Whats the Best Smartphone?
June 5th, 2012 at 3:44:13 PM
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I'm looking to get a Smartphone. Which has the best interface?
Best reception? Best monthly plan. I've heard to stay away
from Blackberry, they haven't kept up with the technology and
their keyboard is too small. I want something that has reception
everywhere and my fat fingers can access the internet without
making a lot of errors.
Best reception? Best monthly plan. I've heard to stay away
from Blackberry, they haven't kept up with the technology and
their keyboard is too small. I want something that has reception
everywhere and my fat fingers can access the internet without
making a lot of errors.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
June 5th, 2012 at 3:50:29 PM
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I have an HTC EVO 4G Supersonic with Sprint that I have rooted. Running Andriod 2.3 Gingerbread. Rooted so I can tether without the $30 fee from Sprint. I am all over the country, and have fewer dropped calls with Sprint than with my Verizon phone that I have for work. My internet connection is also pretty good no matter where I stop for the night, and if I happen to be in a 4G area, is like my service at the house. 4 phones on my plan, with unlimited talk, text, and web.
FWIW, I would recommend Sprint with an Android device. I do not like IPhones personally.
If you do not want a contract, and don't mind paying upfront for the phone, Straight Talk at WalMart is a great deal. $45 for unlimited everything per month. No contracts, and you own the phone.
FWIW, I would recommend Sprint with an Android device. I do not like IPhones personally.
If you do not want a contract, and don't mind paying upfront for the phone, Straight Talk at WalMart is a great deal. $45 for unlimited everything per month. No contracts, and you own the phone.
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June 5th, 2012 at 3:50:30 PM
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My dad's fat fingers coped well the the Samsung Galaxy S2 (Android).
I'd point people to the iPhone if they want a simple life.
But best bet is to handle a bunch in the shop. Form factor is key with a smart phone. If they don't let you play with it and type on it and browse, go elsewhere. Have an idea of what sites you are likely to use. If you can find one you like with a slide keyboard, I'd go that way. The touch screen phones aren't as easy to type on. You've possibly seen some of my crappy typing using my phone. If you are doing simple browsing, getting info and not much typing, then it's less important.
Also check what it's like to make a phone call on... one or two of the early Android's were shitty for making a call on.
For price/coverage I haven't a clue about the US.
I'd point people to the iPhone if they want a simple life.
But best bet is to handle a bunch in the shop. Form factor is key with a smart phone. If they don't let you play with it and type on it and browse, go elsewhere. Have an idea of what sites you are likely to use. If you can find one you like with a slide keyboard, I'd go that way. The touch screen phones aren't as easy to type on. You've possibly seen some of my crappy typing using my phone. If you are doing simple browsing, getting info and not much typing, then it's less important.
Also check what it's like to make a phone call on... one or two of the early Android's were shitty for making a call on.
For price/coverage I haven't a clue about the US.
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June 5th, 2012 at 3:59:54 PM
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I am anxiously waiting for the release of the Galaxy III within the next few weeks. It is specking out as possibly being the best phone on the market. I have had the Galaxy I for almost two years and haven't not been disappointed.
If you want to use an iphone and can live with ATT coverage, then I would suggest buying it outright for $650. Then connecting through Straight Talk (they use ATT's network), doing so will save about $500 over the two year life of an ATT contract without having to have a contract.
If you want to use an iphone and can live with ATT coverage, then I would suggest buying it outright for $650. Then connecting through Straight Talk (they use ATT's network), doing so will save about $500 over the two year life of an ATT contract without having to have a contract.
June 5th, 2012 at 4:11:18 PM
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Quote: avargov
If you do not want a contract, and don't mind paying upfront for the phone, Straight Talk at WalMart is a great deal. $45 for unlimited everything per month. No contracts, and you own the phone.
I just looked at Straight Talk and their prices are almost
too good to be true. 1000min for $30? But is the service
good. My brother is a truck driver and he swears by Sprint,
he ditched Verizon for Sprint.
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June 5th, 2012 at 4:14:33 PM
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Quote: EvenBobI just looked at Straight Talk and their prices are almost
too good to be true. 1000min for $30? But is the service
good. My brother is a truck driver and he swears by Sprint,
he ditched Verizon for Sprint.
Not only $30 for 1000, but $45 for unlimited everything. The catch is you gotta buy the phone. But a $200 phone over two years is $8.33 per month. With the service that would be $53.33. Still about 50-60 less than the unlimited everything plan for one phone with Sprint.
It's walmart man!!!! They gots the best deals on errythin'!
