How do I get in contact with a host?!?
and I don't see any place where I can email a host?
I'm trying to get in contact with one, because I'm going to do DIAD this weekend and I wanna set something up for Vegas for "Dead Week"
Any ideas?
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Quote: TIMSPEEDI'm looking on the Rio Las Vegas webpage...
and I don't see any place where I can email a host?
I'm trying to get in contact with one, because I'm going to do DIAD this weekend and I wanna set something up for Vegas for "Dead Week"
Any ideas?
If you have to ask, you haven't gambled enough.
Quote: AcesAndEightsIf you have to ask, you haven't gambled enough.
Not YET I haven't...lol
But on sunday, like I said, I'm going to get DIAD.
Quote: TIMSPEEDI'm looking on the Rio Las Vegas webpage...
and I don't see any place where I can email a host?
I'm trying to get in contact with one, because I'm going to do DIAD this weekend and I wanna set something up for Vegas for "Dead Week"
Any ideas?
Hey Tim.
First, good luck with this. I hope you get it. Please share your experience when you are done!
I've considered doing this. Can you tell us what you plan on playing, and at what limits? At some point this year, I will either do this, or just stick to MGM and take a shot at Noir.
(If anyone out there is Noir at MGM properties, I'd be interested in knowing what you play, at what limits, and how frequently. Feel free to PM me if you'd rather not publicize it)
Ohh trust me, I'll report back...
Quote: TIMSPEEDI plan on playing 25c multi-play 9/6 JoB...probably $5 a whack, maybe $10 a whack..
Ohh trust me, I'll report back...
That exists at a CET property in Vegas??? If so, you should point that out to VPFree. They say that the best 9/6 JoB they have at the Rio is $25/hand. 8/5 Bonus for $5/hand. The best game for quarters I am aware of is 7/5 Bonus w/Super Times Pay for any Vegas CET property.
Edit: at the Rio, it also says that the SF pays 239 for 5, so it lowers the $5 machine to 99.52%. $10/credit machine is full pay JoB.
CET doesn't care about you until you actually gamble there. All rewards granted to you are based on past play and longevity. Use your Total Rewards card or they will completely ignore you. (based on my past experiences only)Quote: TIMSPEEDNot YET I haven't...lol
But on sunday, like I said, I'm going to get DIAD.
Quote: s2dbakerCET doesn't care about you until you actually gamble there. All rewards granted to you are based on past play and longevity. Use your Total Rewards card or they will completely ignore you. (based on my past experiences only)
Are there any other properties where this is not the case? MGM didn't care about me until I started betting big and had a bad weekend...
Quote: AxiomOfChoiceAre there any other properties where this is not the case? MGM didn't care about me until I started betting big and had a bad weekend...
Not generally unless there are new, competing properties. CET definitely doesn't care about me and my 3000 Tier points for the year (Tim wants to attempt to earn in a day, unless DIAD moved to 4k). If it wasn't for the Race to Rewards, I wouldn't have much for comps at all.
Also, if you don't plan on being a loyal CET customer then there really is no value in achieving DIAD. The only perks would be cutting in lines and discounts at the gift shops. CET properties reward players based on the accumulation of tier credits; unless you are a high roller (of course).
Finally, choose a property where you want to receive Free Play and offers from. Although CET properties are linked, you will not receive offers from Caesars Palace (match play, cash back) unless you gamble there. Good luck Tim and please do report back on your journey!
Quote: DocIs DIAD plausible or even possible with table game play? With all the hocus-pocus involved in how many points you get from table game play, how would you even know how much play to give during the day?
This is pretty much what I'd like to know. From the previous threads on this discussion, I an guessing that it's not.
Corollary: Since 95% of my play is at the tables, I should avoid CET and stick to MGM properties.
Quote: AxiomOfChoiceThis is pretty much what I'd like to know. From the previous threads on this discussion, I an guessing that it's not.
