Are Transwomen Women
Quote: ThisIsMyJam
I don't know anything about you specifically or if this applies to you but I'm always curious about straight men who state a transgender woman actually becomes a woman. Does that mean those same straight men would be willing to have a relationship and/or be intimate with these newly made women?
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Ashly tells me I'm quite happily married, thank you, and I don't need to worry about things like attraction to the individual, liking the same restaurants, or compatible personalities.
She goes on to say that they can be one of the many, many women that aren't right for me.
Quote: GenoDRPhQuote: ThisIsMyJamQuote: darkozQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: darkozQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: darkozQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: darkozI am certain none of the members here who refuse to call someone by their preference would dare gonin front of a judge and say, "Mr. X, I refuse to call you "Your Honor" because you weren't born that way and in fact didn't become your honor until recently when appointed as a judge so you will have to respect my wish to call you Mr. And Sir."
I would love to see someone on here try it.
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How on earth does that relate? A judge is actually a judge.
But I identify as a judge so from now on please refer to me as The Most Honorable AZDuffman.
Thanks in advance.
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So you believe a judge was born a judge?
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What on earth are you talking about?
Listen, I said I identify as a judge. So quit saying “you” and say “your honor” please. Tolerance for my identification.
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Lol suddenly AZ doesn't know what I am talking about.
It was the simplest question. Does he believe judges are born that way.
He can't answer directly because he really understands his position is wrong so he answers with the blubbering "what are you talking about?" Line.
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Unless there is a divine right of judges they are not born judges. Again I ask what are you talking about?
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So if you are willing to call someone not born a judge a judge when they become a judge why won't you call a transgender a woman when she becomes a woman?
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I don't know anything about you specifically or if this applies to you but I'm always curious about straight men who state a transgender woman actually becomes a woman. Does that mean those same straight men would be willing to have a relationship and/or be intimate with these newly made women?
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Some do. There's someone out there for everyone!
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True, there is someone for everyone but "some do" is rather vague. That could be a minute number. IMO, if a man truly believes this then he should have no problem having a relationship with a trans woman. I've asked a few men elsewhere online and now here but I never get an actual straightforward response. Thus my curiosity remains.
Quote: ThisIsMyJamQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: ThisIsMyJamQuote: darkozQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: darkozQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: darkozQuote: AZDuffmanQuote: darkozI am certain none of the members here who refuse to call someone by their preference would dare gonin front of a judge and say, "Mr. X, I refuse to call you "Your Honor" because you weren't born that way and in fact didn't become your honor until recently when appointed as a judge so you will have to respect my wish to call you Mr. And Sir."
I would love to see someone on here try it.
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How on earth does that relate? A judge is actually a judge.
But I identify as a judge so from now on please refer to me as The Most Honorable AZDuffman.
Thanks in advance.
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So you believe a judge was born a judge?
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What on earth are you talking about?
Listen, I said I identify as a judge. So quit saying “you” and say “your honor” please. Tolerance for my identification.
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Lol suddenly AZ doesn't know what I am talking about.
It was the simplest question. Does he believe judges are born that way.
He can't answer directly because he really understands his position is wrong so he answers with the blubbering "what are you talking about?" Line.
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Unless there is a divine right of judges they are not born judges. Again I ask what are you talking about?
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So if you are willing to call someone not born a judge a judge when they become a judge why won't you call a transgender a woman when she becomes a woman?
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I don't know anything about you specifically or if this applies to you but I'm always curious about straight men who state a transgender woman actually becomes a woman. Does that mean those same straight men would be willing to have a relationship and/or be intimate with these newly made women?
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Some do. There's someone out there for everyone!
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True, there is someone for everyone but "some do" is rather vague. That could be a minute number. IMO, if a man truly believes this then he should have no problem having a relationship with a trans woman. I've asked a few men elsewhere online and now here but I never get an actual straightforward response. Thus my curiosity remains.
