Quote: mcallister3200I find it condescending, and it's one of the things I hate being called by women I don't know.
Things I hate being called by women. 1. Hun 2. Honey 3. Sweetie. These are used constantly in Vegas so I suppose I should get used to it.
Things I hate being called by men, especially those I don't know: 1. Buddy 2. Boss 3. Bro 4. Brother
My very attentive waiter yesterday called me boss, buddy, and bro within a 5 minute span yesterday, I was thinking he was about to call me honey next.
Good looking dealers love the games. (no...not the table game)
especially Italians...pretty ruthlesss at it. They'll call you sweetie, hun, look at you like they wanna marry you.
Until you lose all your chips, then they've done their job...and are done with you.
Dealers normally don't want you to lose.Quote: john2010Good looking dealers love the games. (no...not the table game)
especially Italians...pretty ruthlesss at it. They'll call you sweetie, hun, look at you like they wanna marry you.
Until you lose all your chips, then they've done their job...and are done with you.
Quote: AxelWolfDealers normally don't want you to lose.
of course silly. which is why their overly nice and want you to come back for more.
they know who has the odds.
1) Win big quick and leave
2) Lose quick and leave
3) Play for a long time [rare]
#1 and #2 are kind of related. If someone plays a short period of time, the player will either win big really fast and tip the dealer. And dealer won't have to work a bunch more. Or if the player loses quickly, same thing -- less work. And after all, isn't that what just about every one at their job wants to do -- less work.
#3 is rare, but it's usually for a player who is fun and pleasurable to deal to, and of course, a good tipper. These types of players are rare. There are, of course, some players who are fun to deal to, but don't tip much (or don't tip at all). Not the "ideal" client to be dealing to, but on a packed Friday or Saturday night -- if I'm going to have 6-8 people on my side of the table, if I can get 1 or 2 people that are fun to deal to, it makes the night go by much quicker.....and I'd rather have one of them "locking up a spot" so one of those a**hole players can't play there and stroke me by playing $2 12 and $3 ace-deuce all night.
Most players I'd rather see win, and not because "I'll get tipped [more] if they win", but because I'd rather someone win money than lose money.
Of course, there are a few rare exceptions. The dude who argues over every 7-out "it hit the chips wait WTF THAT SHOULDNT COUNT ITS ON AN ANGLE". Or the dude who does weird sh** like $88 inside then the next roll "make it look like $110 inside" then the next roll "go to $135 across" etc. Then again, these are the types of people who you genuinely just fail miserably in life. The guy who sets up his bets in a way to make it even more difficult for the dealer to do his job (ie: $36 eight, when it hits, go to $54...and won't drop a dollar).....or the guy who buys in $500, asks for 2 stacks of red and $20 in singles....then throws down a green chip for a $12 six and eight...and never wants to drop $1 (for $15) or $11 (for $25) when it hits.
Then again, same kinda people everyone's gotta work with. You know, when the waiter asks if you need anything else, person says they want ketchup but other than that they're good. Waiter comes back...oh can I get a refill on my drink....waiter returns...can I get mustard too...waiter returns....etc.
Quote: nhbtitanYeah, Tell them your interested and you want to show her a good time. They say yes or they say no. Women hate Gentlemen, their p*$&#-$. They say they like them but they just use them.
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It seems to me that if the dealers had a choice they would want a player to win quickly, toke BIG and leave so that they could go back to waiting for their next break.
2. They deserve the same level of basic human respect that anyone else gets.
If you can't wrap your head around #2, you won't ever get a chance to experience #1.
Treating people in the service industry as equals will almost always lead to better and more favorable results. (Excluding the actual gambling, of course)
I'm sure they receive a lot of offers but looking at most of the cigar/cig smoking oldies in their 70s/80s frequenting the place, or the ones that show up drunk, I can understand why they would want to be as far away as possible from anyone that frequents their establishment.
People are people. Anything can happen. But, would you want to date Margaret "Hot Stick Dealer at Craps" Houlihan only to have to avoid her table after having a fight or break up?
I'm happy I'm married. I don't have to worry about any of this.
