Meaning, I usually observed a maximum of 10% difference from their actual probability between the RED and BLACK outcomes.

e.g. For European roulette wheel with single zero. Highest difference is at most close to +/- 11% from their actual probability of 48.64%(18 out of 37):

with RED % at 40% (- 8.4% less than actual probability) and BLACK at 60% (+11.36% more than actual probability)

OR RED % at 60%(+11.36% more than actual probability) and BLACK at 40% (- 8.4% less than actual probability)

Some questions related to this:

1. What is the mathematical calculation of arriving at these maximum/minimum disparity, given the 48.64% probability? Can the same calculation be applied to let's say I bet 30 out of 37 numbers (81.08%)?

2. Compared to the other even money bets (ODD/EVEN), the RED and BLACK seems to be most consistent, is this because of how they are equally situated in the wheel? Or their positions doesn't impact the disparity of % of outcomes?

RED/BLACK - Alternate positions equally positioned in the wheel (0, 32-R, 15-B, 19-R, 4-B, 21-R, 2-B, 25-R, 17-B, 34-R, 6-B, 27-R, 13-B, 36-R, etc..)

vs ODD/EVEN - Distributed inconsistently across the wheel, from zero clockwise (0, 32-even, 15-odd, 19-odd, 4-even, 21-odd, 2-even, 25-odd, 17-odd, 34-even, 6-even, 27-odd, 13-odd, 36-even, etc.).

3. Related to #2, If the observation is valid, does it merit more consistent 'patterns' for RED/BLACK vs ODD/EVEN bets given they have the same probability of outcome at 48.64%?

Thank you for your feedback.

Quote:poli2k01Hi Gaming enthusiasts and Math Gurus, I've observed on the roulette statistics for the "Even money" bets, the RED and BLACK % are the most consistent.

I do not find this to be true. Red and black, high and low, odd and even are just identities that we give the numbers. They are laid out somewhat fairly on every roulette wheel and on a wheel that is not compromised you get a truly random outcome so there shouldn't be any difference between any of the even chance bets. People pay more attention to red and black because they stand out on the electronic board but in reality I don't find any difference in any of the even chances. If there is a difference it's so small that it makes no difference.

Quote:poli2k01

Meaning, I usually observed a maximum of 10% difference from their actual probability between the RED and BLACK outcomes.

You must have forgotten to note down the disparity after one spin, where you probably got 100% of one colour and 0% of the other, for a disparity from expectation of 51.36%

As you add more spins, the percentage disparity will approach 0%.

Quote:

e.g. For European roulette wheel with single zero. Highest difference is at most close to +/- 11% from their actual probability of 48.64%(18 out of 37):

Quote:1. What is the mathematical calculation of arriving at these maximum/minimum disparity, given the 48.64% probability? Can the same calculation be applied to let's say I bet 30 out of 37 numbers (81.08%)?

Ah. are you measuring this disparity at 37 spins? You are dealing with probabilities and random events. You could spin 37 times and get 37 reds for highest maximum difference of 51.36. Someone could graph or tabulate the most probable, typical disparity, but it is not a maximum.

Your observation is flawed. Red/black: Odd/even: High/low. Same probabilities and maths apply.Quote:

2. Compared to the other even money bets (ODD/EVEN), the RED and BLACK seems to be most consistent, is this because of how they are equally situated in the wheel? Or their positions doesn't impact the disparity of % of outcomes?

RED/BLACK - Alternate positions equally positioned in the wheel (0, 32-R, 15-B, 19-R, 4-B, 21-R, 2-B, 25-R, 17-B, 34-R, 6-B, 27-R, 13-B, 36-R, etc..)

vs ODD/EVEN - Distributed inconsistently across the wheel, from zero clockwise (0, 32-even, 15-odd, 19-odd, 4-even, 21-odd, 2-even, 25-odd, 17-odd, 34-even, 6-even, 27-odd, 13-odd, 36-even, etc.).