Corollary: Since 95% of my play is at the tables, I should avoid CET and stick to MGM properties.
If you bet high enough/long enough, I'm thinking it could be done in theory, but at games like blackjack, it would have to be a longgggggg session (> 16 hours) of $100+ at the minimum (for a full table...it may go faster shorthanded). And 16 hrs of $100 bet BJ may a little short if I had to guess. And risking that on the human rate element to determine hand rate and average bet would also suck. Would it be worth your while playing at CET? Since they have no S17 double deck according to the Wizard's survey, I sorta doubt it. Diamond would give you some free show tickets, and a nice line cutter, but most things are still tied to ADT I think.
CET typically likes to cater to slot players more generously from what I hear/see. Also since their hotels are generally crappier, they are nicer to the low rollers/fairly generous on room comps in Vegas.
Quote: DocIs DIAD plausible or even possible with table game play? With all the hocus-pocus involved in how many points you get from table game play, how would you even know how much play to give during the day?
Definitely possible. My last time in Vegas I easily earned PIAD at Ballys via table games. DIAD is only 1k more tier credits I believe.
Its Dead Weak... a time in which real bargains exist all over town.
This was posted on Cyber Monday a time of 35 percent off room reservations.
If casinos do not treat you well.... vote with your feet... even with only two major owners in town they have to treat you right.
You want to do Diamond in a Day and they don't want to be helpful?
Quote: FleaStiffIts strange. Why are they not helpful?
Its Dead Weak... a time in which real bargains exist all over town.
This was posted on Cyber Monday a time of 35 percent off room reservations.
On Cyber Monday, I booked Imperial Palace/Quad at less than $14 per night! And that's the weekend rate! (Dec 20-24)
Quote: MakingBookOn Cyber Monday, I booked Imperial Palace/Quad at less than $14 per night! And that's the weekend rate! (Dec 20-24)
You overpaid, Sir.
Quote: tringlomaneIf you bet high enough/long enough, I'm thinking it could be done in theory, but at games like blackjack, it would have to be a longgggggg session (> 16 hours) of $100+ at the minimum (for a full table...it may go faster shorthanded). And 16 hrs of $100 bet BJ may a little short if I had to guess. And risking that on the human rate element to determine hand rate and average bet would also suck. Would it be worth your while playing at CET? Since they have no S17 double deck according to the Wizard's survey, I sorta doubt it. Diamond would give you some free show tickets, and a nice line cutter, but most things are still tied to ADT I think.
CET typically likes to cater to slot players more generously from what I hear/see. Also since their hotels are generally crappier, they are nicer to the low rollers/fairly generous on room comps in Vegas.
Someone here tried to do DIAD playing Blackjack a while back, and if I remember correctly, they failed/gave up because the casino was not forthcoming with him about how close he was getting, so he had no idea if he was close at all or not...
I may have made that up, but I'm pretty sure I remember reading it.
Quote: MakingBookOn Cyber Monday, I booked Imperial Palace/Quad at less than $14 per night! And that's the weekend rate! (Dec 20-24)
I booked Flamingo for $7.50 per night (12/21 - 12/24) last month...which I'm going to go with...but I'm going to TRY to get into Rio (large standard room).
Quote: AcesAndEightsSomeone here tried to do DIAD playing Blackjack a while back, and if I remember correctly, they failed/gave up because the casino was not forthcoming with him about how close he was getting, so he had no idea if he was close at all or not...
I may have made that up, but I'm pretty sure I remember reading it.
That sounds familiar too. If I was making a DIAD attempt on a table and they acted that way to me, I would have just got up, diddle around/play video poker for 10 minutes, then reinsert my TR card in any slot/video poker machine to see how my Tier Score changed that day.
Quote: TIMSPEEDI booked Flamingo for $7.50 per night (12/21 - 12/24) last month...which I'm going to go with...but I'm going to TRY to get into Rio (large standard room).
That's freaking awesome! How/where do you find a rate like that?