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June 5th, 2012 at 4:19:15 PM
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I have Verizon Pantech. Service is a little sketchy, but I live someplace that hillbillies can look down on. I'm talking way out in the woods. In town, I have no problems whatsoever. AND I got the phone for $30 (think it's $300ish without deals) AND I tipped my canoe into a swamp with it in my pocket and it was "on". Took the battery out, put it on the defroster in the truck with the fan on "high" the whole way home, and a few hours later it was right as rain. It smells a little funny, but touch screen just fine, battery still takes a charge, it's good to go. The girl who tipped the canoe had an iPhone, and is now out several hundred dollars.
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June 5th, 2012 at 4:43:22 PM
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Quote: FaceThe girl who tipped the canoe had an iPhone, and is now out several hundred dollars.
I've never owned anything made by Apple and got no
plans. Most of the people I know who gush about
Apple all the time I have no use for, they seem arrogant
and full of themselves.
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June 5th, 2012 at 5:32:08 PM
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Quote: EvenBobI'm looking to get a Smartphone. Which has the best interface?
Best reception? Best monthly plan. I've heard to stay away
from Blackberry, they haven't kept up with the technology and
their keyboard is too small. I want something that has reception
everywhere and my fat fingers can access the internet without
making a lot of errors.
I used to have Blackberries, and the one thing I loved about them is the keyboard. I never had a problem with it being too small because of the way the keys are designed with a raised edge. They are very slow and the Internet capabilities are horrible. Now, I have an IPhone, but I cannot stand typing on the touch screen. It just plain sucks.
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June 5th, 2012 at 5:40:51 PM
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Quote: CrystalMathI used to have Blackberries, and the one thing I loved about them is the keyboard. I never had a problem with it being too small because of the way the keys are designed with a raised edge. They are very slow and the Internet capabilities are horrible. Now, I have an IPhone, but I cannot stand typing on the touch screen. It just plain sucks.
I suffer from the same dilemma. I have a blackberry and I love the keyboard and ease of use, but the internet sucks on it. I would get an iphone but i need a keyboard, I find it impossible to type on those touch screen phones and I have to send a lot of business emails on my phone.
June 5th, 2012 at 6:30:03 PM
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Quote: EvenBobMost of the people I know who gush about
Apple all the time I have no use for, they seem arrogant
and full of themselves.
I'm not sure just how offended I should be. :-)
I have used Mac computers exclusively since 1988, but I have never had an iPod, an iPad, or an iPhone. If I ever decide a tablet is really of interest to me, I'll look at the iPad, but I have no interest in the iPhone.
I use a Samsung Epic 4G on Sprint. This is an Android phone that I think this is the same device known elsewhere as the Galaxy S (with some number following.) I have been reasonably pleased after getting along the learning curve for transitioning from my Palm Treo a year ago. I think most of my complaints are really about shortcomings or inconsistency from Google. The phone works fine; it has a reasonably big touch screen specked at 4" and 480x800 pixels. It has a CDMA radio to be compatible with the Sprint network, but it may be available with a configuration for others. Note in case you travel internationally: the CDMA phones are really just for US, Canada, and a very few other places.
It works fair for internet browsing -- much better than my Treo and good enough that I don't carry a computer when traveling. I might take one if I was conducting business. The blend of Google.com and Android services is handy so long as everything is working. Sometimes they don't. My wife has an identical phone, and it is handy to keep our calendars in sync, inputting the data either on one of the phones or on the Google site.
There are gobs of Android apps that are either free or cheap, and like the iPhone apps, I wouldn't waste my time with most of them. I did load several that I find very useful.
I don't think I ever saw anything that made a Blackberry look the least bit attractive.
June 5th, 2012 at 7:43:47 PM
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Quote: EvenBobI just looked at Straight Talk and their prices are almost
too good to be true. 1000min for $30?
That's not very good at all.
T-Mobile has 1500 for $30, and it has way better network.
Straight talk "Unlimited Everything" for $45 isn't really as "Unlimited" as it sounds. They will terminate your account if you exceed 100Mb per day data usage or 2G per month. The contract specificaly forbids tethering and streaming media on the phone.
T-Mobile's unlimited is $50, but it really is "Unlimited" (they'll slow you down to 2g after 2G per month, but that's it).
If you like iPhone, go with ATT or Spring. The networks are both good, Sprint's quality is a little better, but I'd personally prefer ATT for portability (hate CDMA), especially if you are going to pay for the phone.
T-Mobile network is slightly inferior to ATT, but the prices are significantly better (again, especially if you are going to pay for the phone).
