offer of a suite each weekend for the month of july was cancelled after the second week at the check in counter

however my gf who played there a total of once lost 40 dollars and earned an estimate 6 dollar theo just received an offer of two free nights on thanksgiving weekend

way to go revel , market to the right people is anything this casino does right?

When Strictly PM'd me about this I had to ask him if he would post this for all to see.
Apparently, it is not only me experience with the new kid on the block - but others as well.
I just spoke to a casino host at Borgata who, despite my not having played there, is willing
to give me two full weekends comped based on my level of play at Revel. From there, it is
the same story of comps based on play but at least Borgata is doing the right thing.

Thank you Strictly for posting this!

Quote: aceofspades

From there, it is
the same story of comps based on play but at least Borgata is doing the right thing.

But you've got to have a high degree of confidence in the ability of the folks at the Borgata to be able to add all of your small sessions together and realize that it's a lot of play.

Quote: rdw4potus

But you've got to have a high degree of confidence in the ability of the folks at the Borgata to be able to add all of your small sessions together and realize that it's a lot of play.

Can they do a worse job than Revel?

Just to jump on the Revel sucks bandwagon...I too played there 4 or 5 times, shortly after they opened...never less than 1K of buy in, often more...for several hours at a minimum of green chip level, often black. I got exactly one offer from them for a mid-week room one night comp. Bookable only online...when I tried to book it, the website didn't recognize the offer code provided....so I called the hotel. They said "if it's only available online, you have to book it online"...fine I said but it doesn't work..."nothing they can do" they said. So I stayed at the Taj and lost a couple of grand. The last time I was there I had been experiencing postive variance at a CET property, and decided to try and run it up some at the Revel... bought in for a farily large amount and was spreading $50 to $200 per hand. The sup. asked if I had a host?...No, I replied...would you like one?...sure I said. I gave her my business card with my email and phone # on it. Said feel free to call me or email anytime. Also they had my player card on file. Did anyone ever contact me? You guessed it... no! At a time when business in AC is so bad and their new billion dollar property is struggling, why are they turning away customers? Only the Bankruptcy judge will ever know.

It's a shame too because it's a beautiful property with a lot going for it...but they need to get their act together in a hurry.

I almost wonder if they're trying to go bankrupt. Lose all the construction debt, sell to some friendly entity, and then move on to actually trying to make money. Right now, it's so bad that it's easier to come to the conclusion that they're actively trying to lose money than it is to conclude that they think they're running a good business.

hard to compete, in my opinion the layout at the revel is awful, the escalators or terrible, and the poker room is an absolute abomination. compare that to the borgata, (a) easier access- just hop on the ramp instead of driving through the ghetto for the revel- world class poker room and good food selection, not to mention a decentfood court down staris with fatburger and tony lukes, games are good, black and titaniumlevel lounges are great , i just cant beleive how fast the revel will fail

Quote: rdw4potus

I almost wonder if they're trying to go bankrupt. Lose all the construction debt, sell to some friendly entity, and then move on to actually trying to make money. Right now, it's so bad that it's easier to come to the conclusion that they're actively trying to lose money than it is to conclude that they think they're running a good business.

I read this and thought.....holy sh*t he's right. It actually makes sense on some level for them to do that. Go to bankruptcy court, get your debts written off as much as possible, and then start trying to make money on the back end. Genuis!! It explains everything.

Quote: vendman1

I read this and thought.....holy sh*t he's right. It actually makes sense on some level for them to do that. Go to bankruptcy court, get your debts written off as much as possible, and then start trying to make money on the back end. Genuis!! It explains everything.

