Poll - Is This Forum Really Dead Now

This is what the Boss Zuga says in the companion thread. So he can go with his "scientific poll" or see what members here say.


"Judging by the number of threads of a dying forum in the last few months and sheer volume of posts made in those threads , I am inclined to say the forum certainly is not dying. It just goes to show the passion members here have for WoV. You gotta respect that.

Granted the number of members online did drop a bit, which is a result of some members hating the "changes" and some banned members. But mind even though they no longer log in, some of them sure still lurk around.

Now what has really changed on here , really? Two things :

1. The new design - like it or not it was long overdue and bound to happen. The old design and 90s style had to go.
2. The ads - again like it or not its what is paying the bills. Everywhere you go you see ads, whether we talking about social networks, news websites, TV or even your car wash. The ads are part of the world we live in.

Everything else remained the same. The concept , the structure , the content , the membership ( well most of it ), the Admins, and the Wizard himself is still here."

I also see a lot of concerns here about the traffic numbers, and couple of you provided links to "traffic estimator sites', that are showing the decline. Fortunately for us, the only relevant and precise source is the google analytics , which shows an actual boost in traffic numbers ( slow but steady rise in the last year and half ).

Quote: Deck007

So he can go with his "scientific poll" or see what members here say.

beg your pardon? what is suppose to be my "scientific poll" ?

Quote: Zuga

beg your pardon? what is suppose to be my "scientific poll" ?

I'm am now comfortable with the "new" forum and it's grown on me as suspected. I'm sure others feel the same(good luck having anyone not in green admit that)

My biggest compliment to the owners is that you guys seemed to have let it run as if it was when the Wizard owned it. Hopefully the new owners will keep it that way and keep Mike on for years to come. If not, I hear 1BB wants to buy and run the site.

My biggest complaint. I can't really think of a new one.

Quote: AxelWolf

I'm am now comfortable with the "new" forum and it's grown on me as suspected. I'm sure others feel the same(good luck having anyone not in green admit that)

My biggest compliment to the owners is that you guys seemed to have let it run as if it was when the Wizard owned it. Hopefully the new owners will keep it that way and keep Mike on for years to come. If not, I hear 1BB wants to buy and run the site.

My biggest complaint. I can't really think of a new one.

Thanks Axel, I was trying type a response to this thread and you pretty much covered it. The Wiz is still here and the corporate touch has been minimal.

Can a moderator change the thread title so say "poll" so we don't get confused which thread we are opening?

Done.

Quote: AxelWolf

I'm am now comfortable with the "new" forum and it's grown on me as suspected. I'm sure others feel the same(good luck having anyone not in green admit that)

My biggest compliment to the owners is that you guys seemed to have let it run as if it was when the Wizard owned it. Hopefully the new owners will keep it that way and keep Mike on for years to come. If not, I hear 1BB wants to buy and run the site.

My biggest complaint. I can't really think of a new one.

I assume you are joking, Axel, but I'll once again attempt to set the record straight for those not in on the "joke". I have no desire to purchase this site and not once did I even remotely express any such desire.

One individual, for reasons known only to himself, has mentioned this several times knowing it to be false. This dissemination of false information has gone on unchallenged by anyone here. Don't they have a name for that?

I like a good joke as much as the next person but not if there's the slightest chance that it could be detrimental to the site. If someone browsing came away with the idea that it was for sale it could change the way they look at it. Reckless misinformation has a way of getting out of hand quickly.

As long as I'm posting I'll take this opportunity to comment on the new site. I liked it on day one and I like it now. I'm not the most computer savvy member here and I have no problem whatsoever with the navigation. The ads don't bother me in the least. In fact, there's room for more ads.

Quote: 1BB

I assume you are joking, Axel, but I'll once again attempt to set the record straight for those not in on the "joke". I have no desire to purchase this site and not once did I even remotely express any such desire.

One individual, for reasons known only to himself, has mentioned this several times knowing it to be false. This dissemination of false information has gone on unchallenged by anyone here. Don't they have a name for that?

I like a good joke as much as the next person but not if there's the slightest chance that it could be detrimental to the site. If someone browsing came away with the idea that it was for sale it could change the way they look at it. Reckless misinformation has a way of getting out of hand quickly.

As long as I'm posting I'll take this opportunity to comment on the new site. I liked it on day one and I like it now. I'm not the most computer savvy member here and I have no problem whatsoever with the navigation. The ads don't bother me in the least. In fact, there's room for more ads.

Of course it was a Joke and more at the person who keeps saying that. Is that BOZ?? I can't remember

I'm absolutely not a 1BB hater, I'm a fan. I really enjoy your membership here. I sometimes think you're way way off base with some stuff, and other times I think you're exactly right where others fail to see the truth.

I'm very annoyed when you welcome trolls and sock-puppets. I guess they need love to.

Quote: AxelWolf

Of course it was a Joke and more at the person who keeps saying that. Is that BOZ?? I can't remember

I'm absolutely not a 1BB hater, I'm a fan. I really enjoy your membership here. I sometimes think you're way way off base with some stuff, and other times I think you're exactly right where others fail to see the truth.

I'm very annoyed when you welcome trolls and sock-puppets. I guess they need love to.

Honestly, I'm not that good at identifying trolls and have been taken in more than once. I do believe there has been at least one, maybe two, posting this week. How they get away with the insults is beyond me.

I'm leaving for NYC in an hour or so to spend the night. Then on to AC for the weekend with good friends. My wife has comped tickets to Jenny McCarthy. It's not my cup of tea so she'll have to take a lucky friend. If anyone wants anything checked in AC tell me now or forever hold your peace.

Have a wonderful weekend!

Well I suppose you are waiting for my take on this having just woke up because of the time zone.
Only 26 have polled. Hopefully for a multi million dollar site I expected I expect more will response.
I suspect of the 13 (50%) who disagree my guess is they are from the owners, management, moderators and close associates.
For those posting and visiting less instead of more than before it is really telling. 10 to1.
It is not for me to claim I am correct but content is just as important to you as the advertisement.
I know the lurker who click on your ad is what matters to you and you have claim there is no drop-off here. So you can rightly claim you are right.

Quote: Deck007

I suspect of the 13 (50%) who disagree my guess is they are from the owners, management, moderators and close associates.

Believe it or not I accidentally voted yes ...

Now my point was that the forum certainly is not dead, and the site as a whole is doing well in terms of visits, which i backed with th google analytics chart.

On the other hand i do not quite understand the purpose of this poll in relation to what i said and to what you quoted me on.

Even if the poll results overwhelmingly showed that the forum is dying, it would still have nothing to do with what i said in regards to the site's traffic. And on top of it it would actually prove what i said that ppl care enough about this site to start such topics, and get involved by posting or votings in this case, which in essence and ironically enough would show that the forum is certainly not dead.

Sir, I am not sure how to reply to your comments here.
Let us take your first sentence first. The meaning of the forum is dead is not the same between us. Your meaning is it is active going by google analytics. My meaning is that there is much less posting and hence viewing by unique eyeballs.
Second sentence, the purpose of this poll is to back up what I claim which is shown up by the poll figures.
Third paragraph, your point is well taken. But there are much less postings. This I maybe have stretched a bit far to say "is the forum really dead".