For Android phones, look at either HTC Amaze or Samsung Galaxy S2. I prefer the former for a slicker look, and better screen, the latter is a bit bigger, and also pretty good. If you weren't kidding about fat fingers, look at HTC MyTouch sliders. They have sliding "real" keyboars. Some people love that.
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June 5th, 2012 at 7:44:07 PM
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Quote: DocIt has a CDMA radio to be compatible with the Sprint network, but it may be available with a configuration for others. Note in case you travel internationally: the CDMA phones are really just for US, Canada, and a very few other places.
An update on CDMA and Canada. Telus and Bell the companies that used CDMA are in the middle of transitioning to GSM. It will probably be only a few years when it will no longer be available. All the new towers and upgrades for about 18 months have been GSM. They don't even bother with CDMA on any of them. I have poorer coverage on my CDMA phone in Vancouver than I did when it was new less than 3 years ago.
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June 5th, 2012 at 8:02:53 PM
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Quote: weaselmanThat's not very good at all.
T-Mobile has 1500 for $30, and it has way better network.
If you like iPhone, go with ATT or Spring. The networks are both good
Straight talk really does suck, but it also uses ATT's network.......
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June 5th, 2012 at 8:20:41 PM
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Quote: weaselmanThat's not very good at all.
T-Mobile has 1500 for $30, and it has way better network.
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Too bad T-Mobile Sucks
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June 5th, 2012 at 8:24:03 PM
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I've got a Samsung Epic 4G Touch (Galaxy S2) from Sprint. My wife has the same and we pay $130 a month for the two with unlimited everything plan for up to 6GB usage. (That's with a 20% discount through my employer.) We were first time smart phone buyers when we got these last Christmas. Other than a normal learning curve, haven't had many problems.
Positives:
Love the screen/picture quality. Vibrant colors and easy to personalize your phone. Generally get good 4G coverage around St. Louis too. The app market is decent with a huge selection. I've only paid for 1 or 2 apps so far, everything else was free. Call reception is good, as is the speakerphone.
Negatives:
Some game apps really eat up the power. 8.0 Megapixel camera is ok but not great. (Maybe I need to find a good camera app?) Touch screen too sensitive at times - I've unintentionally butt dialed several people, even when the screen should be off!
Positives:
Love the screen/picture quality. Vibrant colors and easy to personalize your phone. Generally get good 4G coverage around St. Louis too. The app market is decent with a huge selection. I've only paid for 1 or 2 apps so far, everything else was free. Call reception is good, as is the speakerphone.
Negatives:
Some game apps really eat up the power. 8.0 Megapixel camera is ok but not great. (Maybe I need to find a good camera app?) Touch screen too sensitive at times - I've unintentionally butt dialed several people, even when the screen should be off!
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June 5th, 2012 at 9:27:24 PM
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Just wanted to say that my Rezound is pretty damn nice. Huge screen, in all honesty that's 90% of it for me. Depending on your hand size it might be too big though - I have short stubby fingers so the only issue would be with a petite woman or someone with low dexterity.
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June 5th, 2012 at 10:23:18 PM
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Quote: EvenBobI want something that has reception
everywhere and my fat fingers can access the internet without
making a lot of errors.
You might want to look into a QWERTY slider. Much less of a PITA to type on. Unfortunately your choice will be limited, most sliders run Windows Phone or Mobile rather than Android.
Alternately HTC One X has a large screen and all the tech gizmos you might want.
I used to chase the latest in tech, but TBH lately I no longer see any payoff, it's not like I play benchmarking on my phone or take part in squinting competitions.
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June 5th, 2012 at 11:03:54 PM
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Quote: P90You might want to look into a QWERTY slider. Much less of a PITA to type on.
Like this? It looks awkward, and heavy. But its easier to type on?
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June 5th, 2012 at 11:16:09 PM
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Learn something new every day. I had no idea Android was an
operating platform for mobile devices owned by Google and has 60% of the
market share worldwide. I thought it was just a Motorola phone.
Is it the best operating system for Smartphones, then?
operating platform for mobile devices owned by Google and has 60% of the
market share worldwide. I thought it was just a Motorola phone.
Is it the best operating system for Smartphones, then?
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June 5th, 2012 at 11:31:50 PM
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More along the lines of this:
This is Touch Pro 2, best in class, unfortunately it's old.
The new one uses Windows Phone 7: http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-7-pro/#overview
And aside from being much more comfortable, a physical keyboard doesn't take up screen space.
There's a number of new ones like Samsung Captivate Glide.
Out of cheap models, Samsung Galaxy Appeal. It runs Android 2.3, has a smallish (but not this tiny) screen, going to sell real cheap. Coming out early this month.