3. Related to #2, If the observation is valid, does it merit more consistent 'patterns' for RED/BLACK vs ODD/EVEN bets given they have the same probability of outcome at 48.64%?'it isn't , so moot.

Quote:

Thank you for your feedback.

link to original post

Quote:poli2k01My assumption is minimum of 100 spins here. But regardless, if it's 100, 200, or 500, RED/BLACK seemed to be the most balanced.

link to original post

‘Seem to be’

Roulette is a pretty easy game to figure out.

Odd/Even will have the EXACT SAME chance of being ‘balanced’ as Red/Black.

You have to eliminate any specific short term examples that erroneously lead you to a ‘seem to be’ conclusion.

Your main question can be answered by an understanding of statistical principles, most notably variance and standard deviation.

My main question to YOU is this…. Why do you care about how ‘balanced’ a bet is?

There is no Maximum disparity. They could still all be red. BUT, obviously, there's a range of disparity which is most probable. Maybe a maths guy will enlighten us. I believe it will include some calculus which is not my forte.Quote:poli2k01Thanks for your feedback. Assuming I'm looking at 100 spins as a single 'unit' to measure disparity for the even money bets. How do you mathematically compute the maximum disparity of that? is 40% vs 60% (20% difference) the maximum difference between the two?

link to original post

Red Black: Odd Even: High Low. Makes ZERO difference. If you are perceiving something different with Red Black, then your perception is flawed.

Sorry I can't be too bothered to help more. I can't help feeling you see value in this knowledge. I start at the premise that there is none, in as much you won't learn anything to beat the house edge.

Paragraph 3: Standard Deviation gives your answer

Now 50 units would be 1,200 / 2,500 = 48%, OR 1,300 / 2,500 = 52% ;

100 units would be 1,150 / 2,500 = 46%; OR 1,350 / 2,500 = 54%

and 150 units would be 1,100 / 2,500 = 44%, OR 1,400 / 2,500 = 56%

to be up or down 10% would be +/- 250 units or ~5 SD.

I omitted 0's because I can't count today.

Quote:OnceDearhttps://www.roulettestar.com/guide/mathematics/

Paragraph 3: Standard Deviation gives your answer

link to original post

OnceDear,

You may need to check the accuracy of the claims made there. For example, below is the calculation for the probability of winning on at least one "red" bet in two spins:

Quote:3. What's the probability of winning on any spin?

Probability of winning on any spin

Instead of working out the probability of winning on one spin and another, we can also work out the probability of winning on one spin or another (notice the difference).

We do this by adding individual probabilities together:

18/37 + 18/37 = 0.97297

So in other words, we have a 97.3% chance of winning at least once when betting on red over the course of two spins. We don't care to win both, we just want to know the probability of winning on one spin or the other.

By this logic, the probability of winning at least one "red" bet over three spins is 18/37 + 18/37 + 18/37 = 54/37 = 1.4595..., or about 145.95%. This is clearly nonsense, since it implies that the probability of three "non-red" (black or green) spins in a row is 100% - 145.95% = -45.95%.

In fact, the probability of three consecutive non-red spins is (19/37)³ = 0.1354..., or about 13.54%, so the probability of at least one red over three spins is 1 - (19/37)³ = 0.8646..., or about 86.46%.

To answer the quoted problem correctly, the probability of at least one red over two spins is 1 - (19/37)² = 0.7363..., or about 73.63%, which is nowhere near the quoted result of 97.3%

Dog Hand

I wasn't referring to that paragraph, which seems totally rubbish, but the section number 3 Standard deviation, much lower downQuote:DogHandQuote:OnceDearhttps://www.roulettestar.com/guide/mathematics/

Paragraph 3: Standard Deviation gives your answer

link to original post

OnceDear,

You may need to check the accuracy of the claims made there. For example, below is the calculation for the probability of winning on at least one "red" bet in two spins:Quote:3. What's the probability of winning on any spin?