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I have had relationships with transgender women.
Haven't had one in a long time. Over a decade. I have children and grandchildren. My children know about my "adventures". Not my grandchildren unless their mom told them. I don't feel that's for me to discuss with them.
If I saw how a transgender woman looked before their transformation I would vomit. Not attracted to men.
Transwomen aren't a problem.
Watch the TV series Pose. It gives a good look into the lives of transgender women.
He's probably just a little slow coming out talking about the subject.
Nothing wrong with that.
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I have had relationships with transgender women.
Haven't had one in a long time. Over a decade. I have children and grandchildren. My children know about my "adventures". Not my grandchildren unless their mom told them. I don't feel that's for me to discuss with them.
If I saw how a transgender woman looked before their transformation I would vomit. Not attracted to men.
Transwomen aren't a problem.
Watch the TV series Pose. It gives a good look into the lives of transgender women.
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Based on your response about vomiting I have to assume that your relationships with transgender women were limited to those who had surgically transitioned. There are many trans women who havent had any surgeries so they still have male body parts. Are those trans women not women to you?
Quote: ThisIsMyJamQuote: darkoz
I have had relationships with transgender women.
Haven't had one in a long time. Over a decade. I have children and grandchildren. My children know about my "adventures". Not my grandchildren unless their mom told them. I don't feel that's for me to discuss with them.
If I saw how a transgender woman looked before their transformation I would vomit. Not attracted to men.
Transwomen aren't a problem.
Watch the TV series Pose. It gives a good look into the lives of transgender women.
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Based on your response about vomiting I have to assume that your relationships with transgender women were limited to those who had surgically transitioned. There are many trans women who havent had any surgeries so they still have male body parts. Are those trans women not women to you?
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You are wrong.
I have never had a relationship with a transgender post op.
The male shape turns me off. Not a female shape with male sex organ.
Is there some psychoanalytic reason you are pursuing this?
Quote: ThisIsMyJamQuote: darkoz
I have had relationships with transgender women.
Haven't had one in a long time. Over a decade. I have children and grandchildren. My children know about my "adventures". Not my grandchildren unless their mom told them. I don't feel that's for me to discuss with them.
If I saw how a transgender woman looked before their transformation I would vomit. Not attracted to men.
Transwomen aren't a problem.
Watch the TV series Pose. It gives a good look into the lives of transgender women.
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Based on your response about vomiting I have to assume that your relationships with transgender women were limited to those who had surgically transitioned. There are many trans women who havent had any surgeries so they still have male body parts. Are those trans women not women to you?
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What does being attracted to someone have anything to do what the person is who is the object of desire is? By that reasoning people having sex with an animal says something about what the animal is?
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I have had relationships with transgender women.
Haven't had one in a long time. Over a decade. I have children and grandchildren. My children know about my "adventures". Not my grandchildren unless their mom told them. I don't feel that's for me to discuss with them.
If I saw how a transgender woman looked before their transformation I would vomit. Not attracted to men.
Transwomen aren't a problem.
Watch the TV series Pose. It gives a good look into the lives of transgender women.
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Based on your response about vomiting I have to assume that your relationships with transgender women were limited to those who had surgically transitioned. There are many trans women who havent had any surgeries so they still have male body parts. Are those trans women not women to you?
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The male shape turns me off. Not a female shape with male sex organ.
Is there some psychoanalytic reason you are pursuing this?
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I'm not even sure what you mean by that. Someone that looks like a man is a turn off and that would make you vomit. But someone that looks like a woman but has a man's sex organ wouldn't? That's rather surprising and interesting.
I'm interested because you are the only person I've ever seen say a trans woman is truly a woman, that you are straight, and have indeed been with trans women. You appear to be a rarity.
As absolutely fascinating as who has dated whom is, that is clearly NOT about forum rules and policies.
I'm guilty too. I'd expect a thread split, lockdown, and suggestion to take it somewhere else (like DT) to be coming soon.