Quote: tringlomaneThat sounds familiar too. If I was making a DIAD attempt on a table and they acted that way to me, I would have just got up, diddle around/play video poker for 10 minutes, then reinsert my TR card in any slot/video poker machine to see how my Tier Score changed that day.
I don't think that would work - in my experience your account doesn't get credited for table game action in real time, even if they are using the electronic systems present at most casino pits these days.
Quote: MakingBookThat's freaking awesome! How/where do you find a rate like that?
Flamingo/Bally's were offering ridiculous rates last month over the "dead period", esp if you used a TR card to book it. I saw flamingo as low as $8/night at one point I think.
I'll be at Bally's Sunday thru Wed. at $15/night. Probably will try the "$20 trick" to upgrade though.
Quote: AcesAndEightsI don't think that would work - in my experience your account doesn't get credited for table game action in real time, even if they are using the electronic systems present at most casino pits these days.
I dunno about tables since I don't play them a lot, but at live poker is usually credited to your account within minutes. Tables may be more delayed though since it is the pit boss who has to notice you left. In poker, the dealer immediately punches you in/out.
Quote: TIMSPEEDI'm going to do DIAD this weekend
please check the correct box :
DIAD Done in A Day
DIAD Drum Information Assembler/Dispatcher
DIAD Diisopropyl azo dicarboxylate
DIAD Destruction of Integrated Air Defense
DIAD DoN (Department of the Navy) Integrated Architecture Database
DIAD Detection of Ischemia in Asymptomatic Diabetics (clinical study)
DIAD DIrectory ADvertising (Polylogics Consulting, Inc. software)
DIAD Delivery Information Acquisition Device (UPS)
DIAD Dépannage Informatique a Domicile (French: Troubleshooting Home Computer)
DIAD DMS (Defense Message System) Integrated Architectural Database
from: http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/DIAD
Quote: TIMSPEEDWell, I heard back from a host...obviously he wanted my info...which is pointless right NOW...I told him I'd get in contact with him on Monday..once I REACH Diamond....(so at least he doesn't think I'm just trying to scam a free room)
I say, give the host your info, and ask any questions you have about the promo. If he offers you a free or discounted room, great. Probably they will want to base it on your level of play, but you never know. If the rooms are that cheap at this time it might cost marketing very little to give it to you so it might be worth the risk to him.
Quote: AxiomOfChoiceI say, give the host your info, and ask any questions you have about the promo. If he offers you a free or discounted room, great. Probably they will want to base it on your level of play, but you never know. If the rooms are that cheap at this time it might cost marketing very little to give it to you so it might be worth the risk to him.
I have basically NO level of play (I have 392 RC for the entire year; and I think 8 "tier" points)
I dunno though...with $8 per night rooms...even IF they're at Flamingo..it's hard to want to drop $30k coin-in (probably have a REAL WORLD loss of $300) in order to stay at Rio....but I really do like Rio, lol...
Quote: AcesAndEightsI don't think that would work - in my experience your account doesn't get credited for table game action in real time, even if they are using the electronic systems present at most casino pits these days.
You just have to politely ask them to enter your play as you leave the table. At the Rio they will always accomodate you. I don't think they will award your credits while you are still playing.
Quote: tringlomaneI'll be at Bally's Sunday thru Wed. at $15/night. Probably will try the "$20 trick" to upgrade though.
I'm at Bally's (Mon-Thu) for $15 per night. I may try the $20 trick- first time for me.
Quote: TIMSPEEDI have basically NO level of play (I have 392 RC for the entire year; and I think 8 "tier" points)
I dunno though...with $8 per night rooms...even IF they're at Flamingo..it's hard to want to drop $30k coin-in (probably have a REAL WORLD loss of $300) in order to stay at Rio....but I really do like Rio, lol...
You might as well try. "Hi Miss Rio host- I am trying to find a casino that will comp me room upfront, and other stuff once you see my play. I am planning on putting $30,000 through your machines in a single day. Can you make this happen?"
