U.S. Senate vs. pornography
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I think these politicians might be surprised to learn that most of their own constituents use pornography. My personal opinion is that societies which tolerate porn (USA & Europe) tend to have less violence against women than societies which ban porn (Saudi Arabia) but these politicians are the experts on smut, not me.
What do you think?
Quote: renoEarlier this month, 42 U.S. Senators (7 Democrats & 35 Republicans) signed a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder complaining that the Dept of Justice has neglected to prosecute "major commercial distributors of hardcore adult pornography." The full text of the letter can be read here: http://www.politico.com/static/PPM153_obsc.html
I think these politicians might be surprised to learn that most of their own constituents use pornography. My personal opinion is that societies which tolerate porn (USA & Europe) tend to have less violence against women than societies which ban porn (Saudi Arabia) but these politicians are the experts on smut, not me.
What do you think?
Other than child porn I don't see them having anything to prosecute. I don't buy your correlation of violence against women and porn prohibitions. I think the fact that say Saudi Arabia has a religion that teaches violence against women cannot be discounted. Japan has heavy porn restrictions and no violence against women. Male chauvanism yes, violence not so much. Women run the households in Japan.
Quote: AZDuffmanOther than child porn I don't see them having anything to prosecute. I don't buy your correlation of violence against women and porn prohibitions. I think the fact that say Saudi Arabia has a religion that teaches violence against women cannot be discounted. Japan has heavy porn restrictions and no violence against women. Male chauvanism yes, violence not so much. Women run the households in Japan.
42 members of the United States Senate couldn't figure out that no matter how much they dislike it, the distribution of pornography starring adult actors is legal? Really?!? I have not read the politico article, but I'd bet that I can name 25 of the 42 dumbf...er...Senators off the top of my head.
Islam does not teach violence against women, and Japan has some very widely available and depraved sexually-themed shit going on. If Japan really has heavy porn restrictions, then they almost certainly have to have the effect of elevating the Japanese porn industry (there's no way that culture would consume MORE porn without restrictions...)
Quote: AZDuffmanOther than child porn I don't see them having anything to prosecute.
The U.S. Supreme Court determined in 1973 (Miller v California) that "obscenity" is not protected by the 1st Amendment.
In 2007, George W. Bush's Justice Department indicted Paul Little (stage name Max Hardcore) with 5 counts of mailing obscene matter. All of the performers in the videos were over 18, but the videos were declared "obscene" because they depicted urination, vomiting, and fisting. He was sentenced to 46 months in prison. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Hardcore#cite_note-20
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A tough choice. The Senate has been around for a long while. But porn has been around longer, so if we have to choose between the two, I vote for porn.
Then I can confidently answer, porn, but only with informed consent.
Quote: MoscaInstead of drawing the line at "child porn", let's make it at "informed consent". That will cover whole classes of people who are incapable of stopping their being abused used for profit, and include children at the same time.
I'm afraid that should be "child porn" and "informed consent.
What if pedophiles obtian infomred consent from children? Oh, I know children cannot give it, legally, but what if their parents do? Then it should be illegal for the aprents to do so, yes? So we're back at child porn and infomred consent.
Quote: JimMorrisonJapan has heavy porn restrictions? Really? I've been there twice and porn seemed more in the open than in the U.S.
Japan (at least used to) censor the pubic regions of photos in magazines. I have heard they have their own "brand" or type of porn. My understanding is that there is more of what there is but it is softer core than in the USA.
On the "informed consent" thing I would like to see the child porn laws (and statutory rape laws for that matter) changed to a regular/aggravated format. Who was the child porn star who filmed a bunch of movies and then they found out she was underage and had to pull all but one or so from the shelves? (she was 18 in that one.) It is wrong to convict someone for posession if the "studio" took due dillagence but got fooled. Same for the 19 year old dating a 17 year old classmate and then gets a "sex offender" stamp on his yellow sheet for life.
Quote: SOOPOOJust asking... Can someone explain this to me.... If I pay a woman for sex I am committing a crime, and so is she...... but IF I film her while she is having sex that I paid her for it is not a crime?
Do you need a permit of some sort to be running a porn industry business where you pay the "actors"? Otherwise, any "John" caught in the act could pull out a camera, and say, "But officer, we're shooting a picture here."
