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September 3rd, 2018 at 8:31:21 PM permalink
According to a website with oddly detailed information about craps layouts: "Update January 2, 2018 If you bet the place-4 and place-10 numbers at craps you will get better payouts at Red Rock Casino in Summerlin which is about twenty minutes from the Las Vegas Strip. At Red Rock, a $10 bet on the 4 or 10 pays $19 while at other casinos the pay is $18. There is no fee or commission and this payoff on the 4 and 10 is automatic."

If I did the math right, that reduces the house edge to less than 1% on the 4 & 10. But is it true?!

(Ironic that this comes after I complain about their music volume haha.)

Original source: http://alanbestbuys.com/id139.html
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September 3rd, 2018 at 9:10:38 PM permalink
At El Cortez, Downtown Vegas, IIRC, a $10 bet on the 4 or 10 pays $19.50
while at other casinos the pay is $18. (Buy bet vs. Place bet)

This is an automatic Buy bet with the 5% vig paid on a win only
(they have 50 cents and 50 cent chips on the table)

the house edge is -.50 / 30 (1.67%)

many do not understand the differences between a Buy bet and a Place bet
and many never will understand them

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September 3rd, 2018 at 9:14:59 PM permalink
@Sally

So you think what's happening is that the dealer gave him a buy bet (instead of a place) without asking, and then rounded down the $19.50 to $19? That sounds plausible.
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September 3rd, 2018 at 9:41:41 PM permalink
Quote: lll

So you think what's happening is that the dealer gave him a buy bet (instead of a place) without asking, and then rounded down the $19.50 to $19? That sounds plausible.

yes.
I have seen that happen before.
Many craps tables do not have 50 cent pieces so they charge $1 on $10 buy bets
and for those tables that do it automatically, it is ok for the player.

I know the Fremont downtown Vegas has LOTS of Buy 4 and 10 action.
I forget, but think the vig is paid up front there.
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September 4th, 2018 at 12:31:52 AM permalink
Quote: mustangsally

Many do not understand the differences between a Buy bet and a Place bet and many never will understand them

Do they get 'buy' lammers positioned on them?
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September 4th, 2018 at 3:25:58 AM permalink
The last time I was at the Cal, they had 25¢ chips and you could buy for as little as $5. AND you paid the vig on a win only.

The only catch is you had to specify that it was a buy bet.
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September 4th, 2018 at 7:38:31 AM permalink
Any Stations casino pays $19 on $10 4 and 10. Gold Coast pays $19 and the second time $19.5 SLS pays $19 and 3x on 12. South points $19 but double odds and no side bets at all. Westgate pays $18.
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September 4th, 2018 at 8:11:52 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Do they get 'buy' lammers positioned on them?

sometimes yes, sometimes no.
that is what made me ask.
remember lots of break-in female craps dealers at EC. very pretty ones too.

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September 4th, 2018 at 8:19:07 AM permalink
remember lots of break-in female craps dealers at EC. very pretty ones too

Really???? I will check and report back sometime today.
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September 6th, 2018 at 12:26:04 PM permalink
Quote: lll

According to a website with oddly detailed information about craps layouts: "Update January 2, 2018 If you bet the place-4 and place-10 numbers at craps you will get better payouts at Red Rock Casino in Summerlin which is about twenty minutes from the Las Vegas Strip. At Red Rock, a $10 bet on the 4 or 10 pays $19 while at other casinos the pay is $18. There is no fee or commission and this payoff on the 4 and 10 is automatic."

If I did the math right, that reduces the house edge to less than 1% on the 4 & 10. But is it true?!

(Ironic that this comes after I complain about their music volume haha.)

Original source: http://alanbestbuys.com/id139.html



I believe all Stations Casinos offer this payout. All bets on 4 or 10 are assumed to be buy bets, and they do not charge vig until after the bet hits.
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September 6th, 2018 at 5:24:42 PM permalink
Quote: mustangsally

remember lots of break-in female craps dealers at EC. very pretty ones too.

Wow. Now you tell me!! Mustang Sally and also pretty dealers who are not yet making ends meet. I'll try to start putting in double stints at panhandling.
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