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gregor001
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January 11th, 2012 at 7:58:20 AM permalink
i made a program "electronic american roulette", just like in casinos. With one 0.

Made it on my own for Windows Operating system XP or more, 1Ghz, 1GB of RAM. Install file. User interface like in casino.
Program is also made for game automation (set jetons and play this positioning for let say 888 887 times and see who will profit - you or casino)
designed with microsoft visual studio .net 2010, more than 19ooo lines of code. Really.

if anyone knows anybody who is interested in buying exclusive rights (you get all, you are only owner of all files), please inform me.
you can be also between (you buy from me, other from you).


you get exclusive rights, source codes and all... it is verry much intended for promotional pourposes, because uppooon rouletter there is a banner window where advertisment can be.
is unique and i made it from 0. i am complete author.

i am a student and cost is funny symbolic
450 €

contact for more info: testsforknowledge@gmail.com
(as soon as possible)
Wizard
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January 11th, 2012 at 8:16:28 AM permalink
Next time, just post once. I just deleted the other two copies of this post.
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thecesspit
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January 11th, 2012 at 9:03:10 AM permalink
This post shouldn't be in the Help section at all. Surely small ads?
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
gregor001
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January 11th, 2012 at 9:41:30 AM permalink
you are right. this should not be here, but i looked and thought: this is the best place.

System admin, thanks for deleting other posts, i also said: what? how 3 times??
well this post can be freely moved to other, more appropriate plase if someone wishes.

thecesspit: small ads? adds can be whatever you like. it will be your adds not mine. advertisment is for you. all program is given to buyer and can do whatever he/she likes to do with it.
ads section can be deleted or picture of mlet's say: "bwin advertisement" can be shown. you can get people who would like to have advertisement on yout(this) program ....

hope we understood right ..
for more questions: testsforknowledge@gmail.com
EvenBob
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January 11th, 2012 at 1:14:57 PM permalink
If it works so well, use it yourself and become
a millionaire.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
thecesspit
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January 11th, 2012 at 1:23:42 PM permalink
Poster isn't claiming his program can be used as a system. Poster is trying to sell a piece of software to simulate roulette betting systems.

Good luck with that. I have no interest. I don't want to place small ads in the software, I just question why "Forum Info" -> "Help" is a place to be selling software and not, say about help on the Forums. I suggest the right section is the small ads section.
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January 11th, 2012 at 1:51:51 PM permalink
Gregor, just a piece of advice from a fellow code monkey.

I doubt you will find anyone willing to buy your software. I'm not trying to discourage you, but this piece of software doesn't sound particularly marketable. Any money to be made by advertising is almost exclusively on the web these days, and since your program is Windows-based, that's not really possible. All the online casinos already have roulette games and hence would have no need to buy your code and port it to a web-based system.

I guess you might sell it to a system gambler trying to prove he can win in the long term with his system (in this case I can see your program being kind of like WinCraps for roulette). But I doubt a person of such dubious intelligence would have 450 Euros to fork over to you.

The more I think about it, the more this sounds like WinCraps. You might want to get in touch with those guys to ask about their business model. You might be able to give away your software for free with some limitations, and then get people to pay you 10 or 20 Euro to register and get the full version. Much higher probability of this happening than selling the whole thing for 450. I have done absolutely no market research in this area, so I don't know what kind of Windows-based roulette software is out there already (do you?).

Just my two cents, and good luck on your future projects.
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January 11th, 2012 at 7:44:58 PM permalink
I have no interest, but if I did, I'd be leery after reading this first sentence.
Quote: gregor001

i made a program "electronic american roulette", just like in casinos. With one 0.

FYI: American Roulette has 0 and 00. Single zero is European Roulette.
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January 11th, 2012 at 9:41:07 PM permalink
Wouldn't you be a bit wary of someone who "made" a program rather than "wrote" or "created" one?
Wouldn't you be a bit wary of someone who described it as "american" rather than "American"? How careful and thoughtful a programming student is he with that faux-pas?
American roulette is a Zero and a Double-Zero. How much does he know about the subject matter?
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January 11th, 2012 at 10:08:26 PM permalink
The cost is specified in Euros and the language structure clearly suggests he's not a native English speaker.

gregor001: Since you're selling the rights and the sources, it would be a good idea to put up a demo for public download, and post a screenshot, so that people can get a better idea of what you're offering.
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gregor001
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January 15th, 2012 at 11:21:09 PM permalink
:) yeah, well you see, it is for advertising only. it's use is intended for "play for fun".
i talked already to some investors, but since my game is 2D and not 3D (not that i don't know 3D), they are not interested so much.
I replies this option, 2D, is much better, couse of much higher "readability" or how to say. It's much clear where you put your jetons.