Quote: SOOPOOYou might as well try. "Hi Miss Rio host- I am trying to find a casino that will comp me room upfront, and other stuff once you see my play. I am planning on putting $30,000 through your machines in a single day. Can you make this happen?"
I almost said those exact words...
The host seemed accomodating...but I just don't want to blow smoke up his ass...I want to put the action in before really talking..at least then I have a bargaining chip...
Quote: MakingBookI'm at Bally's (Mon-Thu) for $15 per night. I may try the $20 trick- first time for me.
Hey, I had a free (don't ask me how!) stay at Palazzo back in September...the $20 trick worked like a charm (even THERE!) and I was upgraded to a "Strip View" room...
Quote: SOOPOOYou might as well try. "Hi Miss Rio host- I am trying to find a casino that will comp me room upfront, and other stuff once you see my play. I am planning on putting $30,000 through your machines in a single day. Can you make this happen?"
Do people seem to get more when they are comped ahead of time? Is it that much different than having it comped in the end? I don't play enough really to know. But I'm staying at Rio Saturday night for $50 with no comp offer (just the cyber monday promo), so they obviously should be giving Tim the room for free if he does DIAD.
Quote: TIMSPEEDI almost said those exact words...
The host seemed accomodating...but I just don't want to blow smoke up his ass...I want to put the action in before really talking..at least then I have a bargaining chip...
I didn't say that you had to ask for anything. Here is how I would approach it:
I would say, "Hi, I have never really played much at your casino before, but I am considering switching over. I had heard about this DIAD promotion that you have, and it sounds like a good way to get started. Can you give me details?"
Then listen to him describe it. This will clear up any misunderstandings (if any) that you might have about the promotion. Ask about start times and end times, if you're not sure (ie, when does a "day" start and end?). Ask any other questions you have. Then say, ok, thanks, I am planning on doing it on such and such a day.
Don't ask for anything. You haven't played yet, so you're not really in a position to ask for anything anyway. When he hears that you are doing it during a dead time when they have tons of rooms, he MAY offer you a free room. It doesn't cost him much if they only charge marketing (say) $20 for the room, and it would be worth his while to get you on his account if you really do play that much that day (he wants you as "his customer" before you play, not after). So, he may think it's worth the risk, since, at the very worst case, his account is down $20, which he probably doesn't care about. If he doesn't offer, book the room yourself, and go and play anyway. Charge food, etc, to the room, and go see him when you are done -- you should be able to get everything comped off.
Quote: DocIs DIAD plausible or even possible with table game play? With all the hocus-pocus involved in how many points you get from table game play, how would you even know how much play to give during the day?
In 2009, DIAD was 3,500 tier points. As near as I could ever find out, the 24 hour period ran from 4 AM to 4 AM, but I could never get that verified by anyone.
At the RIO one weekend in 2009, I did 3,300 points in one day, playing only craps.
At that time, I was buying in for about $1000, and I was betting $90 inside, with a first hit press to $180 inside, and a second hit press to $270 inside.
I had some wild swings that day, up over 3Gs at one point, then down 1K, back up 2K, and then down almost 3K, before a late run got me back to even.
So, DIAD is definitely possible on a table game, but you need to have some good luck up front so that you are playing on house money for a long time.
However, as has already been noted, if you are not going to CET properties A LOT, there is no advantage to Diamond. In Vegas, it is nice to have Diamond, and get to jump to the front of the food lines, but that is about the extent of the advantages. At RIO, you can also use a free computer in the Diamond Lounge to print boarding passes.....
Quote: tringlomaneThat sounds familiar too. If I was making a DIAD attempt on a table and they acted that way to me, I would have just got up, diddle around/play video poker for 10 minutes, then reinsert my TR card in any slot/video poker machine to see how my Tier Score changed that day.
