33 votes (40.74%)
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February 16th, 2014 at 3:59:09 PM permalink
Forget that! Just got a PM saying he already has that title. And he suspended me because of my Dumb Blonde remark. Can't trust anybody.
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February 16th, 2014 at 4:16:21 PM permalink
Quote: Buzzard

Well my apology to Mission 146, I believe we need a secret administrator who has a bit more experience in life. A compassionate person, yet one who is not afraid to enforce the rules. A person respected and even admired by most forum members. Therefore in the hopes of promoting peace and harmony, I hereby nominate EVENBOB>


If we are nominating people (seriously), I think that Babs would be a great choice.
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February 16th, 2014 at 4:29:57 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

I think the best thing to do is realize that a private forum is not subject to needing everything quantified. Maybe instead of/in addition to S&W policy the admins could take the famous Supremes definition of pornography being "I know it when I see it." No need to over-codify things.

Think of it as a "Gentlemen's Club" where men (just for the example, I know there are women here) might come to socialize. A new member comes in and is loud in the bar area, uses foul language, and does not put away his towels in the sauna (yes, it is a really nice club!) So instead of booting him an elder takes him aside and says, "hey, son, let me explain how we behave around here." When the kid says, "I don't see that in the rulebook!" the old guy says again, "we don't have a rule for everything, there are some things gentlemen don't do because they are things gentlemen don't do, get it?"

I for one prefer "soft rules" to a rule for every last thing.

S&W were funny. Keep the current policy. It's not what you say, it's how you say it. Is Even Bob Statler or Waldorf?
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February 16th, 2014 at 4:34:54 PM permalink
I'll say it again: the administration of this forum is great. There will be phases when the decorum will be less than desired, but honestly, it gives a bit of flavor to the site. I think Mike liked JJs presence on the forum as it gave it spice. And I also think that he doesn't like it when people feel unwelcome in the forum, which is not what he is looking for.

And honestly, it's the threads like HB weight loss challenge and ObamaCare that help the site get hits from Google, and more traffic = more revenue (I hope).

No personal insults is already a rule on this site, and it is being enforced I think fairly reasonably. We have a thread where we can discuss the merits of suspension.

Keep up the good work. Nothing to see here, move on!!!
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February 16th, 2014 at 4:40:06 PM permalink
I voted other.....Can't we all just get along?
Most of the insults here would never be said face to face so why can't we just use that to help us judge offenses against others?
Wizard/Mission and any other admins are doing the best they can to run a free and awesome forum.
I have learned a great deal from you all and your life experiences.
I was reading everyones thoughts and posts way before I joined. A few years ago it used to be alot better than it is on here.
Let us get back to the way it was by using common courtesy and sense.
Would you say it to their face? Ask yourself this question before your keyboard gets diahrea.
Also,don't get so offended,it is only someone elses opinion.
There are alot of things that each of you have stated that I disagree with.
I mean form The Wizard at the top and all the way down you folks have said some things that have offended me.
Instead of huffing and puffing I ponder what has been communicated and try to establish how this interaction will help me rather than offend me.
Stop being so thin skinned and soft. It is ok to have a backbone on here but don't go for the throat.
Get Real.Respect each other.Stop all the unneeded bickering.Poke fun at one another tastefully.

Thanks to Michael and the admins that run this free site.I really enjoy this forum.Don't let a few bad apples ruin the bunch.

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February 16th, 2014 at 4:42:17 PM permalink
Quote: 1BB

Did it work?

To be perfectly honest, I don't think it had any effect on the Wizard's decision to unban RogerKint. Also, I honestly did not remember who had protested by not posting (I believe there were 2 members total) when I wrote that, and I do apologize if my post sounded like it was aimed directly at you guys. It was meant to be about the group as a whole including everyone who has posted about it here.

To everyone: People, this is a freaking internet forum. Someone got banned and unbanned. Is this really some grave issue that deserves 90 posts in the past few hours? lol

BTW, I voted Bigot. ;)
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February 16th, 2014 at 4:56:00 PM permalink
Quote: RaleighCraps

Poor ideas do not need to be attacked with insults or name calling. What one person considers to be a poor idea, may not be a poor idea. Discussion of the topic will generally bear out how the majority of the people feel about the topic. And if it is truly a poor idea, the masses will judge it as such.

I respectfully disagree with this sentiment. As an AP, I am frequently the only one out of a thousand people in the building who have any clue as to what I am doing. 100 of those people will hold the same incoherent beliefs as one another, and God help me if a group of them happen upon each other and all sit at my table. The majority is often taken by poor ideas, and is very difficult to convince otherwise. This is a fact that extends beyond gambling and internet forums. In the formation of our government, judicial review was crafted to protect the minority from the bad ideas the majority held. It is still used today.
I do not think that it is necessary for name calling, but sometimes it can be frustrating when the minority is correct and the masses are judging incorrectly. When I did something stupid as a child, my dad would call me a retard and threaten me with the back of his hand. My mom would basically ignore it, maybe make a comment. In operant conditioning, they would say my dad used punishment whereas my mother used extinction. Who do you think had the more convincing argument that I should not do whatever I was doing?
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February 16th, 2014 at 5:04:24 PM permalink
Why not change it to the obscenity policy? "I know it when I see it."

I generally think that this forum is presided over well, but one of the more distasteful things about it is the discussion over policy every time someone says something stupid or intemperate and gets themselves suspended. That is when the tenor of the board goes from largely palatable to middle school sniping and a bunch of "but he said...but she said" nonsense.

No ad hominem might be a bridge too far, but I wouldn't really mind that too much either. I would just prefer that every suspension didn't have to become a 5 page discussion on the merits of that suspension. We are all adults here. We can recognise for the most part when someone goes too far, and if we disagree, well, it isn't our forum. It is Wizard's.

I just think that the constant discussion of what constitutes proper behavior takes this board from an intelligent place to a childish one in a hurry. I wish suspensions would be handled in silence, and if a suspended member had a problem or question about their suspension, it could be addressed off the board via PM with mods.
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February 16th, 2014 at 5:05:07 PM permalink
Heck, my Celtic-Spartan backside once got the gavel on here simply because I refered to members as "cats", and I had the temerity to ask how many hands of baccarat constituted the "long run". So, I figured that moderation on here was already plenty tight, hey hey.
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February 16th, 2014 at 5:06:31 PM permalink
Come to think of it - isn't the "I'm a bigot" option sort of an attack on Nareed?

I mean, I guess originally mocking the poll in question would have been an attack on what she said, but making it a meme like this does feel far enough from the original poll that I'd have to call it a form of personal attack.
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