Forum Rules 2.1 -- Effective 2/23/14
Rule 1: Absolutely no personal insults. If you disagree with another forum member, politely attack the writing, not the writer. (Amended 2/23/14 to not allow personal insults at all. The previous policy was more lenient.)
Rule 6: Keep it PG. No pornographic or violent images or text. Profanity is prohibited, especially the F word. (Amended 2/23/14 to not allow profanity at all. The previous policy was more lenient.)
I would also like to remind the forum that the same rules apply at Diversity Tomorrow, a ban at one site applies to both, and the same handle should be used at both sites.
Thank you.
Quote: Wizard
I would also like to remind the forum that the same rules apply at Diversity Tomorrow, a ban at one site applies to both, and the same handle should be used at both sites.
I have retired DocZZZ from DT, and am now SOOPOO over there as well.
Mike--- I assume your new rules will not be applied 'ex post facto'?
There are so many personal insults littering the WoV site, it would take a forensic bloggologist to sift through the wreckage!
Quote: SOOPOOI have retired DocZZZ from DT, and am now SOOPOO over there as well.
Mike--- I assume your new rules will not be applied 'ex post facto'?
There are so many personal insults littering the WoV site, it would take a forensic bloggologist to sift through the wreckage!
Soopoo brings up a good point Wiz. I am very much on the side of decorum, and nicety, but I think there should be a statute of limitations on what you can be suspended for. With 4 admins, and who knows how many secret admins,
I would like to suggest if an offense is not noticed within 7 days or so, then there should not be a suspension for that offense.
That is not to say that an older offense couldn't play into the penalty decision for a new offense though. This will prevent the admins from having to go back into history every time someone finds something to complain about.
But I do appreciate all your efforts to keep the site civil and almost everything that makes me want to post negative stuff is political in nature and has nothing to do with gambling.....unless Ahigh or other DI/DC believers are involved. And then, only common sense and real world experiences can save us from their nonsense.
And the classic " I suspect there is an Indonesian in the fuel supply ! "
Josh Deleted Deleted etc. regrettably due to new rules.
Quote: 1BBThis is a good step forward. Now let's see how it's enforced. It shouldn't be long. When someone tries to circumvent an insult by prefacing it with "in my opinion" how will it be handled? How about a "just kidding" or a smiley face after the insult? What about those who "bait" or otherwise try to provoke someone into an insult? Not all insults are obvious especially when the parties are not face to face. When there is a gray area, will the person making an alleged insult be asked to clarify their intent before action is taken?
I really can't imagine anyone here doing that !
Quote: BuzzardIn the words of my hero W. C. Fields : " Godfrey Daniel ! "
Don't be too surprised. It was in no small part your last suspension-causing insult that illustrated how a harmless cliche to one person was a hard cold insult to another.
Regarding old insults, any old post will be judged according to the rules at that time of the post.
After the latest Dorothy suspension and reversal, I agree a statute of limitations is in order. I'll kick it around with the other admins, but I'm thinking 30 days.
Is it statue or statute of limitations?
Your house, your rules. But since Aceofspades is out wining and dining the Lady In Red, I am compelled to defend myself.
Not appealing my suspension, just stating that the person offended thought that term was hilarious when used in a comment not directed at her.
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks" !
or we're sure to use them. 'Ass' was profane on TV up
to just a few years ago.
I do wish that you would consider making PMs of a negative nature (insulting, nasty, surly, etc.) to members that you have blocked against the rules. Perhaps it is more of a change in the programming than the rules that is needed (either way would be great) but that would keep a certain someone who is known for sending nasty PMs to people she has blocked--and knows they cannot respond to--from sending them and hiding behind the "programming" as an excuse for poor behavior.
Quote: EvenBobDefine profanity.
I'm sure your 9th grade history teacher had a rule against profanity but did he/she specifically spell out which words could and couldn't be used?
Quote: WizardI'm sure your 9th grade history teacher had a rule against profanity but did he/she specifically spell out which words could and couldn't be used?
My 9th grade history teacher was a Jesuit Brother at Mt. St. Joseph's college. I would be so suspended if I repeated some of the words he said !
Quote: WizardI'm sure your 9th grade history teacher had a rule against profanity but did he/she specifically spell out which words could and couldn't be used?
If you don't define it, how will we know. In church
saying hell the wrong was is profane. Is hell allowed
here? Or damn? That's also profane in church if used
the wrong way.
Who know how many forum member will be misdiagnosed due to this new rule ?
Quote: EvenBobIf you don't define it, how will we know. In church
saying hell the wrong was is profane. Is hell allowed
here? Or damn? That's also profane in church if used
the wrong way.
I can't speak for the Wizard, but I should think the word "Hell," could at least be permitted for emphasis.
What was he thinking?
v.
What the Hell was he thinking?
There's a huge difference in those two questions. I don't think the F-bomb is necessary for emphasis, though.
Quote: WizardRule 6: Keep it PG. No pornographic or violent images or text. Profanity is prohibited, especially the F word. (Amended 2/23/14 to not allow profanity at all. The previous policy was more lenient.
I'm disappointed to hear this. I can understand prohibiting hardcore pornography from being posted on WoV, but I see no need to be so squeamish about the occasional naughty word.
The title of this thread has the word "handjob" in it, and in that same thread I used the word "blowjob." That thread is a not so subtle discussion of soliciting prostitution in Clark County, where that activity is illegal. (Though the the thread did get very off topic.) Surely it's a bit of a stretch to call that subject matter "PG." Under the new policy the entire thread wouldn't exist. And yet the thread went on for 12 pages, so obviously the members of this forum are ok with the discussion.
The joke thread was popular enough to go on for 8 pages. It too, would not exist under the new policy.
