Quote: EvenBobPretty much. It's all smoke and mirrors. It's the
same with a bookie. If you owe a bookie a grand,
how much actual loss does he have if you don't
pay. Bupkis. He didn't lose, he just didn't win.
This is utterly ridiculous winning money is a casinos source of income. So not winning is a big thing. Its the equivalent of getting any other service and not paying for it. I mean if I hire a lawyer and don't pay he didn't lose anything he just didn't get paid for services rendered, sure you find that statement ridiculous right and it is no more ridiculous then what you said.
Article today about NV Supreme Court upholds marker law . This guy walked away from nearly 400K in markers, and was found guilty, not of not redeeming his debts, but of intent to fraud. The court found that just the intent was enough to make it criminal.
Put any twist you want on it, sucking you in, enticing you, whining and dining you, it is still your decision. I am a business owner and if someone takes my goods and services and gives me a worthless check, they stole from me and that is a crime.
Quote: 1BBIf he's a member here will the secret administrator nuke him?
Never can give it up, can you?
Quote: BozNever can give it up, can you?
Sure things in life: death, taxes and good old Boz commenting on my posts. I was going for tongue in cheek working off the thread title. I didn't mean to offend you. Don't let it spoil your weekend.
Quote: 1BBSure things in life: death, taxes and good old Boz commenting on my posts. I was going for tongue in cheek working off the thread title. I didn't mean to offend you. Don't let it spoil your weekend.
I chucked.
It was a perfect quip. Not too in your face, but enough to give a smile.
+1Quote: 1BBSure things in life: death, taxes and good old Boz commenting on my posts. I was going for tongue in cheek working off the thread title. I didn't mean to offend you. Don't let it spoil your weekend.
Quote: 1BBSure things in life: death, taxes and good old Boz commenting on my posts. I was going for tongue in cheek working off the thread title. I didn't mean to offend you. Don't let it spoil your weekend.
No problem, even with the snow and ice, it's a great weekend for me. Hope yours was as well. And keep fighting the good fight against the powers that be that bother you so.
Quote: TwirdmanThis is utterly ridiculous winning money is a casinos source of income. So not winning is a big thing. Its the equivalent of getting any other service and not paying for it. I mean if I hire a lawyer and don't pay he didn't lose anything he just didn't get paid for services rendered, sure you find that statement ridiculous right and it is no more ridiculous then what you said.
It would be the exact same as the casino telling you, "well you know, we are not going to exchange our cash for those chips because we don't feel like it". No different pal.
Quote: Baccaratfrom79It is definitely a felony in Vegas and they prosecute 100% of he time. It is a felony to defraud a casino. I just got off the phone with a family member who is employed in the casino industry. I googled it and will try to post a link that explains it. I know it is possible to settle sometimes but they don't do it all the time. It is virtually issuing a bad check from the start the way it is done.
/news/2014/dec/3/debtors-prisons-prevail-las-vegas-thanks-prosecutors-and-casino-markers-law/
and also better defined with statues:
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You get plenty of warning before they come for you, the same as vehicle repossession which for many years in the northeast I owned a repossession agency and made a tidy fortune working for he biggest banks. Sign today and tomorrow's unfortunate happenings are not pretty. Same thing.
Classified as a crime by Nevada Revised Statutes (N.R.S. 205.130) - Source. LV Criminal Defense
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Quote: BozI believe that is how "Titanic Thompson" made his living according to the book about him. One story is about him betting a boxing champion he couldn't knock him out with one punch on the other side of a doorway. Naturally the boxer took the bet, Thompson then shut the door and won the bet. True story or not, sometimes you have to consider everything and option when making a bet. But even if you were tricked, the right thing is to pay the bet and learn from it.
Lou Costello tried that. Guy put his fist through the door.
