NowTheSerpent
NowTheSerpent
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May 25th, 2012 at 7:38:39 AM permalink
To understand Easy-Over-Under, visit either The Wizard's analysis page or Paradigm Games promotional page. Then ask: What if two Jokers were added to the deck?

Possible cases = (54 cards)*(36 dice rolls/card) = 1,944.

Any 'Joker' automatically wins Over/Under 1-to-1, or 2-to-1 if 'Joker' appears with hardways (doubles) dice roll.

Slight rule modification: card value = easyways dice total >> lose Over/Under bet; card value = hardways dice total >> Over/Under push.

Over/Under return = 438*4 suits + [30*2 + 6*3]*2 jokers = 1,908. Then E = [(1908 - 1944)/1944] = -1.85% (< 3.2051% in standard EOU game).

Short Side and Spread: 'Joker' pushes.

Short Side E = [(456*4 + 36*2) - 1944]/1944 = -2.4691% (< -2.5641% of conventional EOU)

and for Spread E = {[(31*2 + 11*6 + 6*12 + 4*20 + 3*30 + 2*42)*4 + 36*2] - 1944}/1944 = -2.8807% (< -2.9915% of EOU).

Of course the x4 is not because suits matter, but because there are only two 'Jokers', not four, else the simplest analysis would be 36*14 = 504 ways.

Also, to make the HA figure for the Short Side bet commensurate with that of all the other bets, I counted it as being placed before the community dice roll, with an automatic push for any [7] total, even if one's card dealt is a '7'. This model of the bet is where the above numbers for it came from.

I look forward to opinions, especially from Paradigm, the inventor of original Easy-Over-Under.
Paradigm
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May 25th, 2012 at 9:14:52 AM permalink
NTS, thanks for spending the time on revisions to the game.

The key item to note from the field trial last year was not that the house edge was too high.

Rather, players didn't really get the Short Side bet, it was "too complicated" for many players and that resulted in them not making that bet as either a hedge or a press of their original wager. Without utilizing the optional Short Side bet, there was really no engagement by the player during the hand. "There is nothing to do except put down your original O/U bet and wait to see what happens" was a complaint that was voiced.

While the non-engagement during the hand may work for Roulette and Baccarat, it decidely did not work for my game concept of EOU. Other issues included not pushing on "ties", players really didn't like losing 1/2 of their bets on easy way ties.

The Spread bet was well received and with a 3% house edge and nice volatility, it worked well with the players.

We are finalizing adjustments to the original EOU to address the issues raised in the field trial and keep the features that worked.
NowTheSerpent
NowTheSerpent
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May 26th, 2012 at 8:07:59 AM permalink
Quote: Paradigm

NTS, thanks for spending the time on revisions to the game.



I believe in EOU, as I think it is one of the few original, yet relatable, new game concepts out there.

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