However non-HTC keyboards are usually noticeably worse than HTC ones. (And HTC uses the smallest screen bezels, which helps keep screen size up and phone size down, too). Samsung isn't too far behind, they tend to be less tactile, but still usable blind. Some others are good too. Layouts with offset rows (like on PC keyboards) are superior to straight rows and columns every time. Things might change with new models, it's worth trying them out.
Anything lacking space between the keys requires hunt-and-peck, so it only sits about halfway between the HTC Pro 2 keyboard and a good (4.3"-4.7") touchscreen one.
Android vs. Windows Phone is an open question. But Android is immensely more popular. It's Linux based, partially open source, has lots of apps and will keep getting more. Windows Phone is much less developed.
This is Touch Pro 2, best in class, unfortunately it's old.
The new one uses Windows Phone 7: http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-7-pro/#overview
And aside from being much more comfortable, a physical keyboard doesn't take up screen space.
There's a number of new ones like Samsung Captivate Glide.
Out of cheap models, Samsung Galaxy Appeal. It runs Android 2.3, has a smallish (but not this tiny) screen, going to sell real cheap. Coming out early this month.
However non-HTC keyboards are usually noticeably worse than HTC ones. (And HTC uses the smallest screen bezels, which helps keep screen size up and phone size down, too). Samsung isn't too far behind, they tend to be less tactile, but still usable blind. Some others are good too. Layouts with offset rows (like on PC keyboards) are superior to straight rows and columns every time. Things might change with new models, it's worth trying them out.
Anything lacking space between the keys requires hunt-and-peck, so it only sits about halfway between the HTC Pro 2 keyboard and a good (4.3"-4.7") touchscreen one.
Android vs. Windows Phone is an open question. But Android is immensely more popular. It's Linux based, partially open source, has lots of apps and will keep getting more. Windows Phone is much less developed.
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June 6th, 2012 at 12:06:38 AM
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Quote: P90
Out of cheap models, Samsung Galaxy Appeal. It runs Android 2.3,
This is the Appeal, went on sale today, $150.
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June 6th, 2012 at 12:35:59 AM
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Yeah, today's the day.
However this one is fairly low-end, only a 3.2", 480x320 screen.
Captivate Glide has 4" and 800x480 (which is the highest resolution one would reasonably need in a phone, more is just showing off), but it has a flat keyboard, the worst kind after screen only.
I haven't seen the Appeal in person, it's new, but its keyboard looks like it's better. It all depends on how far the keys are raised and how tactile they are. If they learn from their past mistakes, it should work.
Mytouch Slide, the HTC version, has a good keyboard, but it's T-mobile exclusive. It's sad that as QWERTY phone market is picking up, HTC (who always made the best phone keyboards) is leaving it, but that's how it goes.
Their remaining sliders include HTC Arrive (Sprint) and HTC Merge (USC). The latter runs Android 2.2 and might be worth looking at, with a 3.8" screen. The hardware is pretty basic, however, and the keyboard isn't too good.
However this one is fairly low-end, only a 3.2", 480x320 screen.
Captivate Glide has 4" and 800x480 (which is the highest resolution one would reasonably need in a phone, more is just showing off), but it has a flat keyboard, the worst kind after screen only.
I haven't seen the Appeal in person, it's new, but its keyboard looks like it's better. It all depends on how far the keys are raised and how tactile they are. If they learn from their past mistakes, it should work.
Mytouch Slide, the HTC version, has a good keyboard, but it's T-mobile exclusive. It's sad that as QWERTY phone market is picking up, HTC (who always made the best phone keyboards) is leaving it, but that's how it goes.
Their remaining sliders include HTC Arrive (Sprint) and HTC Merge (USC). The latter runs Android 2.2 and might be worth looking at, with a 3.8" screen. The hardware is pretty basic, however, and the keyboard isn't too good.
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June 6th, 2012 at 4:58:30 AM
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I like my iPhone. It integrates well with my computer.
Then again, the iPhone is the only smartphone I ever had, so I really have no basis for comparison.
Then again, the iPhone is the only smartphone I ever had, so I really have no basis for comparison.
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June 6th, 2012 at 5:49:54 AM
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IPhone's pretty good for one's first smartphone. It featured the first convenient all-touch interface, coming before modern Android and Windows Phone.
As for more than that... Carmakers don't just make one model, computer makers don't just make one PC, restaurants don't just serve one dish in one flavor. There are objective reasons for phones to differ, starting with size: jeans pockets, cargo pants, belt holsters, handbags, briefcases all have different capacity and different optimal shapes. Some people type a lot, others don't, hand sizes differ, a phone that's modest sized for a 6' man can make a 5' woman look silly.
