RaleighCraps
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February 19th, 2013 at 7:22:01 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

I think this thread has revealed that even the much maligned Indian casinos are very much part of the items available on the smorgasbord and that all casinos are competitive in some manner seeking to differentiate themselves and reach out to some market niche.

Cards and Craps is a mixture I don't care to even consider so I'm glad I'm geographically untempted.

It shows that "gambling" is a variable offering and that there are various pressures on a casino customer: time, distance, spousal preferences, convenience, exotic atmosphere, particular unique variations at certain casinos, etc.

It is once again an illustration that "Vegas Baby" and "Las Vegas" are each states of mind as well as being geographically defined locations. I can see that if I were to trek to Rincon it would be a disappointing trip in many respects but still an adventure in some. The geographical dispersal of gambling is having a great effect on just what casinos offer and what customers will accept.



I too was untempted due to geographical location, but that has changed. My tour operator is now offering me a junket to Rincon. Since I am primarily a craps player, if it turned out I did not like the game, it could be a 'crappy' trip for me. OTOH, how can going to San Diego for a few days have any bad connotations?
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February 19th, 2013 at 9:23:18 AM permalink
Quote: RaleighCraps

I too was untempted due to geographical location, but that has changed. My tour operator is now offering me a junket to Rincon. Since I am primarily a craps player, if it turned out I did not like the game, it could be a 'crappy' trip for me. OTOH, how can going to San Diego for a few days have any bad connotations?



Rincon's representation of its location in "San Diego", is similar to Casinos in Lake Tahoe representing themselves as "Reno/Tahoe", or Laughlin/Primm casinos advertised as "Las Vegas". It is inconveniently distanced, north and east of San Diego proper.
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RaleighCraps
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February 19th, 2013 at 9:25:57 AM permalink
Good info. Thanks for that tidbit.
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February 19th, 2013 at 9:28:15 AM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

What sidebets at Barona? I called Barona because I was told that with their card craps the cards are dealt face up one time for each shooter so you could actually see in advance what dice combinations you need to hit particular card values.

When I was talking to someone in the pit he said they had no fire bet and no hop bets and no exotic bets. so what side bets do they have?

Some folks at Rincon told me that PALA has some interesting jackpot bets. I was told if your dice show 1-1 and the cards show Ace-Ace that there is some kind of jackpot. I played card craps at Pala once several years ago but I don't recall any bet or jackpot like that.



You are right there are no exotic bets at the craps table, but this thread was originally started as a blackjack thread and i responded in that manner. In regards to blackjack they had some deal if I think the first two cards were of the same suit and a bad bust bet if you recieve a 20 and the dealer draws to 21.
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February 19th, 2013 at 9:42:50 AM permalink
Quote: RaleighCraps

I too was untempted due to geographical location, but that has changed. My tour operator is now offering me a junket to Rincon. Since I am primarily a craps player, if it turned out I did not like the game, it could be a 'crappy' trip for me. OTOH, how can going to San Diego for a few days have any bad connotations?



If you are primarily a craps player and want the dice to determine the final outcome then you need to get to either barona or sycuan. Those are the only two indian casinos that have a craps game where the final outcome is determined by the dice.

Harrah's rincon is a total scam they deal the cards face down so what am i doing rolling the dice why don't i just point my finger at a card after each roll they then deal a new set of cards.
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February 19th, 2013 at 10:03:00 AM permalink
Quote: RaleighCraps

I too was untempted due to geographical location, but that has changed. My tour operator is now offering me a junket to Rincon. Since I am primarily a craps player, if it turned out I did not like the game, it could be a 'crappy' trip for me. OTOH, how can going to San Diego for a few days have any bad connotations?

Well, it ain't really "San Diego"... junket operators care about your action at the client casino and don't want you traipsing all over town irrespective of whether its an easy traipse or a difficult one. If it turns out this California Card Craps is utterly not to your liking, you could still be in good standing with your junketeer by simply confessing that your low "action" level at Rincon was simply due to your viewpoint of card craps and that you still wish to be highly rated for other junkets to other destinations with real crap games. Junket operators won't be offended if you are honest with them and do all your gambling at the host casino.
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March 2nd, 2013 at 4:13:52 AM permalink
Quote: Yokeoh

Harrah's rincon is a total scam they deal the cards face down so what am i doing rolling the dice why don't i just point my finger at a card after each roll they then deal a new set of cards.



Scam is a bit harsh, but I agree. What's the point of giving the players two dice to roll?

Ironically the one time I shot there I hit five numbers on the fire bet. The floorman comes over to me and says "nice shooting." I look at him and I said "you're kidding. Nice shooting? Come on."

I even asked the stickman if I had to hit the back wall with the dice? I was standing stick right. "Why can't I just drop them in front of you and save everybody time and trouble?"

"No" was the answer. They still want the dice to hit the back wall. Which leads me to believe that they are hoping for and planning for the day when real casino dice will be legal in California. So, make the game look like the "real game" now so it will be easier to make the transition later.
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December 19th, 2016 at 2:53:32 PM permalink
I got a single issue of Current Blackjack News in April and just now noticed that Harrah's Rincon (Harrah's Southern California) has several double-deck blackjack tables with minimum bets starting at $5. Is this really true? (I see that most other double-deck blackjack games in the US are $25 minimum or higher.)
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January 1st, 2017 at 6:52:24 PM permalink
I know that, as of a few months ago, Pala and Pechanga (in the vicinity of Rincon) had 3:2 DD 25$ tables, with the former also allowing surrender. I don't think Rincon has it at the 5$ level, but there's usually a table at 15. (All three of them also have red-chip 6:5 single deck tables, if you wanted that for some reason.)

I'll be swinging down there in a few days, so I can give an up-to-date confirmation. (Note that it'll be a high-traffic [gift] day, so they may bump up the limits.)

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