Table games are not posted to your account until set times, but that is another item they would never disclose. At one point, I felt it was happening a couple of hours AFTER the shift change, but I was never able to confirm that either.
I do know if you ask the new floor manager what your rating is right after they have done a shift change, you will be told they don't know what you were previously rated, as the prior manager closed you out. I am pretty sure it is sometime after that your rating gets updated in the system.
Quote: RaleighCrapsTable games are not posted to your account until set times, but that is another item they would never disclose. At one point, I felt it was happening a couple of hours AFTER the shift change, but I was never able to confirm that either.
I do know if you ask the new floor manager what your rating is right after they have done a shift change, you will be told they don't know what you were previously rated, as the prior manager closed you out. I am pretty sure it is sometime after that your rating gets updated in the system.
Yeah...if it is mass loaded for every pitboss shift, then you obv couldn't do what I would suggest. Poker's system is clearly different than table games. And I personally would hate to do something like DIAD and not clearly know where I stood.
I got that for 5 nights during the Super Bowl weekend as a backup room. I'm actually staying at The Flamingo but my father has this annoying habit of throwing the lock on the door and then going to sleep like a rock thus the backup room.Quote: MakingBookOn Cyber Monday, I booked Imperial Palace/Quad at less than $14 per night! And that's the weekend rate! (Dec 20-24)
Quote: odiousgambitplease check the correct box :
DIAD Done in A Day
DIAD Drum Information Assembler/Dispatcher
DIAD Diisopropyl azo dicarboxylate
DIAD Destruction of Integrated Air Defense
DIAD DoN (Department of the Navy) Integrated Architecture Database
DIAD Detection of Ischemia in Asymptomatic Diabetics (clinical study)
DIAD DIrectory ADvertising (Polylogics Consulting, Inc. software)
DIAD Delivery Information Acquisition Device (UPS)
DIAD Dépannage Informatique a Domicile (French: Troubleshooting Home Computer)
DIAD DMS (Defense Message System) Integrated Architectural Database
This was my smart-ass way of asking WTF is DIAD?
CET's way of getting a new player who plays at a higher level, straight into the Diamond level.
I think it takes 11,000 tier points now to get to Diamond level. So a new player would start out as a Gold player, same as anyone who feeds the penny slot for 1 line at a time.
After a weekend of spending a couple of G's, this new player may be at the platinum level, but that is still not much of a perk, for a player who is obviously more valued than that. So instead of making that person gamble 3 more times at the high level to finally get to Diamond, CET says if you get 3,500 tier points in ONE day, then your level of play is high enough that we will give you Diamond status now, and expect you will qualify for it anyway during the rest of the year.
Quote: RaleighCrapsDiamond In A Day
thanks!
Quote: WoldusHaven't heard about the $20 trick. Anyone interested in a quick description? Thanks.
The $20 trick or sandwich as it is sometimes called is slipping a twenty between your ID and your credit card and asking if there are any complimentary upgrades at the time you check in. Some say it works and others say that an upgrade can be gotten just for asking nicely. If it doesn't work the $20 is usually returned so there's little risk. Google $20 trick and you'll find dozens of pages on it.
Do you want to use some of my room offers? I think I have more than I can use, including Cosmopolitan if you want to stay there. (I'll give you a discount lol)
The amount of time I waited in line at the "Quad" to collect free slot play this trip made me wish I earned 1000 more Tier this year to be part of the "Platinum/Diamond" line.
At least I was still able to get an IP poker chip though. All changes for the casino name are due by the 21st.
Quote: tringlomane... At least I was still able to get an IP poker chip though. All changes for the casino name are due by the 21st.
Are you suggesting that The Quad chips will be in play by the 21st of this month? No such chips had been approved as of the November report issued by the NGCB on 12/3/2012.
The Quad is on my list of chips to get, and I hope I can pick up one if I make it to WoVCon ]I[ in June, but I wouldn't expect any to be in play for at least a couple more months from now.