There is a small segment of people for whom the iphone is just right and a much larger segment of people who just make do with it for one reason or another. That said, it's probably the easiest to use, but Sense is very close.
As for more than that... Carmakers don't just make one model, computer makers don't just make one PC, restaurants don't just serve one dish in one flavor. There are objective reasons for phones to differ, starting with size: jeans pockets, cargo pants, belt holsters, handbags, briefcases all have different capacity and different optimal shapes. Some people type a lot, others don't, hand sizes differ, a phone that's modest sized for a 6' man can make a 5' woman look silly.
There is a small segment of people for whom the iphone is just right and a much larger segment of people who just make do with it for one reason or another. That said, it's probably the easiest to use, but Sense is very close.
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June 6th, 2012 at 6:07:00 AM
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Android is upto version 4.0. I would not get a phone running 2.x.
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June 6th, 2012 at 6:24:56 AM
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Do you know the differences between the versions of Android? I do not, but my impression is that much of the difference is to take advantage of different features of devices, for example, a different version of Android for pad/tablets vs. phones. Android 2.3 is still a current version and continues to be updated.
As for phones that have slider keyboards, the Samsung Epic 4G (aka Galaxy S) that several of us have noted we use on Sprint has such a keyboard. You can also use a keyboard on the touchscreen if you prefer that. Here is an image with the keyboard out.
I find this phone to be a fine size to use, and I carry it in a belt holster. It fits fine in a shirt or jacket pocket, but I think it would be a bit bulky in pants pockets. I wouldn't even consider it for a hip pocket unless you like the idea of buying replacement screens regularly.
As for phones that have slider keyboards, the Samsung Epic 4G (aka Galaxy S) that several of us have noted we use on Sprint has such a keyboard. You can also use a keyboard on the touchscreen if you prefer that. Here is an image with the keyboard out.
I find this phone to be a fine size to use, and I carry it in a belt holster. It fits fine in a shirt or jacket pocket, but I think it would be a bit bulky in pants pockets. I wouldn't even consider it for a hip pocket unless you like the idea of buying replacement screens regularly.
June 6th, 2012 at 6:54:22 AM
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Quote: thecesspitAndroid is upto version 4.0. I would not get a phone running 2.x.
But, but...they'll upgrade me in only 3 years, right?
Still waiting for the OTA upgrade that was "two weeks away" when I bought my RAZR MAXX in February...
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June 6th, 2012 at 7:09:10 AM
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Quote: EvenBobI've never owned anything made by Apple and got no
plans. Most of the people I know who gush about
Apple all the time I have no use for, they seem arrogant
and full of themselves.
But you don't want to go all reverse for no good reason, either. Your first requirement that had to do with the phone was "interface". iPhone's is the best.
Reception is carrier and location based. Generally it's Verizon, but not for everyone.
Some of the latest Android smartphones are great little handheld computers, not-so-great phones. For me, I'll take a slower computer in my phone for better call reception and quality.
I have an Android phone, an HTC Thunderbolt that is coming up on 2 years old. One of the BAD things about Android phones (and I love this phone) is that updates are hit and miss, in more ways than one. Once your phone isn't a current model, FORGET IT. You aren't getting that latest-and-greatest software update that COULD have been developed for your hardware. And if you DO get it, there's a 50-50 chance it will introduce new bugs that will cripple your phone. And, even if your Android phone IS a current model, there is a good chance an update will introduce bugs. The Thunderbolt updates from last year caused the phone to randomly reboot; I would be in the middle of an important call, and my phone would shut down. The only solution was to go to the Verizon store and exchange it for one that hadn't been updated yet.
Also, Android phones have been getting larger and larger. Sure, you get a great 4.8" screen. But try using that with one hand.
4G capability. You might not care now, but if you have it, you know it's a big deal. My cellular connection is faster than my home DSL. iPhones don't have 4G yet.
If I were in the market right now, I'd hold off until a true 4G iPhone was available, then I'd go that way. Best interface, regular updates that work, good form factor, good phone quality, quality build and support, most apps, etc etc.
However, since I'm already used to Android, my next phone will be whatever most advanced Android phone Verizon offers. And since HTC is introducing Android 4.0 (aka ICS) to the Thunderbolt in August (almost 1 year after it was promised), I anticipate getting that new phone in August, when ICS bricks my Thunderbolt.
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June 6th, 2012 at 7:15:44 AM
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Quote: EvenBobLike this? It looks awkward, and heavy. But its easier to type on?
My first Android phone had a keyboard slider. I bought it because I thought I preferred it. But the touch screen was better. You can set it up for tactile response. I never used the keyboard.