Probability of winning on any spin

Instead of working out the probability of winning on one spin and another, we can also work out the probability of winning on one spin or another (notice the difference).

We do this by adding individual probabilities together:

18/37 + 18/37 = 0.97297

So in other words, we have a 97.3% chance of winning at least once when betting on red over the course of two spins. We don't care to win both, we just want to know the probability of winning on one spin or the other.

By this logic, the probability of winning at least one "red" bet over three spins is 18/37 + 18/37 + 18/37 = 54/37 = 1.4595..., or about 145.95%. This is clearly nonsense, since it implies that the probability of three "non-red" (black or green) spins in a row is 100% - 145.95% = -45.95%.

In fact, the probability of three consecutive non-red spins is (19/37)³ = 0.1354..., or about 13.54%, so the probability of at least one red over three spins is 1 - (19/37)³ = 0.8646..., or about 86.46%.

To answer the quoted problem correctly, the probability of at least one red over two spins is 1 - (19/37)² = 0.7363..., or about 73.63%, which is nowhere near the quoted result of 97.3%

Dog Hand

link to original post

You should learn to use the BINOMDIST function in a spreadsheet to create your own graphs of these distributions. You will learn a lot. Every question that you asked and more can be answered precisely using BINOMDIST. For example, =BINOMDIST(45,100,0.5,0) will give the probability of getting 45 heads when flipping a coin 100 times. Likewise, =BINOMDIST(40,100,18/38,0) will give the probability of hitting 40 reds or 40 evens in 100 spins of roulette. Red, black, even, and odd have the same probability distributions. If you know how to graph, you can make nice graphs of the probability distributions around the mean value. Just make a column in the spreadsheet with the range of numbers that you want to explore. Then, have the formula refer to the number in this column, for example =BINOMDIST(A1,100,18/38,0).Quote:poli2k01Hi Gaming enthusiasts and Math Gurus, I've observed on the roulette statistics for the "Even money" bets, the RED and BLACK % are the most consistent.

Meaning, I usually observed a maximum of 10% difference from their actual probability between the RED and BLACK outcomes.

e.g. For European roulette wheel with single zero. Highest difference is at most close to +/- 11% from their actual probability of 48.64%(18 out of 37):

with RED % at 40% (- 8.4% less than actual probability) and BLACK at 60% (+11.36% more than actual probability)

OR RED % at 60%(+11.36% more than actual probability) and BLACK at 40% (- 8.4% less than actual probability)

Some questions related to this:

1. What is the mathematical calculation of arriving at these maximum/minimum disparity, given the 48.64% probability? Can the same calculation be applied to let's say I bet 30 out of 37 numbers (81.08%)?

2. Compared to the other even money bets (ODD/EVEN), the RED and BLACK seems to be most consistent, is this because of how they are equally situated in the wheel? Or their positions doesn't impact the disparity of % of outcomes?

RED/BLACK - Alternate positions equally positioned in the wheel (0, 32-R, 15-B, 19-R, 4-B, 21-R, 2-B, 25-R, 17-B, 34-R, 6-B, 27-R, 13-B, 36-R, etc..)

vs ODD/EVEN - Distributed inconsistently across the wheel, from zero clockwise (0, 32-even, 15-odd, 19-odd, 4-even, 21-odd, 2-even, 25-odd, 17-odd, 34-even, 6-even, 27-odd, 13-odd, 36-even, etc.).

3. Related to #2, If the observation is valid, does it merit more consistent 'patterns' for RED/BLACK vs ODD/EVEN bets given they have the same probability of outcome at 48.64%?

Thank you for your feedback.

link to original post

Finally, ignore everything that EB says in his post. He knows nothing about probability or roulette.

The explanation for standard deviation in section 3 of this link is what I needed.

Appreciate your enlightenment.

Quote:Mental

Finally, ignore everything that EB says in his post. He knows nothing about probability or roulette.

link to original post

LOL, I'm ignoring everything else in this thread because you people are barking up trees that make no difference. I actually do this I actually play the game and beat it. And Mental, why are you ignoring what I said in the other thread. You're such a smart guy, ask me questions. But you don't have any questions do you, because you don't know what you're doing.

