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February 26th, 2019 at 4:52:54 PM permalink
Fwiw, DT the Four Queens, Binions and Fremont are all the same owner.
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February 26th, 2019 at 6:14:21 PM permalink
The Fremont is a Boyd Property, along with The Cal and MSS.

The Four Queens and Binion's share the same owner, TLC Casino Enterprises.
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February 26th, 2019 at 6:40:03 PM permalink
casinos and owners don't seem to matter much. All sort of a blur these days. Get shorn anywhere.

clubbers, show goers, foodie fadists..... oh yeah, a few hit the casino too.

but the victors are the mba types.....the real vegas moved to reno, I hear.

or perhaps it can be found down in geritol town where there is no real strip.

remember the days of the two dollar movies and bowling and free rv slots

Where are the snows of yesteryear? Beats me.

head to the locals..... no shows, no frills, free mobility carts for the gamblers that ain't kicked off yet.
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February 26th, 2019 at 6:51:16 PM permalink
I posted long ago about the boozed up Let It Die player who just wanted some more free booze before she headed up to her room and heaven help any red headed woman or any bald headed dwarf she encountered en route. just as she did not want to hear about house edge, nobody else does. paradise for the mba types.
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February 26th, 2019 at 7:08:28 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

True, but does anyone in corporate realize that Millennials will not want afternoon day clubs and $200+ bottles forever? The excesses of youth will fade, but the grind of middle aged folks looking for a good slot deal is timeless. In a few years Millenials will feel old and awkward in a club full of their children. In fact, the generations coming behind the Millennials has already shown signs of rejecting their ascendants narcissistic ways.

So what will these former clubbers do when they get too old for the club scene?



In today's corporate environment, suits don't look much beyond the next earnings period. The major players are swimming in debt and gasping for straws.
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February 27th, 2019 at 4:20:20 PM permalink
The Las Vegas Strip is selling luxury. The lack of value isn't a problem, it is a design. Value can be found on the Strip for people who know where to look, but anyone staying at the Cosmo or Venetian is looking for something far different than what most of us (including the author) would consider "value."
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February 27th, 2019 at 6:45:59 PM permalink
Quote: TomG

The Las Vegas Strip is selling luxury. The lack of value isn't a problem, it is a design. Value can be found on the Strip for people who know where to look, but anyone staying at the Cosmo or Venetian is looking for something far different than what most of us (including the author) would consider "value."


I value winning or at the very least having had a good run for my money.
I can see a bit of value in safety but I see no value in strutting around with the swells who prance around as if its some society column event.
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February 27th, 2019 at 7:34:42 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

I value winning or at the very least having had a good run for my money.
I can see a bit of value in safety but I see no value in strutting around with the swells who prance around as if its some society column event.



You don't want to stay there and they don't want you. No problem.
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February 27th, 2019 at 10:00:06 PM permalink
I guess I've been going to Vegas for the past 15 years with my first visit in '97.

My observations are: with the exception of casino royale, casinos on the strip have nickeled and dimed the entry level casino-goer to death. But that's a phenomena associated with travel everywhere and exasperated in Las Vegas. And Vegas overall was down only 105,400 last year, including 155,400 fewer convention visitors. Strip gaming revenue was up year/year by 2%, downtown up 3%. Airport traffic hit record highs in November and October 2018. Car traffic was up 1.1% at the i15 corridor at the CA-NV border. LVCVA annual summary.

That said, the writer talks specifically about blackjack as if it was beatable -- the fact is that likely a very small percentage of players understood it and knew how to count. So I disregard the 2nd point altogether.

And Vegas has completed its transformation from the place where hotels were cheap and you could get .99 shrimp cocktails and $10 steak dinners to resorts offering opulence. There is still a place for the degenerate gambler because those who play even minimally and show loyalty get cheap rooms and meals on the strip... Those looking for a cheap place to stay now stay downtown. There are enough people in the middle class who gamble forcentertain entire who are willing to pay the higher hotel rates as a getaway.

I stayed in Vegas once last year (MGM) and put in 10k in coin for VP and played about 8 hours of PGP. My win/loss showed -350. I have a free stay coming up good at any MGM property besides bellagio/aria/vdafa/cosmopolitan. That isn't much play.
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February 28th, 2019 at 1:59:11 PM permalink
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And Vegas has completed its transformation from the place where hotels were cheap and you could get .99 shrimp cocktails and $10 steak dinners to resorts offering opulence. There is still a place for the degenerate gambler because those who play even minimally and show loyalty get cheap rooms and meals on the strip... Those looking for a cheap place to stay now stay downtown.



Ok, now I have to chime in about how much I resent those comments. I'm not a degenerate gambler but I like knowing that I'm valued downtown. I don't get a room, I get a nice suite without those stupid daily fees and a limo and full RFB for playing at the same levels that I'd play with on the strip- those same levels for which CET won't even give me the time of day for higher levels than your playing at!

Do you want to poke your head into other casinos for an hour or two- for a little variety- then I'd rather walk across a street rather than go 1/2 mile just to get on a bridge and walk the same 1/2 mile back the other way. If you want to see shows go ahead but I can take the deuce and still be there.

Looking for value and an establishment that treats you like the valued consumer that you are doesn't make you a degenate gambler!
Last edited by: Lovecomps on Feb 28, 2019
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