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June 6th, 2012 at 7:33:04 AM
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The phone shaking when you press a button is nothing at all like the tactile response you get from any mechanical input device.
Interface-wise, I find Sense slightly better than iOS and iOS slightly better than naked or Samsung's Android. Windows stands aside, since it's different in other ways.
Interface-wise, I find Sense slightly better than iOS and iOS slightly better than naked or Samsung's Android. Windows stands aside, since it's different in other ways.
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June 6th, 2012 at 7:49:47 AM
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With regard to screen size, checkout this discussion about a new product design.
Yes, the discussion is between Dilbert and the pointy-haired boss. Since that strip appeared a few months ago, I think I have seen products like that on display.
Yes, the discussion is between Dilbert and the pointy-haired boss. Since that strip appeared a few months ago, I think I have seen products like that on display.
June 6th, 2012 at 8:04:58 AM
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Quote: DocDo you know the differences between the versions of Android? I do not, but my impression is that much of the difference is to take advantage of different features of devices, for example, a different version of Android for pad/tablets vs. phones. Android 2.3 is still a current version and continues to be updated.
I'm not sure they'll be much more other than bug fixes in 2.3.x. 3.x was for tablets, and 4.x is merging the two streams. I've seen problems with 2.x having space and memory issues, and screen input issues, which have been fixed in 4.x. Definitely avoid Android 2.2 - there's software and apps out there that won't work on it.
I know nothing about Windows' Mobile OS, but the two people who have them love them.
People may think Apple users are arrogant or whatever... that doesn't stop their products being very usable, easy to use and excellent quality. Decide what you don't like about the iPhone for yourself, as it's a good starting point to work out what you what in a phone, and go from there into Android world. Dismissing them due to the users is... well, letting yourself being swayed by branding over content.
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I find this phone to be a fine size to use, and I carry it in a belt holster. It fits fine in a shirt or jacket pocket, but I think it would be a bit bulky in pants pockets. I wouldn't even consider it for a hip pocket unless you like the idea of buying replacement screens regularly.
As I said, you can read all you want, but there's no subsitution for getting a phone in your hand and playing with it. Questions about keyboard, bulk and form factor are easily answered, and no webpage or review is going to solve them for you. Go handle stuff.
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June 6th, 2012 at 8:11:17 AM
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Quote: thecesspitPeople may think Apple users are arrogant or whatever... that doesn't stop their products being very usable, easy to use and excellent quality.
I won't rehash my battle with the Apple computer of a few months back, but I still feel like feeding it to a wood chipper :) You know, Linux users are as arrogant as Apple's, but at least they concede their OS is not quite user friendly. In the end I think Asimov had it right when he said "Happiness is doing it rotten your way."
Donald Trump is a fucking criminal
June 6th, 2012 at 9:52:45 AM
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Hmm. The Linux users here are the most humble guys in the team. A fscking awesome, balls out developers. Arrogance is a human trait and not defined by the brands you use... :)
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
June 6th, 2012 at 10:00:58 AM
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I don't think I am arrogant (and was never called that by anyone), but I do think that user-friendliness of linux is unsurpassed by any other operating system (things were different in the early days, a decade ago or so, but now a Ubuntu or Mint is pretty much as friendly as it gets, although, the latest trend in the Ubuntu's GUI making it more and more resemble Macs is sorta disturbing).
"When two people always agree one of them is unnecessary"
June 6th, 2012 at 10:20:37 AM
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I'm always envious of the Ubuntu crew, as they have a nice GUI, that they can bypass and dive into the bowels whenever they want. I'd make the switch, but I like playing games on my PC too much...
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
June 6th, 2012 at 11:06:22 AM
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Quote: thecesspitI'd make the switch, but I like playing games on my PC too much...
Get a VritualBox.
I use it to do my taxes - the only thing I do that needs a windoze.
"When two people always agree one of them is unnecessary"
June 6th, 2012 at 12:52:54 PM
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Quote: thecesspit
People may think Apple users are arrogant or whatever...
Apple people have always acted like you're an idiot
if you didn't use Apple products. I looked into getting
an Apple 10 years ago and it did nothing for me, it
was way too expensive for no apparent reason.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
June 6th, 2012 at 1:06:32 PM
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I nominate the Samsung Focus S...