The members of this forum are all adults. Most of us visit casinos regularly. Most of us don't blush when we encounter a swear word.
Quote: renoI'm disappointed to hear this. I can understand prohibiting hardcore pornography from being posted on WoV, but I see no need to be so squeamish about the occasional naughty word.
If a person can't make their point without using foul language then they can't make their point.
Quote: BuzzardDerriere is so much harder to spell than ass.
I guess you have to ask yourself Buzz. What would you rather have, a derriere or an ass? :)
Quote: AZDuffmanIf a person can't make their point without using foul language then they can't make their point.
Do you agree that banning popular threads like this one will improve WoV? Personally, I'd prefer that the moderators erred on the side of free speech.
Quote: AsswhoopermcdaddyApplaud the rule changes. Personal insults are harmful and violate any sensible code of ethics.
I'm thinking a certain someone needs to be careful how they sign their posts from now on. Using an abbreviation could be dangerous. lol
Quote: EvenBobIf you don't define it, how will we know. In church
saying hell the wrong was is profane. Is hell allowed
here? Or damn? That's also profane in church if used
the wrong way.
Any word in the bible is okay.
Quote: WizardAny word in the bible is okay.
Whew! I was worried for a minute there; losing hath, doth, and shalt would give me writer's block. :)
Quote: renoPersonally, I'd prefer that the moderators erred on the side of free speech.
How is this a "free speech" issue? I don't have free speech inside YOUR house.
Quote: renoDo you agree that banning popular threads like this one will improve WoV? Personally, I'd prefer that the moderators erred on the side of free speech.
If a person wants to use foul language, there are plenty of sites that allow it. I will repeat what I said before, if you cannot make your point without profanity then you cannot make your point.
Can we, instead of profanity--do what the media has done with the "N-word" (which is utterly ridiculous as everyone knows what the "N-word" really is...
Like., can we say hereon:
the F-word
the S-word
the A-word
the B-word
in place of the actual words...or is even a reference thereto considered profanity?
Quote: aceofspades
the F-word
the S-word
the A-word
the B-word
in place of the actual words...or is even a reference thereto considered profanity?
Probably, but why not just say:
Fire Bet
Seven-Out
Any Craps
Big Six/Big Eight
Technically, they're not profane.
By the way, I thought you were a Blackjack player!
Quote: AZDuffmanIf a person wants to use foul language, there are plenty of sites that allow it. I will repeat what I said before, if you cannot make your point without profanity then you cannot make your point.
Surely Mr. AZDuffman opposes political correctness in all its insidious forms, no?
Quote: renoSurely Mr. AZDuffman opposes political correctness in all its insidious forms, no?
Since when is avoiding profanity equated with being PC? I just equate making a post without profanity to talking with class.
This isn't a high school locker room. No need to talk like we are in one.
Quote: aceofspadesRe: profanity--what if I am quoting someone and the quote uses a profanity?
Can we, instead of profanity--do what the media has done with the "N-word" (which is utterly ridiculous as everyone knows what the "N-word" really is...
Like., can we say hereon:
the F-word
the S-word
the A-word
the B-word
in place of the actual words...or is even a reference thereto considered profanity?
I think we are allowed to use substitutions.
the F-word: Fornicate (It's in the bible)
the S-word: Dung (It's in the bible)
the A-word: Ass- No substitution required (It's in the bible)
the B-word: JJ
Quote: AZDuffmanSince when is avoiding profanity equated with being PC? I just equate making a post without profanity to talking with class.
Welcome to the nanny state side.
hese bible verses...
"For long ago I broke your yoke and burst your bonds; but you said, 'I will not serve.' Yes, on
every high hill and under every green tree you bowed down like a whore." (Jeremiah 2:20)
"But Rabshakeh said, Hath my master sent me to thy master and to thee to speak these words?
hath he not sent me to the men that sit upon the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink
their own piss with you?" - Isaiah 36:12
"So and more also do God unto the enemies of David, if I leave of all that pertain to him by the
morning light any that pisseth against the wall." - 1 Samuel 25:22
And, if you guys are really the adults you claim to be we wouldn't need these rules in the first place.
Be nice or go somewhere else! :) (I should have added "hey, hey" here but i fear we have flogged that one a little)
Quote: Buzzard"So and more also do God unto the enemies of David, if I leave of all that pertain to him by the
morning light any that pisseth against the wall." - 1 Samuel 25:22
OMG, I defiantly need to work "pisseth" into my vocabulary :)
Quote: the post in in my link aboveI chose the King James version because this is the only version of the bible which all consider to be inspired from god. Some do not accept them newer translations. In the King James Bible this was translated as "Son of a perverse rebellious woman". In hebrew, what Saul said was "ben 'avah marduwth," which is very vulgar and it really means "Son of a B". There are also times when Jesus calls someone a "fox" or a "viper" which is as bad as calling someone a "Male donkey" or a "female dog" today.
Quote: endermikeI can't verify the veracity of this analysis are there any biblical scholars in the crowd?
Lebron??? :)
Quote: BuzzardAre you sure that's Ok, Mike ?
hese bible verses...
"For long ago I broke your yoke and burst your bonds; but you said, 'I will not serve.' Yes, on
every high hill and under every green tree you bowed down like a whore." (Jeremiah 2:20)
"But Rabshakeh said, Hath my master sent me to thy master and to thee to speak these words?
hath he not sent me to the men that sit upon the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink
their own piss with you?" - Isaiah 36:12
"So and more also do God unto the enemies of David, if I leave of all that pertain to him by the
morning light any that pisseth against the wall." - 1 Samuel 25:22
All those words are acceptable, especially pisseth.
Quote: WizardAll those words are acceptable, especially pisseth.
I was laughing so hard when I read this that I pisseth myself.
