https://lasvegassun.com/vegasdeluxe/2015/nov/02/vegas-dave-wins-25-million-from-100000-bet-royals-/
He sortof sounds like the guy who hit a lucky bet and now wants his 15 minutes of fame:
"Dave took a $10,000 student loan while attending UNLV. He placed the entire $10,000 on red on roulette and doubled his money. He then had the $20,000 bank roll to start his sports betting career."
“I was at rock bottom a few years ago. My parents weren’t proud of me. I wasn’t proud of me, either. I’d lost their savings..."
Quote: WizardofnothingAnyone know if this guy is legit or just playing games?
Not legit. He has be known to make lots of big bets and just publicize the ones that he wins (aka Floyd Mayweather). How often do we see Floyd post pictures of his big losing tickets?
When he kicked the bucket awhile ago, someone else apparently took over and contued the situation.
As noted, on his big "wins" he usually bets both sides to generate the big winning ticket.
The picks, or system he sells are just a martingale and he completely burried his clients when it blew up.
Also, I think he's a trust fund kid or something like that, which is where he gets the stake money. But not sure on that one.
Quote: billryanI called him a clown on Ken Smith's old forum and several pros, including Ken , vouched for him. They said not to confuse his tv persona with his real life ability.
Then they were either getting a share of his action selling picks, or are totally clueless about sports betting.
Yeah, that is like these horse race guys, they reach into their pocket and produce a winning two dollar ticket... but its often a different pocket each time. You are supposed to notice their winning ticket, but not notice that they obviously have a two dollar ticket in every pocket and are just trying to set you up as a mark.Quote: Rigondeauxon his big "wins" he usually bets both sides to generate the big winning ticket.
Take two sides .... major action.... publicize the winning ticket, keep silent about the hedge....then sell your "skills".
Never understood wanting to be famous as a pro gambler..... the more people know about you, and you're legit the less money you'll make.
Quote: WatchMeWinWhat ever happened to Steve Stevens? Now that guy was a trip! Entertaining show though.
If you were in on the joke that was the best show on TV
Although, if you did have 7000 customers, you make up a second handicapper name, like Johnny DeMarco! You give 50% of your clients Johnny DeMarco for one side of the picks, and the other 50% Vegas Dave's other side picks. After the game you will have 3500 winners happy as shit. Now repeat with the next game... this will bring you to 1750 winners at 2-0....and so on and so on until you get around a dozen people that are 10-0 who think you are the shit and will pay you big bucks for your big big play... fly them to vegas and have them bet their house on a game and you take 50% of the winnings ..lol Isnt that the deal Steve Stevens made with his players?
All a scam. The one guy I enjoy listening to and think he is legit is Brandon Lang... 'two for the money' movie guy. He is trying to win for people and knows sports. Look you are not going to win every bet. Even the bets that perhaps should win, dont.. and vice versa.
Yeah, a pro gambler walks into a sports book and the lines change. He will need beards to get his bets down if he gets to be 'known', but sucker lists are just marketing tools.Quote: djatcNever understood wanting to be famous as a pro gambler..... the more people know about you, and you're legit the less money you'll make.
Went silent in the fourth quarter on social media
There went his life
Quote: WizardofnothingHa .... total clown- pulled his Instagram account down -
Went silent in the fourth quarter on social media
There went his life
Vegas Dave is dead but David the handy capper is just beginning his career
Quote: Rigondeaux
I don't see a problem. $1 bills are currency too, aren't they? How else would they pay him, other than US currency?
COINCIDENCE? YOU DECIDE!!
You know what I mean?
Quote: RSQuote: Rigondeaux
I don't see a problem. $1 bills are currency too, aren't they? How else would they pay him, other than US currency?
COINCIDENCE? YOU DECIDE!!
You know what I mean?
I didn't even notice what was wrong in the picture until you reposted it. I was too busy looking at the $100 bill at first. LOL at the $1 underneath the $100. :D
How many people have paid for sports picks here?
