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PBguy
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July 14th, 2015 at 9:29:52 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Scientists warn the sun will 'go to sleep' in 2030 and could cause temperatures to plummet!

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When everything old is new again



This is interesting yet for anyone that has paid attention to solar cycle predictions it's obvious that the existing models have VERY little, if any, skill. This current solar cycle was predicted to be huge and instead it's relatively small. I don't have a lot of faith that this new model will prove any more accurate. Still a lot to learn about the sun.
HowMany
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July 15th, 2015 at 3:59:35 AM permalink
Where I live, we had 32 consecutive days of high temps that were below the average high temp.

Today will make 33 consecutive days. Today's high temp 76 degrees, average is 85 degrees.

33 in a row! What are the odds?
terapined
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July 15th, 2015 at 8:14:45 AM permalink
Lindsey Graham for President.
A candidate with commom sense

"I know I'm not a scientist, but here's the problem I've got with some people in my party: When you ask the scientists what's going on, why don't you believe them? If I went to 10 doctors and nine said, "Hey, you're gonna die," and one says "You're fine," why would I believe the one guy? So there you go."
"Everybody's bragging and drinking that wine, I can tell the Queen of Diamonds by the way she shines, Come to Daddy on an inside straight, I got no chance of losing this time" -Grateful Dead- "Loser"
AZDuffman
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July 16th, 2015 at 3:54:52 AM permalink
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Yep and those people are also morons. Anyone who says bad weather X happened therefore global warming is definitely true is an idiot.



I agree!

SEATTLE (AP) - President Barack Obama says a wildfire that has burned nearly 400 square miles in the north-central part of Washington state, along with blazes in other Western areas, can be attributed to climate change.
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terapined
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July 16th, 2015 at 4:30:04 AM permalink
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I agree!

SEATTLE (AP) - President Barack Obama says a wildfire that has burned nearly 400 square miles in the north-central part of Washington state, along with blazes in other Western areas, can be attributed to climate change.



Here is the actual quote
"A lot of it has to do with drought, a lot of it has to do with changing precipitation patterns and a lot of that has to do with climate change"

I admit its partially wrong.
Drought, ok
changing precipitation patterns ok
Climate change maybe

Obama is partially wrong, Lindsey Graham is right on the money.
From Lindsey regarding climate change.
I know I'm not a scientist, but here's the problem I've got with some people in my party: When you ask the scientists what's going on, why don't you believe them? If I went to 10 doctors and nine said, "Hey, you're gonna die," and one says "You're fine," why would I believe the one guy? So there you go."
"Everybody's bragging and drinking that wine, I can tell the Queen of Diamonds by the way she shines, Come to Daddy on an inside straight, I got no chance of losing this time" -Grateful Dead- "Loser"
AZDuffman
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July 16th, 2015 at 6:45:09 AM permalink
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Quote: AZDuffman

I agree!

SEATTLE (AP) - President Barack Obama says a wildfire that has burned nearly 400 square miles in the north-central part of Washington state, along with blazes in other Western areas, can be attributed to climate change.



Here is the actual quote
"A lot of it has to do with drought, a lot of it has to do with changing precipitation patterns and a lot of that has to do with climate change"

I admit its partially wrong.
Drought, ok
changing precipitation patterns ok
Climate change maybe



The thing is this, precipitation patterns have ALWAYS been changing. In the late 1800s many believed "rain follows the plow" as to farming in the great plains. They were "right" because that area saw years of good precipitation. Until the Dust Bowl.

When you read the quote, you need to understand what is being communicated. As we all know, Obama is incapable of talking off a teleprompter. The quote was massaged so as not to directly say "GLOBAL WARMING!" To use the liberal's famous term, it is a "dog whistle" to the enviro left.

Obama one year said he was "concerned" about spring coming early. Now, anyone over the age of 20 who lived in the north knows sometimes spring comes early and sometimes not. We base Groundhog Day around it. But again, he puts out the whistle.

As to Graham, cute quote. It, however, is not "believing" the scientists who are so-called deniers. It is that once you turn 30 and even more 40 you are not as taken in by fads. You think back to the global-cooling talk and say, "I've seen this movie before. The butler did it."
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July 16th, 2015 at 7:56:53 AM permalink
Quote: terapined

Quote: AZDuffman

I agree!