Quote:OnceDearI wasn't referring to that paragraph, which seems totally rubbish, but the section number 3 Standard deviation, much lower downQuote:DogHandQuote:OnceDearhttps://www.roulettestar.com/guide/mathematics/

Paragraph 3: Standard Deviation gives your answer

link to original post

OnceDear,

You may need to check the accuracy of the claims made there. For example, below is the calculation for the probability of winning on at least one "red" bet in two spins:Quote:3. What's the probability of winning on any spin?

Probability of winning on any spin

Instead of working out the probability of winning on one spin and another, we can also work out the probability of winning on one spin or another (notice the difference).

We do this by adding individual probabilities together:

18/37 + 18/37 = 0.97297

So in other words, we have a 97.3% chance of winning at least once when betting on red over the course of two spins. We don't care to win both, we just want to know the probability of winning on one spin or the other.

By this logic, the probability of winning at least one "red" bet over three spins is 18/37 + 18/37 + 18/37 = 54/37 = 1.4595..., or about 145.95%. This is clearly nonsense, since it implies that the probability of three "non-red" (black or green) spins in a row is 100% - 145.95% = -45.95%.

In fact, the probability of three consecutive non-red spins is (19/37)³ = 0.1354..., or about 13.54%, so the probability of at least one red over three spins is 1 - (19/37)³ = 0.8646..., or about 86.46%.

To answer the quoted problem correctly, the probability of at least one red over two spins is 1 - (19/37)² = 0.7363..., or about 73.63%, which is nowhere near the quoted result of 97.3%

Dog Hand

link to original post

link to original post

OnceDear,

My point is that if the math in that roulette guide is so wrong on one point (and a rather simple one at that), then any math claims made there are suspect and should be checked carefully.

Dog Hand

Quote:EvenBobQuote:Mental

Finally, ignore everything that EB says in his post. He knows nothing about probability or roulette.

link to original post

LOL, I'm ignoring everything else in this thread because you people are barking up trees that make no difference. I actually do this I actually play the game and beat it. And Mental, why are you ignoring what I said in the other thread. You're such a smart guy, ask me questions. But you don't have any questions do you, because you don't know what you're doing.

link to original post

I’ll bite. You often say ‘playing my game’. Can you explain what that means? The rest of us here know that seeing any sequence of previous spins is irrelevant to knowing what the next result will be. But the phrase ‘playing my game’ implies you don’t believe what I just wrote.

Quote:SOOPOO

I’ll bite. You often say ‘playing my game’. Can you explain what that means?

link to original post

Nope. Already explained it ad nauseam in other threads over and over and are you telling me you don't remember what it is? You got to be kidding me. All you did is mock it and put it down and now you're climbing that you don't even know what I'm talking about? Some critic you are, what a joke.

Quote:EvenBobQuote:SOOPOO

I’ll bite. You often say ‘playing my game’. Can you explain what that means?

link to original post

Nope. Already explained it ad nauseam in other threads over and over and are you telling me you don't remember what it is? You got to be kidding me. All you did is mock it and put it down and now you're climbing that you don't even know what I'm talking about? Some critic you are, what a joke.

link to original post

I get it. I’m supposed to remember every one of your literally tens of thousands of stupid posts? About the stupid idea that a candle burning feline infested conspiracy theorist math addled laundry enthralled deflecting rationality guy has beaten roulette?

I do like your food posts.

Quote:SOOPOOQuote:EvenBobQuote:SOOPOO

I’ll bite. You often say ‘playing my game’. Can you explain what that means?

link to original post

Nope. Already explained it ad nauseam in other threads over and over and are you telling me you don't remember what it is? You got to be kidding me. All you did is mock it and put it down and now you're climbing that you don't even know what I'm talking about? Some critic you are, what a joke.

link to original post

I get it. I’m supposed to remember every one of your literally tens of thousands of stupid posts? About the stupid idea that a candle burning feline infested conspiracy theorist math addled laundry enthralled deflecting rationality guy has beaten roulette?