Quote:JoelDezePeople are people.
That is debatable.
Give it time, you know what they say about familiarity. : )Quote:I'm happy I'm married.
I never hit on women in the service industry. I figured it was pointless because they have guys doing it to them all day and they're sick of it. As slim a chance as I had with picking up women in general, with service industry women it's a fraction of that. I'm not the best looking guy in the world so whenever they get all flirty with me I know it's just to get a bigger tip. Sometimes I'll play along, but 98% of the time their shenanigans fall on deaf ears.
Although I did have a once in a lifetime occurrence one time where a cute lady bartender (not at a casino) actually asked ME out. We went out on a couple of dates but it fizzled out pretty quick. Didn't even get a kiss in.
Quote: TigerWuThe single...life sucks.
Too quote Fred Sanford again......ARE YOU CRAZY?!?!?! :-)
Quote: TigerWuThankfully I'm married now. The single/dating life sucks. I hated every second of it.
Yeah you were doing it wrong.
Quote: RogerKintYeah you were doing it wrong.
I know. I have terrible social skills. And I'm not rich or handsome. Three strikes. That's why I hated being single.
You need to know, you screwed that up from the start. If she asked you out, you should respond 'are you a good kisser'? If she say's 'yes', you ask her to prove it, right then. If she say's 'no', you tell her you are a proffesional kissing instructor, and offer 1 free demonstration, offer good for the next 30 seconds. You got to be able to think on your feet, or your back, or her back, and so forth ;-)Quote: TigerWu
Although I did have a once in a lifetime occurrence one time where a cute lady bartender (not at a casino) actually asked ME out. We went out on a couple of dates but it fizzled out pretty quick. Didn't even get a kiss in.
Quote: TwoFeathersATLYou need to know, you screwed that up from the start. If she asked you out, you should respond 'are you a good kisser'? If she say's 'yes', you ask her to prove it, right then. If she say's 'no', you tell her you are a proffesional kissing instructor, and offer 1 free demonstration, offer good for the next 30 seconds. You got to be able to think on your feet, or your back, or her back, and so forth ;-)
There's no way in hell that works.
Virtually nothing works every time, you got to just keep pluggin' away. It's alot like blackjack, occasionally you get lucky.Quote: MBThere's no way in hell that works.
You didn't really think I was goin' to tell the real 'good' lines did ya?
The APs would be all over me for giving away secrets ;-)
At least someone would be all over you.Quote: TwoFeathersATLAPs would be all over me for giving away secrets ;-)
I am going to assume you weren't volunteering.Quote: AxelWolfAt least someone would be all over you.
I'd hate to hurt your feelings ;-)
Quote: MBThere's no way in hell that works.
You would be surprised what works. I was at a birthday party, when I was in my early 20's, having had a couple of drinks and feeling a bunch of courage. A young lady walks up to me and asks if I would like to dance. Well, I can't dance so I thought that I would try to be funny, never thinking that anything would come of it. I replied "I only dance in bed".........well, we danced and danced and.....
Two words: "Just ask."
Works for most every situation.
Don't be shy, don't dwell on rejection, keep on keepin' on.
Guys need to understand something about asking a woman out; she must make an initial, quick decision about whether to accept or decline the offer of a date, using her personal preferences as her primary filter.
"No" means she made an initial decision that you aren't her type, which is fine: we aren't all compatible.
This isn't the third world, women in America have the right to choose.
Quote: MrV
This isn't the third world, women in America have the right to choose.
SO many Bill Cosby jokes, so little time
unless they are old and unattractive the nice guy flirting just comes off creepy.Quote: JoelDezeI flirt with female dealers often but I'm very polite when I do.
Quote: AxelWolfunless they are old and unattractive the nice guy flirting just comes off creepy.
Or just comes off as a nice guy.
Trust me they don't.Quote: JoelDezeOr just comes off as a nice guy.
They may act all nice and sweet about it but that's natural because their tips and job depends on it.
The ones who agreed I suspect could have been working girls.