I have the predecessor to it (the Focus) and it's a little thinner/bigger screen than mine, and I LOVE mine
It's a WinPhone7 though...which isn't for EVERYONE...it's more business than "for fun" (I don't have all the games and crap that the Android/Apple has)
But the screen is CRYSTAL CLEAR and the browser is IE9 (which I like)
I have the predecessor to it (the Focus) and it's a little thinner/bigger screen than mine, and I LOVE mine
It's a WinPhone7 though...which isn't for EVERYONE...it's more business than "for fun" (I don't have all the games and crap that the Android/Apple has)
But the screen is CRYSTAL CLEAR and the browser is IE9 (which I like)
Gambling calls to me...like this ~> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nap37mNSmQ
June 7th, 2012 at 1:40:29 PM
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I guess I'll throw in my vote. I've gone through 2 Android phones, the Motorola Droid, and the Motorola Droid 2 (technically the Global edition, which has a dual-mode CDMA/GSM antenna, but that's only useful if you're traveling outside the US, and even then the international data plans are expensive).
These were one of the first lines of Android phones, and have a physical slide-out keyboard, which I really love and almost require. They're a bit bigger and more powerful than the slide-out keyboard phones that have been posted here, and of course more expensive. Here's a picture of the Droid 4, which is the current phone in this design:
If you click on the picture, you'll get to an Engadget review of the phone. I haven't used this phone personally, but I can vouch for the first two in its line. By the time my contract runs out, they'll probably be on to the Droid 5. These models are actually declining in popularity as the kids these days don't seem to care about the slide-out QWERTY keyboard. Hopefully they actually release the Droid 5.
FWIW I'm a Linux user (Ubuntu), but I don't think that really informs your choice of smart phone. Android may be based on Linux, but using an Android smart phone is really nothing like using Linux on your home PC. I mean, you can't even drop into a terminal, how Linux-y can it be? I personally don't like Apple products, but I know lots of people are happy with them.
These were one of the first lines of Android phones, and have a physical slide-out keyboard, which I really love and almost require. They're a bit bigger and more powerful than the slide-out keyboard phones that have been posted here, and of course more expensive. Here's a picture of the Droid 4, which is the current phone in this design:
If you click on the picture, you'll get to an Engadget review of the phone. I haven't used this phone personally, but I can vouch for the first two in its line. By the time my contract runs out, they'll probably be on to the Droid 5. These models are actually declining in popularity as the kids these days don't seem to care about the slide-out QWERTY keyboard. Hopefully they actually release the Droid 5.
FWIW I'm a Linux user (Ubuntu), but I don't think that really informs your choice of smart phone. Android may be based on Linux, but using an Android smart phone is really nothing like using Linux on your home PC. I mean, you can't even drop into a terminal, how Linux-y can it be? I personally don't like Apple products, but I know lots of people are happy with them.
"So drink gamble eat f***, because one day you will be dust." -ontariodealer
December 9th, 2013 at 12:36:32 PM
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New studies show people who are glued to
their phones have more stress, anxiety, and
unhappiness than people who don't use their
phones much. I think they have it backwards.
These people are unhappy and anxious to begin
with, they try and help themselves by constantly
being on twitter and FB and texting and taking
pictures of their food. I use my cell phone about
half a dozen times a year, I hate the damned
thing. I don't want to contact people and I don't
want to be contacted. What do I care what you
had for lunch or where you're stuck in traffic.
I have an actual life, leave me alone..
their phones have more stress, anxiety, and
unhappiness than people who don't use their
phones much. I think they have it backwards.
These people are unhappy and anxious to begin
with, they try and help themselves by constantly
being on twitter and FB and texting and taking
pictures of their food. I use my cell phone about
half a dozen times a year, I hate the damned
thing. I don't want to contact people and I don't
want to be contacted. What do I care what you
had for lunch or where you're stuck in traffic.
I have an actual life, leave me alone..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
December 9th, 2013 at 12:43:45 PM
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Worse thing about my heart attack is I now carry a cell phone so Josie can worry less. I HATE CELL PHONES. I will be riding in the car, not a worry in the world, and one of the kids will need me to bail them out of trouble. GRRRRRR
But I guess they are sorta necessary. Try and find a pay phone now ! I remember 1957 when the drugstores had two phone booth inside and 1 pay phone inside Greek diner across the street. Then all of a sudden 3 phone booths went up on the other corners of that intersection. In a mostly residential neighborhood. WTF Surely a co-incidence that calls went to 10 cents instead of a nickel in 58 BET ME.
But I guess they are sorta necessary. Try and find a pay phone now ! I remember 1957 when the drugstores had two phone booth inside and 1 pay phone inside Greek diner across the street. Then all of a sudden 3 phone booths went up on the other corners of that intersection. In a mostly residential neighborhood. WTF Surely a co-incidence that calls went to 10 cents instead of a nickel in 58 BET ME.
