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Ayecarumba
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October 17th, 2012 at 12:57:14 PM permalink
Caesars runs this PSA during the World Series of Poker coverage on ESPN. In it, one of the "employees" states, "You shouldn't gamble if you are lonely or depressed". "Depressed", I can understand, but, "lonely"? I think a major reason many folks come to the casino is to enjoy the energy and excitement of gambling with others. If the casino was empty of customers, the lonely would seek out others someplace else.

Therefore, I am not clear how "lonely" = problem gambler.

Do you agree that if you are, "lonely", you should refrain from gambling?
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EvenBob
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October 17th, 2012 at 12:59:51 PM permalink
Whats the difference? Is the house edge
differnt if you feed a slot when you're lonely?
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October 17th, 2012 at 1:07:28 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Whats the difference? Is the house edge
differnt if you feed a slot when you're lonely?



C "Mon Bob, the machine feels sorry for you and pays off more often when you are sad. Thats why Caesars doesn't want you to gamble then. :)
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October 17th, 2012 at 1:12:07 PM permalink
Just as there is a difference between "depressed" and "clinical depression", there is a difference between "being alone" and "lonely".

I do think that the line in that PSA was referring to the latter in both cases.
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October 17th, 2012 at 1:13:41 PM permalink
Quote: vendman1

C "Mon Bob, the machine feels sorry for you and pays off more often when you are sad. Thats why Caesars doesn't want you to gamble then. :)



If Caesars doesn't want you to play when you're
lonely, it means you'll quit too soon and leave. They
want a happy player who'll sit there for hours.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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October 17th, 2012 at 1:15:20 PM permalink
and further on that PSA...I LOVE to play when I've had too much to drink!
Gambling calls to me...like this ~> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nap37mNSmQ
Ayecarumba
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October 17th, 2012 at 1:25:29 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Just as there is a difference between "depressed" and "clinical depression", there is a difference between "being alone" and "lonely".

I do think that the line in that PSA was referring to the latter in both cases.



I'm not sure what you are getting at DJ. How does "lonely" = problem gambler? I think that feeling lonely is one of the main reasons folks go to places where there are other people. I am not sure how wanting to be around other people equates to, "don't gamble, you are impaired".
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October 17th, 2012 at 3:36:35 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba


Do you agree that if you are, "lonely", you should refrain from gambling?



What the f*ck? there are some days when gambling is the only thing that causes me to actually talk to another person. If Caesars doesn't want me to do that at their casinos, I guess I can just go to Valley Forge. It's closer anyway...
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October 17th, 2012 at 3:42:42 PM permalink
It makes perfect sense to me.
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October 17th, 2012 at 3:54:52 PM permalink
I don't see why you shouldn't gamble because you're lonely... it seems a good way to get out of the house. What, are you more likely to overbet your bankroll if you're lonely?
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rainman
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October 17th, 2012 at 4:02:14 PM permalink
This ad is clearly a marketing ploy to project a kind caring image for the casino. nothing more.
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October 17th, 2012 at 4:22:28 PM permalink
Maybe it's a clever backhanded ploy: Bring a friend!!
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October 17th, 2012 at 4:34:24 PM permalink
Given dictionary.com's first definition of "lonely", CET is right.

1. affected with, characterized by, or causing a depressing feeling of being alone; lonesome.

lonely doesn't have to be related to "depressed", but its most common definition is.

I like rdw's idea of it being a backhanded ploy though. :)
rainman
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October 17th, 2012 at 4:39:12 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

Maybe it's a clever backhanded ploy: Bring a friend!!



LOL I didn't see that angle.
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October 17th, 2012 at 5:32:26 PM permalink
Quote: rainman

This ad is clearly a marketing ploy to project a kind caring image for the casino. nothing more.



Of course - such a slimy, underhanded tactic as putting out a PSA to bolster PR could only be the work of Ṭ̜͂ĥ̲̱͖͓̔̒ė̪͎͇ ̼̰̹͚̮̆̋ͨͫ̅̇ͅC̖̜̟̮̮͓͛̍ͯ̋͝ȧ͕̻̤̘̠̜̹̊̓̂͌̃s̙̹̥̪̈́ͪ̾ͅi͖n̶̫͚͙͈̤͚̋̈ͧ͑o͍̔!