Quote: WizardI think somewhere in this long thread somebody mentioned somebody who just asked random women to have sex and some of them actually said "yes." Then I somehow stumbled up on this video.
The ones who agreed I suspect could have been working girls.
Stumbled? ;) The "4-some" girls could use some math help from the Wizard himself.
This morning, in church, the preacher said that 1 in 3 Americans have an STD. I was trying to figure out how that's even possible.
Quote: RogerKintStumbled? ;) The "4-some" girls could use some math help from the Wizard himself.
Free math lessons! Starting with 1+4=?
Quote: WizardI think somewhere in this long thread somebody mentioned somebody who just asked random women to have sex and some of them actually said "yes." Then I somehow stumbled up on this video.
The ones who agreed I suspect could have been working girls.
There's a 2% greater chance to hit either the 4 or 10 place bet.
Quote: RogerKintStumbled? ;) The "4-some" girls could use some math help from the Wizard himself.
This morning, in church, the preacher said that 1 in 3 Americans have an STD. I was trying to figure out how that's even possible.
I guess we need to have THE TALK Roger.
Don't be embarrassed now because I won't be. That's what youtube is for. The future of parenting *Clicks play and Exits room. http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTU5MzU2MzY2Nl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwOTM4NzMxMDE@._V1_SX640_SY720_.jpg
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If he is including all forms of herpes he may not be that far off.
Quote: AxelWolfI guess we need to have THE TALK Roger.
Don't be embarrassed now because I won't be. That's what youtube is for. The future of parenting *Clicks play and Exits room. http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTU5MzU2MzY2Nl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwOTM4NzMxMDE@._V1_SX640_SY720_.jpg
The link didnt work. Must be the porn blocker my stupid parents put on my pc.
Quote: RogerKint
This morning, in church, the preacher said that 1 in 3 Americans have an STD. I was trying to figure out how that's even possible.
HPV.
Almost everyone who is sexually active gets it at some point in their lives, but the majority of the time it shows no symptoms and just goes away on it's own.
Quote: TigerWuHPV.
Almost everyone who is sexually active gets it at some point in their lives, but the majority of the time it shows no symptoms and just goes away on it's own.
Little bit of misinformation there. Symptoms if any, may go away within 2 years, but the virus itself does not. There is no known cure.
Quote: beachbumbabsLittle bit of misinformation there. Symptoms if any, may go away within 2 years, but the virus itself does not. There is no known cure.
Huh... well, I got that info from skimming the CDC website: "In most cases, HPV goes away on its own and does not cause any health problems."
They probably could have worded that better.
Quote: debitncreditDoes anyone have any story about flirting with female dealers or cocktail waitresses leading to something more (phone numbers, dates, etc.).
Does that ever happen?
I did that and didnt went well...
Quote: BarbFrietheres nothing wrong dating a dealer.
That's right.
Its part of the theme of Las Vegas but there is one heck of a difference between what happens on the Las Vegas Strip and at the casino's tables. One woman was walking the Strip and some young man also walking the Strip liked what he saw and went straight in for the kill. Two days later they flew to her parents house and arranged a wedding. It happens, but it happened outside the casino.Quote: WizardSomewhere on Cocktail Doll's site she discusses this topic. I don't remember her exact words but as I recall they were pretty much what BBB just wrote. For good tippers she will engage in a little banter but she hates to get overtly hit on and thinks very low of men stupid enough to think they have a shot as a total stranger.
Inside the casino, the rules change. Its friendly banter, drinks, costumes, or as BBB said 'Interactive Decor' or the like. It is not a license to leer or take liberties. If she has a name tag, use it. If you are at NYNY's high roller area and recognize Cocktail Doll, you can call her 'Doll' but other than that, no.
Waitresses work for a living, often in ill fitting shoes, do you really think you are going to get anywhere with them. If you get a drink served to you with a name and phone number written in lipstick, congratulations, but wait until she is off work before calling it.
On the flip side I have a friend that's a guy, and he's a good looking guy. He gets women that flirt with him, hit on him, and leave their numbers for him all the time. Women do the same stuff, but usually servers "tend" to more frequently be females so you just hear about it the other way more often.