I do like your food posts.

link to original post

Lol, Bravo. I Still can't believe you fell for the old ask me a question troll.

Quote:rainmanQuote:SOOPOOQuote:EvenBobQuote:SOOPOO

I’ll bite. You often say ‘playing my game’. Can you explain what that means?

link to original post

Nope. Already explained it ad nauseam in other threads over and over and are you telling me you don't remember what it is? You got to be kidding me. All you did is mock it and put it down and now you're climbing that you don't even know what I'm talking about? Some critic you are, what a joke.

link to original post

I get it. I’m supposed to remember every one of your literally tens of thousands of stupid posts? About the stupid idea that a candle burning feline infested conspiracy theorist math addled laundry enthralled deflecting rationality guy has beaten roulette?

I do like your food posts.

link to original post

Lol, Bravo. I Still can't believe you fell for the old ask me a question troll.

link to original post

Uncle Bobs like that old Comedian still doing the circuit. Everytime you go you think he will have new material and everytime

you go he never does and yet you still go.

Quote:SOOPOO

I get it. I’m supposed to remember every one of your literally tens of thousands of stupid posts?

link to original post

You're wrong, you don't get it. But you are supposed to remember the basic premise of what I do which you apparently do not because you never gave it two thoughts, all you did is scream your meaningless opinion and run the other way. And my posts are never stupid, that part would be on you. Don't blame me for your lack of ability to understand.

Quote:rainmanQuote:rainmanQuote:SOOPOOQuote:EvenBobQuote:SOOPOO

I’ll bite. You often say ‘playing my game’. Can you explain what that means?

link to original post

Nope. Already explained it ad nauseam in other threads over and over and are you telling me you don't remember what it is? You got to be kidding me. All you did is mock it and put it down and now you're climbing that you don't even know what I'm talking about? Some critic you are, what a joke.

link to original post

I get it. I’m supposed to remember every one of your literally tens of thousands of stupid posts? About the stupid idea that a candle burning feline infested conspiracy theorist math addled laundry enthralled deflecting rationality guy has beaten roulette?

I do like your food posts.

link to original post

Lol, Bravo. I Still can't believe you fell for the old ask me a question troll.

link to original post

Uncle Bobs like that old Comedian still doing the circuit. Everytime you go you think he will have new material and everytime

you go he never does and yet you still go.

link to original post

Some people you laugh with, others you laugh at.

People who can make you laugh get rich

People who cause you to laugh don't.

Life is unfair.

Quote:billryanQuote:rainmanQuote:rainmanQuote:SOOPOOQuote:EvenBobQuote:SOOPOO

I’ll bite. You often say ‘playing my game’. Can you explain what that means?

link to original post

Nope. Already explained it ad nauseam in other threads over and over and are you telling me you don't remember what it is? You got to be kidding me. All you did is mock it and put it down and now you're climbing that you don't even know what I'm talking about? Some critic you are, what a joke.

link to original post

I get it. I’m supposed to remember every one of your literally tens of thousands of stupid posts? About the stupid idea that a candle burning feline infested conspiracy theorist math addled laundry enthralled deflecting rationality guy has beaten roulette?

I do like your food posts.

link to original post

Lol, Bravo. I Still can't believe you fell for the old ask me a question troll.

link to original post

Uncle Bobs like that old Comedian still doing the circuit. Everytime you go you think he will have new material and everytime

you go he never does and yet you still go.

link to original post

Some people you laugh with, others you laugh at.

People who can make you laugh get rich

People who cause you to laugh don't.

Life is unfair.

link to original post

What does this have to do with you moving away from bisbane or boozebane or brisbee or wherever it is you're always bringing about you live. I thought it was Nirvana, according to you there was no better place on Earth and now you're moving?