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
December 9th, 2013 at 12:52:27 PM
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Quote: BuzzardWorse thing about my heart attack is I now carry a cell phone so Josie can worry less. I HATE CELL PHONES. I will be riding in the car, not a worry in the world, and one of the kids will need me to bail them out of trouble. GRRRRRR
The famous architect Buckminster Fuller never owned
a phone. He said it was like having a rope tied to your
leg, anytime somebody wanted you they just jerk on
the rope. I agree completely.
I hear people in stores talking on phones and they aren't
saying anything. They're having conversations about
nothing. The last family Christmas I went to, there were
12 people in the living room and 9 of them were on their
smart phones. Nobody was talking, their heads were all
bent over in concentration. That insipid life 'out there' was
more important than the one they were living right in front
of them.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
December 9th, 2013 at 1:06:59 PM
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Quote: EvenBobThe famous architect Buckminster Fuller never owned
a phone. He said it was like having a rope tied to your
leg, anytime somebody wanted you they just jerk on
the rope. I agree completely.
I hear people in stores talking on phones and they aren't
saying anything. They're having conversations about
nothing. The last family Christmas I went to, there were
12 people in the living room and 9 of them were on their
smart phones. Nobody was talking, their heads were all
bent over in concentration. That insipid life 'out there' was
more important than the one they were living right in front
of them.
Big reason why I downgraded to a dumb phone. I don't judge anyone for their choices, but being less connected to the internet has been a quality-of-life improvement for me.
"So drink gamble eat f***, because one day you will be dust." -ontariodealer
December 9th, 2013 at 1:08:41 PM
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Best phone hands down is the HTC One. Does everything the other elites do, plus it has an unmatched sound. People who buy because of mega-pixels are being fooled by marketing. By the way, it's on sale through Christmas at Verizon for a hundred bucks. I paid two hundred two months ago.
I agree the happier people do not take their phone everywhere they go. You quickly become a slave to the thing, esp. if you work and/or have needy or spoiled kids.
I agree the happier people do not take their phone everywhere they go. You quickly become a slave to the thing, esp. if you work and/or have needy or spoiled kids.
December 9th, 2013 at 1:22:11 PM
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I do t see a big difference in sitting behind the computer posting on message boards all day or texting and twittering.Quote: EvenBobNew studies show people who are glued to
their phones have more stress, anxiety, and
unhappiness than people who don't use their
phones much. I think they have it backwards.
These people are unhappy and anxious to begin
with, they try and help themselves by constantly
being on twitter and FB and texting and taking
pictures of their food. I use my cell phone about
half a dozen times a year, I hate the damned
thing. I don't want to contact people and I don't
want to be contacted. What do I care what you
had for lunch or where you're stuck in traffic.
I have an actual life, leave me alone..
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
December 9th, 2013 at 1:27:52 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfI do t see a big difference in sitting behind the computer posting on message boards all day or texting and twittering.
I do. When you're sitting at a computer, you're making a choice "I am at my computer, doing computer things." Generally you aren't out and about, theoretically spending some quality time with your significant other or family, on a bus, etc. You are having "computer time" which can be rationed and planned around. Granted there is some gray area here with laptops and tablets, but personally I can compartmentalize more effectively.
With a smartphone, you're always connected. Always reachable, always distracted. Even when you're driving, which is very dangerous.
That's the difference I see. Now Mr. Bob here is retired so I cut him some slack for his internet activities. When I'm retired I'm sure my post count on sites like this will balloon to EvenBob-like levels :).
"So drink gamble eat f***, because one day you will be dust." -ontariodealer
December 9th, 2013 at 1:28:22 PM
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Quote: EvenBobNew studies show people who are glued to
their phones have more stress, anxiety, and
unhappiness than people who don't use their
phones much. I think they have it backwards.
These people are unhappy and anxious to begin
with, they try and help themselves by constantly
being on twitter and FB and texting and taking
pictures of their food. I use my cell phone about
half a dozen times a year, I hate the damned
thing. I don't want to contact people and I don't
want to be contacted. What do I care what you
had for lunch or where you're stuck in traffic.
I have an actual life, leave me alone..
Bob, I nominate this for post of the week! Maybe post of the year!
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
December 9th, 2013 at 1:31:26 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfI do t see a big difference in sitting behind the computer posting on message boards all day or texting and twittering.
There probably isn't any difference. I make a point
of not usually turning on my computer till about 2:30 pm
and turning it off by 8pm. I'm only on forums
when I'm working on something else. After 8pm I
might check it once in awhile, but 5 hours a day is
usually my window. I can't imagine doing this all
day, I would go insane. I sometimes post from my
tablet in the morning, but its winter and I don't have
a lot to do outside.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