SEATTLE (AP) - President Barack Obama says a wildfire that has burned nearly 400 square miles in the north-central part of Washington state, along with blazes in other Western areas, can be attributed to climate change.



Here is the actual quote
"A lot of it has to do with drought, a lot of it has to do with changing precipitation patterns and a lot of that has to do with climate change"

I admit its partially wrong.
Drought, ok
changing precipitation patterns ok
Climate change maybe

Obama is partially wrong, Lindsey Graham is right on the money.
From Lindsey regarding climate change.
I know I'm not a scientist, but here's the problem I've got with some people in my party: When you ask the scientists what's going on, why don't you believe them? If I went to 10 doctors and nine said, "Hey, you're gonna die," and one says "You're fine," why would I believe the one guy? So there you go."



So are you proposing we go back to horses and buggy's?
No-you know it's all bull***.
Your party had complete power in 2009 and did NOTHING on "global warming". So now we're all going to drown in 10 years. Or 10 million years more likely. Meanwhile in Miami Beach developers keep spending billions on new construction and insurers keep insuring them.
The odor of manure permeates the air.
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July 16th, 2015 at 10:31:34 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Quote: terapined

Quote: AZDuffman

I agree!

SEATTLE (AP) - President Barack Obama says a wildfire that has burned nearly 400 square miles in the north-central part of Washington state, along with blazes in other Western areas, can be attributed to climate change.



Here is the actual quote
"A lot of it has to do with drought, a lot of it has to do with changing precipitation patterns and a lot of that has to do with climate change"

I admit its partially wrong.
Drought, ok
changing precipitation patterns ok
Climate change maybe



The thing is this, precipitation patterns have ALWAYS been changing. In the late 1800s many believed "rain follows the plow" as to farming in the great plains. They were "right" because that area saw years of good precipitation. Until the Dust Bowl.

When you read the quote, you need to understand what is being communicated. As we all know, Obama is incapable of talking off a teleprompter. The quote was massaged so as not to directly say "GLOBAL WARMING!" To use the liberal's famous term, it is a "dog whistle" to the enviro left.

Obama one year said he was "concerned" about spring coming early. Now, anyone over the age of 20 who lived in the north knows sometimes spring comes early and sometimes not. We base Groundhog Day around it. But again, he puts out the whistle.

As to Graham, cute quote. It, however, is not "believing" the scientists who are so-called deniers. It is that once you turn 30 and even more 40 you are not as taken in by fads. You think back to the global-cooling talk and say, "I've seen this movie before. The butler did it."



You keep bringing up global-cooling talk as though it was a major scientific consensus back then or even something significantly brought up. There was a Times article about how it might be happening and a few scientific articles talking about how the world might be cooling or the world might be warming, with even then more articles talking about global warming compared to global cooling, 44 compared to 7 in the period 1965-1979. Perhaps if you got your information from legitimate scientific journals or reputable scientific news writers rather than pop news magazines like News Week or the Times you would see that global warming is the consensus.

You are welcome to your down home folksy wisdom, but being old doesn't make you wise or sagely it just makes you old.
AZDuffman
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July 16th, 2015 at 5:48:14 PM permalink
Quote: Twirdman



You keep bringing up global-cooling talk as though it was a major scientific consensus back then or even something significantly brought up. There was a Times article about how it might be happening and a few scientific articles talking about how the world might be cooling or the world might be warming, with even then more articles talking about global warming compared to global cooling, 44 compared to 7 in the period 1965-1979. Perhaps if you got your information from legitimate scientific journals or reputable scientific news writers rather than pop news magazines like News Week or the Times you would see that global warming is the consensus.

You are welcome to your down home folksy wisdom, but being old doesn't make you wise or sagely it just makes you old.



I'll take being old any day. As to "consensus" what I see is a bunch of scientists that get loads of cash for going with the flow. I will continue to use my own judgment rather than listen to the fear tactics. For 30 years now I have heard we have 10 years to act, yet temps are still stable to falling.

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bobsims
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July 17th, 2015 at 8:54:01 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

As to "consensus" what I see is a bunch of scientists that get loads of cash for going with the flow. I will continue to use my own judgment rather than listen to the fear tactics. For 30 years now I have heard we have 10 years to act, yet temps are still stable to falling.



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