Quote:EvenBobQuote:billryanQuote:rainmanQuote:rainmanQuote:SOOPOOQuote:EvenBobQuote:SOOPOO

I’ll bite. You often say ‘playing my game’. Can you explain what that means?

link to original post

Nope. Already explained it ad nauseam in other threads over and over and are you telling me you don't remember what it is? You got to be kidding me. All you did is mock it and put it down and now you're climbing that you don't even know what I'm talking about? Some critic you are, what a joke.

link to original post

I get it. I’m supposed to remember every one of your literally tens of thousands of stupid posts? About the stupid idea that a candle burning feline infested conspiracy theorist math addled laundry enthralled deflecting rationality guy has beaten roulette?

I do like your food posts.

link to original post

.

Lol, Bravo. I Still can't believe you fell for the old ask me a question troll.

link to original post

Uncle Bobs like that old Comedian still doing the circuit. Everytime you go you think he will have new material and everytime

you go he never does and yet you still go.

link to original post

Some people you laugh with, others you laugh at.

People who can make you laugh get rich

People who cause you to laugh don't.

Life is unfair.

link to original post

What does this have to do with you moving away from bisbane or boozebane or brisbee or wherever it is you're always bringing about you live. I thought it was Nirvana, according to you there was no better place on Earth and now you're moving?

link to original post

You are repeating yourself. We had this conversation a few days ago.

Quote:SOOPOOQuote:EvenBobQuote:SOOPOO

I’ll bite. You often say ‘playing my game’. Can you explain what that means?

link to original post

Nope. Already explained it ad nauseam in other threads over and over and are you telling me you don't remember what it is? You got to be kidding me. All you did is mock it and put it down and now you're climbing that you don't even know what I'm talking about? Some critic you are, what a joke.

link to original post

I get it. I’m supposed to remember every one of your literally tens of thousands of stupid posts? About the stupid idea that a candle burning feline infested conspiracy theorist math addled laundry enthralled deflecting rationality guy has beaten roulette?

I do like your food posts.

link to original post

SooPoo: Please consider yourself warned. The line in your post that I have bolded above, is nothing but a string of persoonal insults, especially the adjectives math addled and feline infested. Please be more responsible and avoid personal insults or I will take formal action against you.

Quote:gordonm888Quote:SOOPOOQuote:EvenBobQuote:SOOPOO

I’ll bite. You often say ‘playing my game’. Can you explain what that means?

link to original post

Nope. Already explained it ad nauseam in other threads over and over and are you telling me you don't remember what it is? You got to be kidding me. All you did is mock it and put it down and now you're climbing that you don't even know what I'm talking about? Some critic you are, what a joke.

link to original post

I get it. I’m supposed to remember every one of your literally tens of thousands of stupid posts? About the stupid idea that a candle burning feline infested conspiracy theorist math addled laundry enthralled deflecting rationality guy has beaten roulette? Can he just add it to his tagline?

I do like your food posts.

link to original post

SooPoo: Please consider yourself warned. The line in your post that I have bolded above, is nothing but a string of persoonal insults, especially the adjectives math addled and feline infested. Please be more responsible and avoid personal insults or I will take formal action against you.

link to original post

Can he just add it to his tagline?Quote:gordonm888Quote:SOOPOOQuote:EvenBobQuote:SOOPOO

I’ll bite. You often say ‘playing my game’. Can you explain what that means?

link to original post

Nope. Already explained it ad nauseam in other threads over and over and are you telling me you don't remember what it is? You got to be kidding me. All you did is mock it and put it down and now you're climbing that you don't even know what I'm talking about? Some critic you are, what a joke.

link to original post

I get it. I’m supposed to remember every one of your literally tens of thousands of stupid posts? About the stupid idea that a candle burning feline infested conspiracy theorist math addled laundry enthralled deflecting rationality guy has beaten roulette?