Last visit was 6 weeks ago
Holding a bet between Me and Wellwellwell
I got a 100 on the Dems taking the house, Wellwellwell has a 100 on Republicans holding the house
Wellwellwell has been missing for 4 moths, glad he paid before going missing
Since I paid via paypal, have Aces email address so I am sure it will work out
Quote: terapinedI hope AcesAndEights is ok
Last visit was 6 weeks ago
Holding a bet between Me and Wellwellwell
I got a 100 on the Dems taking the house, Wellwellwell has a 100 on Republicans holding the house
Wellwellwell has been missing for 4 moths, glad he paid before going missing
Since I paid via paypal, have Aces email address so I am sure it will work out
I would guess he's fine. He's said before he can't sign on from work, so he may just not have time lately.
Quote: onenickelmiracleFunny story nsfw I think the person who wrote the question is Kentry or someone like herm.
Fwiw, I think they should hire a hooker to do it, since the husband objects. A $50 girl. Assuming it's not just a troll story in the first place. The hooker gets paid, then it's on him whether he participates.
Quote: onenickelmiracleFunny story nsfw I think the person who wrote the question is Kentry or someone like herm.
That was beyond weird but I don't think a DRUNKEN bet is supposed be honored the same way a SOBER bet is supposed to be. If I drunkenly say,"I promise I will turn into an ocean if The Dolphins lose tomorrow," and the Dolphins do lose the next day, does anyone really expect me to keep that drunken promise? Of course not.
Quote: NathanQuote: onenickelmiracleFunny story nsfw I think the person who wrote the question is Kentry or someone like herm.
That was beyond weird but I don't think a DRUNKEN bet is supposed be honored the same way a SOBER bet is supposed to be. If I drunkenly say,"I promise I will turn into an ocean if The Dolphins lose tomorrow," and the Dolphins do lose the next day, does anyone really expect me to keep that drunken promise? Of course not.
Dont get drunk. Dont drink, alcohol is a terrible drug.
I wont touch it. Besides, the taste is disgusting. Seems all drinks are designed to cover up the disgusting taste of straight alcohol.
I honor all my obligations regardless if I am high or not.
I dont drink. Not my drug of choice
Alcohol is a hard drug in my eyes
You drink too much, you die
I am good with a relaxing THC vape hit
The value was set at $1000. The wife probably just wanted to have an excuse to do it anyways, but if not, there has to be an equal substitution. Really no BJ is worth $1000 unless already determined worth $1000, so only the wife can do it, or they have to hand over the money.Quote: beachbumbabsQuote: onenickelmiracleFunny story nsfw I think the person who wrote the question is Kentry or someone like herm.
Fwiw, I think they should hire a hooker to do it, since the husband objects. A $50 girl. Assuming it's not just a troll story in the first place. The hooker gets paid, then it's on him whether he participates.
Quote: onenickelmiracleThe value was set at $1000. The wife probably just wanted to have an excuse to do it anyways, but if not, there has to be an equal substitution. Really no BJ is worth $1000 unless already determined worth $1000, so only the wife can do it, or they have to hand over the money.Quote: beachbumbabsQuote: onenickelmiracleFunny story nsfw I think the person who wrote the question is Kentry or someone like herm.
Fwiw, I think they should hire a hooker to do it, since the husband objects. A $50 girl. Assuming it's not just a troll story in the first place. The hooker gets paid, then it's on him whether he participates.
If she said she would give him a bj if her team lost, and her team lost, and she GIVES the guy a pre-paid hooker, she has given him a bj. It's not his business what she paid for what he gave her. Apparently the bj was worth $1000 to him. Doesn't mean it was worth that to her.
Quote: beachbumbabsQuote: onenickelmiracleThe value was set at $1000. The wife probably just wanted to have an excuse to do it anyways, but if not, there has to be an equal substitution. Really no BJ is worth $1000 unless already determined worth $1000, so only the wife can do it, or they have to hand over the money.Quote: beachbumbabsQuote: onenickelmiracleFunny story nsfw I think the person who wrote the question is Kentry or someone like herm.
Fwiw, I think they should hire a hooker to do it, since the husband objects. A $50 girl. Assuming it's not just a troll story in the first place. The hooker gets paid, then it's on him whether he participates.
