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May 22nd, 2017 at 4:27:21 PM permalink
On April fools vegas bright ran an article saying they were going to close the fountains and replace them with shopping.

Robin leach now has an article saying the same thing. We all know how horrible Robin Leach is with getting stories right but I thought I would put it out there.

http://robinleach.reviewjournal.com/article/bellagio-fountains-to-close-after-drakes-billboard-music-awards-performance/


I am not being as gullible as my last thread about rounders 2, I am just passing along a "news" story.
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May 22nd, 2017 at 4:34:22 PM permalink
My guess: No chance. I bet they're still paying them off.
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May 22nd, 2017 at 5:22:03 PM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

My guess: No chance. I bet they're still paying them off.

I agree. The properties across the street have even been remodeled to make sure sight lines to the fountain will allow them to charge more for their rooms with a "view".
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May 22nd, 2017 at 6:07:45 PM permalink
Doesn't the water from the "O" stage drain into the lagoon of the fountain?

If they get rid of the fountain, seems like they'd have to get rid of "O" - which doesn't seem likely.
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May 22nd, 2017 at 6:11:54 PM permalink
Juturna would never allow such: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juturna
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May 22nd, 2017 at 6:37:42 PM permalink
That would be a very, very stupid move, as it would pretty much eliminate the view of the Bellagio from the sidewalk / roadway.

Same thing with Caesars wanting to do something with their roadside properties: any new construction, especially of multi-level shopping venues, will impair the view of the property.
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May 22nd, 2017 at 6:39:50 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

I agree. The properties across the street have even been remodeled to make sure sight lines to the fountain will allow them to charge more for their rooms with a "view".

I doubt that MGM is concerned with the sight lines at a Caesars property...
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May 22nd, 2017 at 6:43:52 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

I doubt that MGM is concerned with the sight lines at a Caesars property...



That actually seems like more of a reason to do it they have a show that beings mgm no money but the neighboring properties make a boat load of extra cash.

Maybe they want this public in hopes that either the city or other properties will pony up some cash for them to keep them.
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May 22nd, 2017 at 7:00:40 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

I doubt that MGM is concerned with the sight lines at a Caesars property...



And don't forget Cosmo advertises the rooms as premium.

But I still do not see them going away, although Ballys has shown everyone how NOT to do a shopping area.
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May 22nd, 2017 at 9:17:53 PM permalink
Only scenario I can see is if they are becoming impossibly expensive to maintain.

Every video montage ever made of Vegas includes the fountains, I feel like it would be like Luxor deciding they actually wanted a rectangular building.
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May 23rd, 2017 at 2:45:35 AM permalink
Quote: Boz

And don't forget Cosmo advertises the rooms as premium.

But I still do not see them going away, although Ballys has shown everyone how NOT to do a shopping area.



What's wrong with a shopping area underground that no one knows about?
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May 23rd, 2017 at 3:54:04 AM permalink
I was never impressed with them fountains anyways.
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May 23rd, 2017 at 4:17:45 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE

What's wrong with a shopping area underground that no one knows about?



I was thinking more about the new shops out front that are half empty or selling junk. But yea, I too forgot about the basement ones. Great decision putting a sports book there too.
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May 23rd, 2017 at 6:11:07 AM permalink
MGM has come out and denied this rumor.

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May 23rd, 2017 at 6:19:53 AM permalink
Quote: Boz

Great decision putting a sports book there too.



but think of all the people they get from the monorail.
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May 23rd, 2017 at 6:23:50 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE

but think of all the people they get from the monorail.



I'm a frequent monorail user. The only reason I know what is down in that area is because I walk through there often to get to it. If there was no monorail, I'd have no clue Ballys even has a sportsbook.
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May 23rd, 2017 at 9:14:17 AM permalink
Whether its a lagoon, a fountain, a set of choreographed water canons, a volcano, a flock of flamingoes, an animatronic laden garden area, people come to see it. Now they may stay at other hotels but atleast they will visit the attraction laden hotel. The guy who runs those water canon has a secure job. The Luxor of long ago made a mistake when it de-Egyptianized itself and became a hotel with strange elevators/escalators and that started its downward trend.
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May 23rd, 2017 at 1:14:06 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

I'm a frequent monorail user. The only reason I know what is down in that area is because I walk through there often to get to it. If there was no monorail, I'd have no clue Ballys even has a sportsbook.



Me too. We stayed in Paris last year and used monorail multiple times a day. I am not sure I saw more than 10 people in the food court and sportsbook.
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May 23rd, 2017 at 2:21:38 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

Me too. We stayed in Paris last year and used monorail multiple times a day. I am not sure I saw more than 10 people in the food court and sportsbook.



Yea but it's a great shortcut to Stage Door and Ellis Island.
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May 23rd, 2017 at 3:29:55 PM permalink
The actuaries for the Bellagio/MGM have determined that the fountains cost too much money and that more money could be made by turning the area into additional paid parking.

Meanwhile, I've also heard that the commission structure is set increase on Baccarat because the actuaries have determined that the Asian players are not playing enough and/or paying their fair share... since they "sleep at the slot machines" rather than paying money for rooms. The commission increase will start when they double the cost for parking.
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May 23rd, 2017 at 3:40:40 PM permalink
http://www.ktnv.com/news/mgm-resorts-international-shuts-down-rumors-of-bellagio-fountains-going-away

They actually had to release a statement. Why does the review journal even let robin leach write for them? I am not sure he has had any credible breaking stories.
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May 23rd, 2017 at 3:47:52 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

http://www.ktnv.com/news/mgm-resorts-international-shuts-down-rumors-of-bellagio-fountains-going-away

They actually had to release a statement. Why does the review journal even let robin leach write for them? I am not sure he has had any credible breaking stories.



Only clicks mater.

Well, getting free links from relevant websites helps too.

Is this the same guy from lifestyles of the rich and famous?
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May 23rd, 2017 at 3:56:39 PM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

Only clicks mater.

Well, getting free links from relevant websites helps too.

Is this the same guy from lifestyles of the rich and famous?



Yep it sure is. He is in his 70s. I loved that show growing up.
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May 23rd, 2017 at 4:52:02 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

Yep it sure is. He is in his 70s. I loved that show growing up.



Christ he looked like he was in his 70's in the 80's.
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May 23rd, 2017 at 5:52:31 PM permalink
Quote: Keyser

The actuaries for the Bellagio/MGM have determined that the fountains cost too much money and that more money could be made by turning the area into additional paid parking.



Hmm. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWwUJH70ubM
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May 23rd, 2017 at 6:01:48 PM permalink
Quote: Boz

Christ he looked like he was in his 70's in the 80's.



When I saw his article a few years ago I had to look up to see if it was him. I figured he would be dead by now. I was shocked to see he was late 40s when he did that show. He must have had a hard life.
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May 23rd, 2017 at 7:44:40 PM permalink
Quote: Keyser

The actuaries for the Bellagio/MGM have determined that the fountains cost too much money and that more money could be made by turning the area into additional paid parking.



Actuaries do a lot of things.... but this wouldn't be one of them.
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May 23rd, 2017 at 7:51:27 PM permalink
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Actuaries do a lot of things.... but this wouldn't be one of them.



Perhaps not on your planet.
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