I do like your food posts.

link to original post

SooPoo: Please consider yourself warned. The line in your post that I have bolded above, is nothing but a string of persoonal insults, especially the adjectives math addled and feline infested. Please be more responsible and avoid personal insults or I will take formal action against you.

link to original post

Quote:gordonm888Quote:SOOPOOQuote:EvenBobQuote:SOOPOO

I’ll bite. You often say ‘playing my game’. Can you explain what that means?

link to original post

Nope. Already explained it ad nauseam in other threads over and over and are you telling me you don't remember what it is? You got to be kidding me. All you did is mock it and put it down and now you're climbing that you don't even know what I'm talking about? Some critic you are, what a joke.

link to original post

I get it. I’m supposed to remember every one of your literally tens of thousands of stupid posts? About the stupid idea that a candle burning feline infested conspiracy theorist math addled laundry enthralled deflecting rationality guy has beaten roulette?

I do like your food posts.

link to original post

SooPoo: Please consider yourself warned. The line in your post that I have bolded above, is nothing but a string of persoonal insults, especially the adjectives math addled and feline infested. Please be more responsible and avoid personal insults or I will take formal action against you.

link to original post

Having re-read my post, I would say feline infested is NOT a personal insult. I think EB is actually quite proud of his myriad of felines. I suppose the rest of my post can be considered mildly insulting. I think my post summed up the feelings of the vast majority of the posters. So if you feel I merit a suspension, I’ll take one for the team.

If you feel the need to engage with a certain person on this forum, please do it in his thread. That person hijacked this thread and then other posters piled on.Quote:SOOPOOHaving re-read my post, I would say feline infested is NOT a personal insult. I think EB is actually quite proud of his myriad of felines. I suppose the rest of my post can be considered mildly insulting. I think my post summed up the feelings of the vast majority of the posters. So if you feel I merit a suspension, I’ll take one for the team.

link to original post

The OP by poli2k01 has not been addressed in many days. It was a legitimate question. I doubt the OP finds this discussion illuminating.

Quote:SOOPOO

Having re-read my post, I would say feline infested is NOT a personal insult.

link to original post

Having 12 cats in a large house is hardly infestation. There are two women in my town that were in the newspaper about 15 years ago who have 40 cats and their house is as clean as a whistle. Once again, speaking about things you know nothing about never turns out well.

Quote:SOOPOOQuote:gordonm888Quote:SOOPOOQuote:EvenBobQuote:SOOPOO

I’ll bite. You often say ‘playing my game’. Can you explain what that means?

link to original post

Nope. Already explained it ad nauseam in other threads over and over and are you telling me you don't remember what it is? You got to be kidding me. All you did is mock it and put it down and now you're climbing that you don't even know what I'm talking about? Some critic you are, what a joke.

link to original post

I get it. I’m supposed to remember every one of your literally tens of thousands of stupid posts? About the stupid idea that a candle burning feline infested conspiracy theorist math addled laundry enthralled deflecting rationality guy has beaten roulette?

I do like your food posts.

link to original post

SooPoo: Please consider yourself warned. The line in your post that I have bolded above, is nothing but a string of persoonal insults, especially the adjectives math addled and feline infested. Please be more responsible and avoid personal insults or I will take formal action against you.

link to original post

Having re-read my post, I would say feline infested is NOT a personal insult. I think EB is actually quite proud of his myriad of felines. I suppose the rest of my post can be considered mildly insulting. I think my post summed up the feelings of the vast majority of the posters. So if you feel I merit a suspension, I’ll take one for the team.

link to original post

No. I have given a warning to you and I also gave a warning to others in the Roulette thread and I am now drawing a line in the sand going forward.

And pointing out that an insulting remark is actually true does not mean that it is permissible to use that insulting remark in a post. EX: If a member is very obese, you are still (in general) forbidden from posting that he is "fat" or "very obese." You can insult the content of a post or set of posts but you are not allowed to insult the person.

Quote:billryanWhy call someone a liar and risk suspension when you can praise his ability to create alternative facts?

link to original post

Thats a good point Billy.