If she said she would give him a bj if her team lost, and her team lost, and she GIVES the guy a pre-paid hooker, she has given him a bj. It's not his business what she paid for what he gave her. Apparently the bj was worth $1000 to him. Doesn't mean it was worth that to her.
The whole thing was just weird. At least once she sobered up she showed remorse for making a horrible bet. She's MARRIED! It wouldn't have been so weird if she were single, but it's so awful to have a married woman agree to cheat on her husband that way. Like I said at least she realized what a huge mistake she made.
Quote: beachbumbabsQuote: onenickelmiracleThe value was set at $1000. The wife probably just wanted to have an excuse to do it anyways, but if not, there has to be an equal substitution. Really no BJ is worth $1000 unless already determined worth $1000, so only the wife can do it, or they have to hand over the money.Quote: beachbumbabsQuote: onenickelmiracleFunny story nsfw I think the person who wrote the question is Kentry or someone like herm.
Fwiw, I think they should hire a hooker to do it, since the husband objects. A $50 girl. Assuming it's not just a troll story in the first place. The hooker gets paid, then it's on him whether he participates.
If she said she would give him a bj if her team lost, and her team lost, and she GIVES the guy a pre-paid hooker, she has given him a bj. It's not his business what she paid for what he gave her. Apparently the bj was worth $1000 to him. Doesn't mean it was worth that to her.
One of the comments on the right of the page is interesting, especially in regards to your idea. What if the wife paid a gay man to do it? Is that also valid in settling the bet? If your argument is that all she said is that she’d give him one , then you’re saying he has zero say in who administers it
Not zero say. The bet was “to completion” and he surely has some control over that.Quote: michael99000Quote: beachbumbabsQuote: onenickelmiracleThe value was set at $1000. The wife probably just wanted to have an excuse to do it anyways, but if not, there has to be an equal substitution. Really no BJ is worth $1000 unless already determined worth $1000, so only the wife can do it, or they have to hand over the money.Quote: beachbumbabsQuote: onenickelmiracleFunny story nsfw I think the person who wrote the question is Kentry or someone like herm.
Fwiw, I think they should hire a hooker to do it, since the husband objects. A $50 girl. Assuming it's not just a troll story in the first place. The hooker gets paid, then it's on him whether he participates.
If she said she would give him a bj if her team lost, and her team lost, and she GIVES the guy a pre-paid hooker, she has given him a bj. It's not his business what she paid for what he gave her. Apparently the bj was worth $1000 to him. Doesn't mean it was worth that to her.
One of the comments on the right of the page is interesting, especially in regards to your idea. What if the wife paid a gay man to do it? Is that also valid in settling the bet? If your argument is that all she said is that she’d give him one , then you’re saying he has zero say in who administers it
Quote: michael99000Quote: beachbumbabsQuote: onenickelmiracleThe value was set at $1000. The wife probably just wanted to have an excuse to do it anyways, but if not, there has to be an equal substitution. Really no BJ is worth $1000 unless already determined worth $1000, so only the wife can do it, or they have to hand over the money.Quote: beachbumbabsQuote: onenickelmiracleFunny story nsfw I think the person who wrote the question is Kentry or someone like herm.
Fwiw, I think they should hire a hooker to do it, since the husband objects. A $50 girl. Assuming it's not just a troll story in the first place. The hooker gets paid, then it's on him whether he participates.
If she said she would give him a bj if her team lost, and her team lost, and she GIVES the guy a pre-paid hooker, she has given him a bj. It's not his business what she paid for what he gave her. Apparently the bj was worth $1000 to him. Doesn't mean it was worth that to her.
One of the comments on the right of the page is interesting, especially in regards to your idea. What if the wife paid a gay man to do it? Is that also valid in settling the bet? If your argument is that all she said is that she’d give him one , then you’re saying he has zero say in who administers it
I would say, based on the terms of the bet, that would also satisfy the terms. It would be up to the winner if he chose to complete the act, but the bj is available to him, and she would have paid for it.