Quote: WizardofnothingI have a friend who has a handicapping service - the stories I have seen and heard first hand while visiting him in his office are absolutely mind blowing
Im intrigued... How long has he been doing it and how many subscribers does he have? Im assuming he may go by different names and multiple aliases?
Has a domains thought to generate leads. He works hard but he knows nothing more then anyone else
As Ive said before, you can be on the right play but still lose the bet due to multiple factors... I still look at my pool win in the superbowl as a supernatural fluke. I played NE and the over for reasons that didnt make the most sense, mainly to hedge my position as leader in the pool, but also because all the Favorites and Overs kept coming in as a crazy trend, and the destiny factor of Tom Brady getting revenge on Goodell.... All came into play. I still think the right play was Atlanta and Under after watching the game, but the right bet didnt win. But a win is a win.... and winning is what its all about.
Handicappers ... good ones... can help those who dont really follow sports but want to bet, or they just feel like they cant win themselves so they need help. A good sports handicapper should live and breathe the sports he is handicapping and be knowledgeable in order to put his clients in the best possible scenario for winning. But it is not guaranteed.
Now the stock market is different... High probability of success when you know your companies and their business sector.
How so? Other than the obvious.....DONT BET OVER YOUR HEAD AND GO BROKE. I would assume that goes for anything and everything related to gambling and even in most aspects of life.Quote: WatchMeWinsports wagering is more of a money management game than anything else.
I highly suggest people read Rigondeaux's posts talking about tout's.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/sports/28176-are-pick-sellers-and-touts-legit/
Quote: AxelWolfHow so? Other than the obvious.....DONT BET OVER YOUR HEAD AND GO BROKE. I would assume that goes for anything and everything related to gambling and even in most aspects of life.
I highly suggest people read Rigondeaux's posts talking about tout's.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/sports/28176-are-pick-sellers-and-touts-legit/
I would argue that money management is a very important part of all betting, including sports wagering. eg.. lets say you go 5-5 in your picks. If you just put the same amount on every bet, you come out down via the vig. You need to go at least 75% on your games when betting consistently equal denominations in order to have a somewhat meaningful account profit.
Lets say 2 guys both go 7-3 in their picks. One guy puts 100 equally on each game.. he is up 370 with vig accessed. The second guy put in 3 3 team parlays and 2 straight games. He hits 2 out of 3 games in each of his 3 parlays for 100 wagered on each.. he loses all 3. He put 300 on 2 games straight and splits.. he loses on vig. So, the same games played but managed differently by the two guys have drastically different results. There are many scenarios that we can discuss. He could also have won, but in the long run that is unlikely. Now, if you can't pick any winners at all.... then you cant win regardless of how you play.
Quote: WatchMeWinhave won, but in the long run that is unlikely. Now, if you can't pick any winners at all.... then you cant win regardless of how you play.
WatchMeWin, I agree with you, but there is no need when you put your money with Steve Stevens and the "Dice Doc" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW7q6GSMI0s
They make your money work for you!
Quote: WatchMeWinI would argue that money management is a very important part of all betting, including sports wagering. eg.. lets say you go 5-5 in your picks. If you just put the same amount on every bet, you come out down via the vig. You need to go at least 75% on your games when betting consistently equal denominations in order to have a somewhat meaningful account profit.
Lets say 2 guys both go 7-3 in their picks. One guy puts 100 equally on each game.. he is up 370 with vig accessed. The second guy put in 3 3 team parlays and 2 straight games. He hits 2 out of 3 games in each of his 3 parlays for 100 wagered on each.. he loses all 3. He put 300 on 2 games straight and splits.. he loses on vig. So, the same games played but managed differently by the two guys have drastically different results. There are many scenarios that we can discuss. He could also have won, but in the long run that is unlikely. Now, if you can't pick any winners at all.... then you cant win regardless of how you play.
If we were to take the exact opposite of everything you wrote here, there might be some good information.
Quote: TomGIf we were to take the exact opposite of everything you wrote here, there might be some good information.
You just answered your own question... now you have good information! Good luck and just win man!
