RS
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March 11th, 2014 at 1:20:16 AM permalink
If you hadn't noticed he removed your bet, and the floor was called....if you're in good terms with them, he likely would have said to the dealer, "Place his bet on the player bet and pay it," then tell you something like, "It is your responsibility to make sure your bets are placed properly, and if this happens again, I won't be able to help you," then told the other superstitious player not to touch others' bets. If you're not in good terms with them, the boss could just say, "It's your responsibility to make sure your bet is placed properly at the start of the hand and since it wasn't placed at the start of the hand, we can't pay it. In the future watch your bets" then tell the superstitious player not to touch others' bets again.

Being nice and friendly to the boss, dealers, etc. in general is helpful for those situations that show up in the future where something got messed up.
Bmayo319
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March 11th, 2014 at 1:58:26 AM permalink
Yes it definately helps
bdc42
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March 11th, 2014 at 2:14:21 AM permalink
I agree you'd probably get a one time pass. this does open up a shot taking possibility though. this should result in a reprimand to the player form the Pit, unless he's high limit and you are small potatoes.
Keyser
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March 11th, 2014 at 5:10:27 AM permalink
Quote: Walkinshaw30t

I have on occassions been asked by security and pitbosses to pay back a bet to dealer from a few hands ago that was incorrectly paid (mainly at blackjack) with no video proof offered.



Here's what Bob Nersesian has to say about it.

Begin listening at 35:00 . In the future, this may be of some value if you find yourself in the situation again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-AgsmibTrE

Don't be so quick to give the money back.
Impmon
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March 16th, 2014 at 11:15:08 AM permalink
Quote: Walkinshaw30t

Yeh it was pretty damn rude - I had never seen this happen before and would hope the player be booted if it was made known to dealer/ pit



Probably won't happen. They play favorites when it comes to high rollers. If these Baccarat players were betting black, then the only thing that surprises me is that they didn't make you leave. Happened to me twice.

Once was while passing the Baccarat alcove. One old guy was hitting banker after banker. So I got in on that action by putting a greenie on Banker. It won, and I let it ride. Hit another banker. That's when the old guy said: "He's stealing my luck". He was betting purple. The floor man came over, and made it a private table, and told me to get lost.

The second time was at the Desert Inn (LV, NV) where I and a friend were playing the Don't Pass, and doing very well. He was half drunk, and called out "C'mon seven!" after every point went up. A black chip player who was losing heavily on the Pass line (and making every sucker proposition, covering all the box numbers) complained, and we were backed off. We were red chip players.

The Golden Rule (He who has the gold makes the rules) very much applies.
ComplexEnigma
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March 25th, 2014 at 10:27:28 PM permalink
I thought touching another player's bet was a huge no no, even for big fish. The few times I've seen it, the people involved were sternly (albeit as nicely as a stern message can be delivered) warned not to do it again, and often times it was the player's wife/friend/whatever that was touching the chips. I'd have to think all hell would have broken loose if someone did what you described at the casino I go to, and my local casinos tend to be far less high strung than the Vegas/AC ones I've been to. I can see someone being told to find another table because they were messing with the high rollers' mojo; however I can't imagine the floor letting a player mess with another player's bets no matter the bank roll. In Washington at least the player has to be the last person to touch the bet in order for it to be a legal bet, so they get pretty cranky if someone other than the player messes with the bets.
Walkinshaw30t
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March 26th, 2014 at 3:05:21 AM permalink
Quote: ComplexEnigma

I thought touching another player's bet was a huge no no, even for big fish. The few times I've seen it, the people involved were sternly (albeit as nicely as a stern message can be delivered) warned not to do it again, and often times it was the player's wife/friend/whatever that was touching the chips. I'd have to think all hell would have broken loose if someone did what you described at the casino I go to, and my local casinos tend to be far less high strung than the Vegas/AC ones I've been to. I can see someone being told to find another table because they were messing with the high rollers' mojo; however I can't imagine the floor letting a player mess with another player's bets no matter the bank roll. In Washington at least the player has to be the last person to touch the bet in order for it to be a legal bet, so they get pretty cranky if someone other than the player messes with the bets.



Yes Ive got no doubt that the dealer or pit would have definately had a few words to say to him if they had noticed it.
It was very poor form to touch my bet, though I can kind of understand how he got carried away with all the excitement around the extreme banker dominance.
Time will tell
SanchoPanza
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March 26th, 2014 at 6:01:45 AM permalink
Quote: ComplexEnigma

In Washington at least the player has to be the last person to touch the bet in order for it to be a legal bet, so they get pretty cranky if someone other than the player messes with the bets.

That cannot be the case with prop and place bets, among others.
ComplexEnigma
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March 26th, 2014 at 7:41:16 AM permalink
Quote: SanchoPanza

That cannot be the case with prop and place bets, among others.



Craps and roulette aren't legal in Washington (outside of reservations) so this isn't an issue.
Gandler
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March 26th, 2014 at 12:11:14 PM permalink
Did he take it off and try to steal it? If so he should have probably been arrested for thievery...
If he just moved it off if the betting radius because of superstition, I have no clue. But I would hope the casino would kick him off.

I love baccarat, but this is why I hate playing it, it seems to attract the most obnoxious superstitious people. I have never had anyone attempt this on me. But it is pretty "normal" for people to scream at me for "betting against them". Sometimes it gets super awkward especially at a table where everyone thinks like that... I have no clue why but baccarat is like a magnet for those kinds of people...

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