(Not really the point, though.)
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October 17th, 2012 at 6:22:57 PM permalink
Quote: 24Bingo

Of course - such a slimy, underhanded tactic as putting out a PSA to bolster PR could only be the work of Ṭ̜͂ĥ̲̱͖͓̔̒ė̪͎͇ ̼̰̹͚̮̆̋ͨͫ̅̇ͅC̖̜̟̮̮͓͛̍ͯ̋͝ȧ͕̻̤̘̠̜̹̊̓̂͌̃s̙̹̥̪̈́ͪ̾ͅi͖n̶̫͚͙͈̤͚̋̈ͧ͑o͍̔!

(Not really the point, though.)



I didn't say it was slimy or under handed. Just pointing out the ad is self serving. I don't think managements having meetings over poor lonely vulnerable gamblers.
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October 17th, 2012 at 6:28:17 PM permalink
My guess would be the wording comes from some government shrink, not the PR people, though.
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October 17th, 2012 at 6:31:29 PM permalink
mmmmmm. I could see that as a possibility.
DJTeddyBear
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October 17th, 2012 at 6:42:17 PM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

Given dictionary.com's first definition of "lonely", CET is right.

1. affected with, characterized by, or causing a depressing feeling of being alone; lonesome.


Thank you.
That's what I was trying to say in my post on page 1:

Quote: DJTeddyBear

Just as there is a difference between "depressed" and "clinical depression", there is a difference between "being alone" and "lonely".

I do think that the line in that PSA was referring to the latter in both cases.

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October 17th, 2012 at 7:27:08 PM permalink
I was at Harrah's Reno during Columbus Day weekend and they have this PSA playing repeatedly on one of the TV channels in the hotel room.
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October 17th, 2012 at 7:49:41 PM permalink
This is a CYA PSA. It smells like it was some lawyer's idea.
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October 17th, 2012 at 8:13:51 PM permalink
Quote: MikeV

I was at Harrah's Reno during Columbus Day weekend and they have this PSA playing repeatedly on one of the TV channels in the hotel room.



Just that PSA? And not included with the impersonator that teaches you how to play all the table games, or something else about the property?

CET...No, No, No!!
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October 17th, 2012 at 9:28:01 PM permalink
Mr. Lonely
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EvenBob
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October 17th, 2012 at 9:47:41 PM permalink
This lonely woman is not allowed at Caesars.

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October 17th, 2012 at 10:19:19 PM permalink
She's leaving Vegas, CET probably doesn't give a damn. True addicts start playing at the airport when they get there!! :D

But speaking of McCarran Airport, last trip leaving *trigger lonely feeling*, I got back to back quads for the first time ever on a TB+ machine. "Airport Deuces" certainly doesn't exist anymore though. :P
EvenBob
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October 17th, 2012 at 10:32:34 PM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

She's leaving Vegas, CET probably doesn't give a damn.



You don't know she's leaving, maybe she just got
there. My wife won $1200 at the airport slots once
10min after we got off the plane.
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DJTeddyBear
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October 18th, 2012 at 3:22:19 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

This lonely woman is not allowed at Caesars.


How do you know she's lonely?
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October 18th, 2012 at 5:06:09 AM permalink
That lonely bullshit comes right out of the 12 step universe.
They always tell their victims they shouldn' t drink/ use drugs/ gamble/ shop at certain critical times.
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October 18th, 2012 at 5:18:23 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

This lonely woman is not allowed at Caesars.



That's why she's gambling at the airport or car rental center. McCarran doesn't give a crap about your emotional status. LOL.



Gamblers Anon presses the Nevada Gaming Commission, NGC asks Casino operators to appease (or at least look like they are) and viola voila...a PSA for responsible gaming is born. CET image improves. Everyone's a winner.
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October 18th, 2012 at 5:22:07 AM permalink
Voila'...see there (French)
Viola...stringed instrument.
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NickyDim
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October 18th, 2012 at 5:26:49 AM permalink
Quote: WongBo

Voila'...see there (French)
Viola...stringed instrument.



Thanks you beat me to it. It's corrected. You are quick, faster than looking it up on Google
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October 18th, 2012 at 5:50:25 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

This lonely woman is not allowed at Caesars.



Who knew that Nancy Grace played the slots????

Also...Gary Loveman's voice tilts me hard. It always sounds like he has a massive head cold.
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October 18th, 2012 at 9:07:54 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

This lonely woman is not allowed at Caesars.



Nah--the others are just smart enough to avoid the airport slots. She's precisely Caesars' target customer--someone who'll play their low returns!
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October 18th, 2012 at 9:15:07 AM permalink
I think the person in the pic is EvenBob
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