Quote: WizardofnothingTom g might have just made the post of the year
Hey Wizardofnothing, for someone who just made 50% profit in one month from my stock pick, i would hope that you trust my judgement and bash on your moneymaker. btw, did you really buy it and are you really putting 20% of profits for the forum group in football season. Thats a nice nut the forum will appreciate if you are not bs ing.
https://imgur.com/gallery/2SBgJ
Quote: WizardofnothingI posted a screen shot of the trade- I have no sold it as of yet
Good to know you are a man of your word. I posted last week that it would not be a bad idea to take some profit off the table or buy put options against your long position. Although I still have great faith in the company and believe a buyout is eminent, the move has been amazing and there will be profit taking at some point.
I have another company I am eying up and doing an analysis on soon. It will be another great trade/investment.
Just as in investments, trading, gambling... winning is a mindset. Positive energy is a real factor.
I would argue that as well.Quote: WatchMeWinPositive energy is a real factor.
Positive and negative energy have nothing to do with anything when dealing with random events other than your own mental state of mind.
If having a positive attitude that helps you do a better job at a game or something of skill and that makes you play or better, well, that's a diffrent story.
I dont know how many times I have went in to a VP, BJ or slot gig with no sleep, in a bad mood and thinking this is going to be a disaster, and then the opposite happened.
I have went into an AP gig with a very nice advantage. I'm all excited, eager to play and have a great attitude. I'm thinking I'm going to crush this if I get x amount of time in. You guessed it the opposite happens.
Sometimes it works out just how I thought it would at the time as well.
https://imgur.com/gallery/2RkYT
Quote: WizardofnothingI actually bought options in this- it was my best trade ever
https://imgur.com/gallery/2RkYT
Congrats on that trade man.... well done! Looks like you made about 7x within 2 weeks time with your options. You're pretty aggressive as I like to play options as well. Great time to take that profit. They had good phase two results with Depression drug, but still a long way from approval and much can happen. Good luck!
Quote: AxelWolfI would argue that as well.
Positive and negative energy have nothing to do with anything when dealing with random events other than your own mental state of mind.
If having a positive attitude that helps you do a better job at a game or something of skill and that makes you play or better, well, that's a diffrent story.
I dont know how many times I have went in to a VP, BJ or slot gig with no sleep, in a bad mood and thinking this is going to be a disaster, and then the opposite happened.
I have went into an AP gig with a very nice advantage. I'm all excited, eager to play and have a great attitude. I'm thinking I'm going to crush this if I get x amount of time in. You guessed it the opposite happens.
Sometimes it works out just how I thought it would at the time as well.
Having a positive attitude is the basis for positive events to occur within the realm of cause and effect and laws of attraction. Some people have very strong energy, whether negative or positive, but we are all made of energy. Good things happen to good people. Now , that being said, I agree that random events like within gambling are out of our control.. but understanding past events helps predict future events. Knowledge in anything... stocks, sports, gambling is paramount.
DMK = HPS Discipline Management Knowledge = Higher Probability Success
And it all starts with a positive attitude. There is a reason that some people are absolute Mush in the casino...
All Hogwash. Sometimes good people get in car accidents and die. Sometimes very bad people get rich and live a very happy life.Quote: WatchMeWinHaving a positive attitude is the basis for positive events to occur within the realm of cause and effect and laws of attraction. Some people have very strong energy, whether negative or positive, but we are all made of energy. Good things happen to good people. Now , that being said, I agree that random events like within gambling are out of our control.. but understanding past events helps predict future events. Knowledge in anything... stocks, sports, gambling is paramount.
DMK = HPS Discipline Management Knowledge = Higher Probability Success
And it all starts with a positive attitude. There is a reason that some people are absolute Mush in the casino...
It will also make you appreciative of what comes your way. In a round about way, it encourages you to focus on that which you can control and to let the chips fall where they may when you have no control.
obviously, psychopaths and malignant narcissists often achieve great success, since being above other people is the most important thing to them, and they are unhindered by morality. Like the guy in Citizen Kane said, making money is easy, if it's the only thing you care about.
obviously, great people get cancer.