Can her husband then sue her for infidelity?Quote: beachbumbabsQuote: michael99000Quote: beachbumbabsQuote: onenickelmiracleThe value was set at $1000. The wife probably just wanted to have an excuse to do it anyways, but if not, there has to be an equal substitution. Really no BJ is worth $1000 unless already determined worth $1000, so only the wife can do it, or they have to hand over the money.Quote: beachbumbabsQuote: onenickelmiracleFunny story nsfw I think the person who wrote the question is Kentry or someone like herm.
Fwiw, I think they should hire a hooker to do it, since the husband objects. A $50 girl. Assuming it's not just a troll story in the first place. The hooker gets paid, then it's on him whether he participates.
If she said she would give him a bj if her team lost, and her team lost, and she GIVES the guy a pre-paid hooker, she has given him a bj. It's not his business what she paid for what he gave her. Apparently the bj was worth $1000 to him. Doesn't mean it was worth that to her.
One of the comments on the right of the page is interesting, especially in regards to your idea. What if the wife paid a gay man to do it? Is that also valid in settling the bet? If your argument is that all she said is that she’d give him one , then you’re saying he has zero say in who administers it
I would say, based on the terms of the bet, that would also satisfy the terms. It would be up to the winner if he chose to complete the act, but the bj is available to him, and she would have paid for it.
Quote: petroglyphCan her husband then sue her for infidelity?Quote: beachbumbabsQuote: michael99000Quote: beachbumbabsQuote: onenickelmiracleThe value was set at $1000. The wife probably just wanted to have an excuse to do it anyways, but if not, there has to be an equal substitution. Really no BJ is worth $1000 unless already determined worth $1000, so only the wife can do it, or they have to hand over the money.Quote: beachbumbabsQuote: onenickelmiracleFunny story nsfw I think the person who wrote the question is Kentry or someone like herm.
Fwiw, I think they should hire a hooker to do it, since the husband objects. A $50 girl. Assuming it's not just a troll story in the first place. The hooker gets paid, then it's on him whether he participates.
If she said she would give him a bj if her team lost, and her team lost, and she GIVES the guy a pre-paid hooker, she has given him a bj. It's not his business what she paid for what he gave her. Apparently the bj was worth $1000 to him. Doesn't mean it was worth that to her.
One of the comments on the right of the page is interesting, especially in regards to your idea. What if the wife paid a gay man to do it? Is that also valid in settling the bet? If your argument is that all she said is that she’d give him one , then you’re saying he has zero say in who administers it
I would say, based on the terms of the bet, that would also satisfy the terms. It would be up to the winner if he chose to complete the act, but the bj is available to him, and she would have paid for it.
Maybe the state could sue her for pimping, but there's no infidelity involved. Again, my opinion.
Quote: onenickelmiracleFunny story nsfw I think the person who wrote the question is Kentry or someone like herm.
I'm confused: where was the original bet made?
In the second paragraph, the anonymous author writes, "A couple of weeks ago, my wife, some friends of ours and myself were drinking at my house."
However, with no mention of any change of venue, in the twelfth paragraph he states, "He left the bar immediately as I was irrate (sic)."
So, does the writer have a bar at his house?
Dog Hand
most of the people here are very smart, and cautious with stuff they do. this is the equivilent of trusting an online casino, that has been banned or is on some list that is a known cheating casino. it doesnt matter if you trust the guy, he doesnt have to pay you legally thats for sure.
Quote: heatmapi didnt want to read this entire thread, but i came up with a response.
most of the people here are very smart, and cautious with stuff they do. this is the equivilent of trusting an online casino, that has been banned or is on some list that is a known cheating casino. it doesnt matter if you trust the guy, he doesnt have to pay you legally thats for sure.
There is a big difference between "Should pay," and has to pay. If an online Casino cheats a customer out of money they SHOULD pay but I am not sure if they HAVE to pay. They could just block the Player's account or something like that. It's morally wrong to do that but I don't know if the Player can take them to court legally.
Quote: petroglyphCan her husband then sue her for infidelity?