Seriously. It's like watching a bad NBA team try to lose the last 20 games of the season - without being too obvious, of course - in order to improve their standing in the draft lottery.

could get hit with bankruptcy fraud though, i really am in shock with the mass exodus but it does lead me to beleive that before it iopened they new they were in trouble from what people where telling me the way they hired staff and told them they would have to reapply to keep their jobs after 3 years

Quote: rdw4potus

I almost wonder if they're trying to go bankrupt. Lose all the construction debt, sell to some friendly entity, and then move on to actually trying to make money. Right now, it's so bad that it's easier to come to the conclusion that they're actively trying to lose money than it is to conclude that they think they're running a good business.

All good Bankruptcy lawyers advise a significant pre-filing strategy period. You can bet they are midstream with that effort right now.. Just like J.C. Penney.

Hmmm...political leverage scenario/conspiracy theory: go bankrupt, let MGM be the highest/only bidder. Watch NJ squirm and relent to granting MGM a license rather than having a giant empty resort in AC.

Quote: rdw4potus

I almost wonder if they're trying to go bankrupt. Lose all the construction debt, sell to some friendly entity, and then move on to actually trying to make money. Right now, it's so bad that it's easier to come to the conclusion that they're actively trying to lose money than it is to conclude that they think they're running a good business.

Not sure this theory survives Occam's Razor when compared to general employee apathy or incompetence.

Just received an email inviting me for 2 free nights over Thanksgiving weekend!!!
I called my host and was told that I could book the rooms because I got the offer.
I could not book rooms any longer based on my play!!! LOL
Way to go in the loyalty department.

In other news, I emailed Borgata and someone emailed me back within 12 hours,
then, within a few hours after that, a casino host emailed me...two emails later,
I have been invited for any 2 upcoming weekends I want - and they will see my
play and I will assess their treatment of me. Very classy.

Quote: strictlyAP

the escalators or terrible

The escalators scare the shit out of me.

Funny, I 've heard lots of people complain about the escalators....I think they're cool...to each his own. They're high as hell though.

PK I have to ask, why s anyone playing at Revel and what are (we're) you expecting that any other casino in AC such as Caesars or Borgata could or would have not given you?

If you say non smoking, I understand. Otherwise, why did you not listen to Kevin when he stated gambling was not a priority?

I would say you got what you deserved.

As for the shark....you cannot jump it when you never had it.

Quote: Boz

PK I have to ask, why s anyone playing at Revel and what are (we're) you expecting that any other casino in AC such as Caesars or Borgata could or would have not given you?

If you say non smoking, I understand. Otherwise, why did you not listen to Kevin when he stated gambling was not a priority?

I would say you got what you deserved.

What is "PK"?

Quote: aceofspades

What is "PK"?

Im guessing a mystype.

More rumours of impending layoffs ( once the 1 year amnesty for full time employees is over from the State of NJ )

Also, heard through the grapevine that many full time employees are remaining "full time" but hours are getting severely decreased

their best hosts jumped ship a while ago, and most of marketing

Got a curious Revel story also...


Went there back in August to do the Match Your Tier promo and got their Second level card with $25 free slot dollars. Made $14 on the free play and went to Blackjack. Played for 2 hours, made a modest profit and decided to leave as the Dealer merry go round began to occur(changing dealers 3 or 4 times in less than a half hour) Just annoys me, and when I start seeing profit disappear also at the same time, I feel it's time for a break!

Since then, 0 offers from Revel for matchplay, rooms or slot dollars. Not even mailers notifying of concerts like Aerosmith, Eagles, etc.

My father, who has never been to Revel once, received an offer in the mail for a Comp room Sun-Thurs. and $100 free Slot play. He strictly plays tables and only plays the slots when they give him free coupons at CET or via Bus. Needless to say, he went there, redeemed both and had a good night of winning. Plus he hasn't gone back since!

But I asked, did they call you or ask your information first? He said "Nope, they just sent the offer in the mail one day."

So I guess they bought his info from a nearby casino marketing list?

I could understand Golden Nugget AC having the Trump Marina marketing list and doing this, but what is Revel's angle here?

I'm leaning towards some of your beliefs that they are luring in lower level/infrequent players by over doing the promo offers. Strange policies indeed!