I wouldn't mind becoming a mil.... :)
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January 16th, 2012 at 4:13:01 AM permalink
I dont think this is the right place to post this but I am going to reply anyways. I have my bachelors degree in statistics from emporia state university. I very recently brought stanford wongs casino tournament strategy book. Because I was trying to think if the math for it was right for what I was thinking as far as a blackjack method that did not involve counting but consistently beat the house. I also bought blackjack software and tested it for 2,000,000,789 hands. My results for this came up stunning I developed what I thought is a a variation of deep stack level progression non going broke betting strategy based on the laws of probability over time. This produces a positive gain for the player and let me explain how it works by explaining what it is not.
We know the math behind martingale doesnt work because you eventually go broke and you are betting to get one unit. What if you took a betting progression strategy and gave yourself aq bankroll of 200 times that betting progression and never went beyond that level you would then becoming up with something that beats the math behind most games because you never progress beyond that barrier of that which you have 200 times the total amount of the progresssion.
In even money games like blackjack the odds of winning one hand without doubling and splittling is close to 48% the odds of winning one out of two hands in blackjack without doubling or splittling is 73% and the odds of winning one out of three hands without doing the same is 86%. So here are the progressions I ran in my computer giving each player 200 X the total amount of each progression to see if we could yield a positive gain running each trial a minimum of 2,000,000,789 hands to account for the proper adjustments, I did 6 progression levels of each 200 deep for the total amount of progression so the players would not go broke if they lost one progression each player resorts back to the minimum bet after winning one progression bet

For the 1x then 5 X progression 200 deep my profit results yielded a constant growth of 12.7% percent over the long term
For the 1X 3X 15X progression 200 deep my profit results yielded a constant growth rate of 11.3% over the long term in simulation
For the 1X 2X 6X 18X progression 200 deep my profit results yielded a constant growth rate of 10.4% over the long term
For the 1x2X 6x 18X 72X progression 200 deep my profit resutls yielded a constant growth rate 9.6% over the long term
For the 1x 2x 6X 18x 54X 216X progression 200 deep my profit results yielded a constant growth rate of 8.7%
For the 1x 2x 6x 18x 54x 162X 1000X 200 deep my profit results yielded a constant growth rate of 6.5%

These trial progressions were ran 2,000,000,789 hands for each progression again the only reason this worked was because each player was sitting 200 deep of the total progression that way if a progression lost the player did not go broke. Cost is broken down as the following this is assuming a 5 dollar min wager

Bankroll for player A 5 + 25 = 30 * 200 = 6000 dollars
Bankroll for player b 5 + 15 + 75 * 200 = 19000 dollars
Bankroll for player c 5 + 10+ 30 + 90 * 200 = 27000 dollars
Bankroll for Player d 5 + 10 + 30 + 90 + 360 * 200 = 99000 dollars
Bankroll for Player e 5 + 10 + 30 + 90 + 270 + 1080 * 200 297000 dollars
Bankroll for Player F 5 = 10 + 30 + 90 + 270 + 810 + 5000 * 200 1,245,000 dollars

The whole premise behind this is to make sure you have 200 X of the total progression. Then the math does it self. Without the 200 X the strategy is no different then a glamoured up martingale. Without the 200 x the math says that this strategy will fail eventually. I would like someone else to do the math for me on this as well because maybe I have overlooked something, or maybe 2,000,000,789 is not enough hands. Yes that is right over 2 billion hands. Anyways get back to me on this please thank u

Jeremy Noble
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January 17th, 2012 at 9:34:32 AM permalink
@Gregor001 >> Seems kind of cool, thanks for posting !! Good luck with everything sir.

Ken
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