No.
Even if the guy's wife gives the winner a b herself, there would be no cause of action the husband can sue her for.
Oh, he can file for divorce, but divorce no longer requires that a person show "grounds" or prove "fault" for divorce.
It is "no fault divorce"
No court would order her to wear the Scarlet Letter "A."
I was debating where to ask this and the forum sent me here. Kismet.
My neighbor and I had a friendly bet on Heller being re-elected. Loser was to donate $100 to the Downtown Mission.
He just called me and said since he owed them $100 anyway, he was headed to their thrift shop to spend it there.
Assuming he spends at least $100 there, would you consider the bet settled?
I don't know him well and aren't going to say anything to him but what do you think?
Quote: billryanIncredible timing.
I was debating where to ask this and the forum sent me here. Kismet.
My neighbor and I had a friendly bet on Heller being re-elected. Loser was to donate $100 to the Downtown Mission.
He just called me and said since he owed them $100 anyway, he was headed to their thrift shop to spend it there.
Assuming he spends at least $100 there, would you consider the bet settled?
I don't know him well and aren't going to say anything to him but what do you think?
NO! A DONATION means you do not get anything in return!
But agree with above poster that it is not worth it to mention it..... nothing good will come of it.
However, I agree with the suggestion to hire a hooker to give him a blowjob. If the wife gives the guy a blowjob, its like she sold a 50% chance of a blowjob for a 50/50 shot at $1,000. And the other guy means to degrade her by cumming in her mouth - no way to do that.
I am surprised that no one suggested that the husband should give the other guy a blowjob to let his wife off the hook. I guess there are limits to gallantry, lol.
Bill Ryan's bet: Your neighbor's position is a little bit low class. He isn't donating anything -because the stuff he buys almost certainly could have been sold to other people for $100. But it's not worth making an enemy of your neighbor.
I assume the story was BS as well. However, you know how some women get when they think they are right about something. So I can imagine something like this happening. I bet its happened 100's if not 1000's of times.Quote: gordonm888Blowjob bet: first, the original post started out by saying that they were in his house, then later says that the other guy left "the bar" after the angry blowjob bet was made. So, its reasonable to suspect that the story is bullshit.
However, I agree with the suggestion to hire a hooker to give him a blowjob. If the wife gives the guy a blowjob, its like she sold a 50% chance of a blowjob for a 50/50 shot at $1,000. And the other guy means to degrade her by cumming in her mouth - no way to do that.
I am surprised that no one suggested that the husband should give the other guy a blowjob to let his wife off the hook. I guess there are limits to gallantry, lol.
Bill Ryan's bet: Your neighbor's position is a little bit low class. He isn't donating anything -because the stuff he buys almost certainly could have been sold to other people for $100. But it's not worth making an enemy of your neighbor.
If the original bet was that she would give him BJ then she should have to administer it(he may despise hookers). What if I make a bet with Mike and loser has to do push-ups. Can I now have a friend do the push-ups instead of me?
She opened her mouth once and she needs to do it again.
As soon as he lost he said we never had a bet in the first place.
It was only like $30 so I’m not going to break any kneecaps over it, but it’s the last time I ever make a bet with that guy.
Quote: beachbumbabsI would guess he's fine. He's said before he can't sign on from work, so he may just not have time lately.
Technically I *can* log in from work, I just tend to not get very much work done :).
I believe terapined posted in another politics thread, that the money has been remitted. AcesAndEight's Escrow services, at your service!
Familiar story.Quote: gamerfreakA college friend of mine welched on a UFC bet.
As soon as he lost he said we never had a bet in the first place.
It was only like $30 so I’m not going to break any kneecaps over it, but it’s the last time I ever make a bet with that guy.
I've brought it up before, started a thread about it I think, but private betting on the honor system is -EV due to welching. The factor is quite large, at a minimum I'd say you're up against a 10% disadvantage. The exceptions are where a neutral party holds the money, or where the honor system is fully enforceable, as in home poker. Home poker can also fail you if you let people take markers.