Bad Beat Blackjack goes live at Red Wind Casino
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January 19th, 2012 at 12:27:14 PM
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I have an exciting announcement (for me, anyway):
Bad Beat Blackjack has gone live at the Nisqually Red Wind Casino in Olympia, Washington. It's been live for 7 weeks and players seem to like it so far.
Go play it. :)
For the record, this particular sale represents a milestone in my practice -- it was a solo effort from inception to installation. I handled everything including game design, math, patent prosecution (okay, I had legal help with the patent), regulatory approvals, marketing, and sales. I've done deals before, but always through vendors or distributors. This is my first solo install.
Bad Beat Blackjack has gone live at the Nisqually Red Wind Casino in Olympia, Washington. It's been live for 7 weeks and players seem to like it so far.
Go play it. :)
For the record, this particular sale represents a milestone in my practice -- it was a solo effort from inception to installation. I handled everything including game design, math, patent prosecution (okay, I had legal help with the patent), regulatory approvals, marketing, and sales. I've done deals before, but always through vendors or distributors. This is my first solo install.
"In my own case, when it seemed to me after a long illness that death was close at hand, I found no little solace in playing constantly at dice."
-- Girolamo Cardano, 1563
January 19th, 2012 at 12:57:13 PM
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Congrats! - knock 'em dead!
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January 19th, 2012 at 1:09:54 PM
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Congrats as well. Here's to it being a huge success and other casinos knocking your doors down!
January 19th, 2012 at 1:12:10 PM
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Nice! Congrats:-)
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
January 19th, 2012 at 1:43:51 PM
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Mazel Tov! I'm in the area, so maybe I'll check it out sometime. Where can I get a description of the game?
"So drink gamble eat f***, because one day you will be dust." -ontariodealer
January 19th, 2012 at 2:18:41 PM
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Quote: AcesAndEightsMazel Tov! I'm in the area, so maybe I'll check it out sometime. Where can I get a description of the game?
Among other places, the gaming commission:
WSGC approved rules
"In my own case, when it seemed to me after a long illness that death was close at hand, I found no little solace in playing constantly at dice."
-- Girolamo Cardano, 1563
January 19th, 2012 at 4:09:27 PM
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Well done ME, it takes a lot to get a new game out there.
January 19th, 2012 at 4:13:43 PM
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Quote: MathExtremistAmong other places, the gaming commission:
WSGC approved rules
Good luck! I think you will be successful. The number of players who say "My 19 always lose to 20..." will keep feeding the jackpot bet circle....
January 19th, 2012 at 5:56:26 PM
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Nice one MathExtremist,
Good luck with all your games too.
Good luck with all your games too.
Stephen Au-Yeung (Legend of New Table Games®) NewTableGames.com
January 19th, 2012 at 6:43:04 PM
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Congratulations! May it be the next Three Card Poker.
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January 19th, 2012 at 6:51:14 PM
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Quote: MathExtremistI have an exciting announcement (for me, anyway):
Bad Beat Blackjack has gone live at the Nisqually Red Wind Casino in Olympia, Washington. It's been live for 7 weeks and players seem to like it so far.
Go play it. :)
For the record, this particular sale represents a milestone in my practice -- it was a solo effort from inception to installation. I handled everything including game design, math, patent prosecution (okay, I had legal help with the patent), regulatory approvals, marketing, and sales. I've done deals before, but always through vendors or distributors. This is my first solo install.
Congrats. This is just straightforward and simple enough to be a big hit. Best of luck!
January 19th, 2012 at 6:53:44 PM
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Quote: SwitchWell done ME, it takes a lot to get a new game out there.
Is it a game or a side bet?
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
January 19th, 2012 at 7:14:41 PM
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Forgive me if this had been discussed in the past, but has the Wiz or anyone else had any ideas on BS changes if you have a side bet close to or equal to your main bet? For example, split 9's and 10's against a 10 for a great chance at a big payoff? How would this factor into the house edge?
January 19th, 2012 at 7:17:27 PM
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Quote: EvenBobIs it a game or a side bet?
Side bet.
Gratz ME! Must be proud of creating something from nothing all by your onesies. Couldn't happen to a better guy, I wish you success.
Get it in Vegas before 2/20 so's I can play it!
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January 19th, 2012 at 9:34:58 PM
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Interesting take on proprietary games and sidebets.
Here's another one about picking the right name for your side bet.
Here's another one about picking the right name for your side bet.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
January 20th, 2012 at 3:35:12 PM
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ME best wishes and hoping for great success in your game. Well done!!!! My feeling has always been to go solo and not give up 75%+ of your game to a distributor. If you feel confident in your game then the way you went about this is the way to go.
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January 20th, 2012 at 4:14:23 PM
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Congrats ME, that is a great property to get your foot in the door in WA.
January 20th, 2012 at 5:33:24 PM
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Congratulations! I'm just east of Seattle. Might have to make a trip just to play it!
January 20th, 2012 at 9:42:55 PM
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Congrats!
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February 27th, 2012 at 8:13:37 AM
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Missed this first time around. Hopefully not too late to offer CONGRATULATIONS
February 27th, 2012 at 8:43:05 AM
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Bravo, soloer. My installations of Shortie Blackjack and Break Poker were all solo too. The ups and downs of game design were just more exciting than gambling - eTable Games . I don't need to play table games to get my juice.Quote: MathExtremistI have an exciting announcement (for me, anyway):
Bad Beat Blackjack has gone live at the Nisqually Red Wind Casino in Olympia, Washington. It's been live for 7 weeks and players seem to like it so far.
Go play it. :)
For the record, this particular sale represents a milestone in my practice -- it was a solo effort from inception to installation.
February 27th, 2012 at 10:40:37 AM
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ME, I have been listening to some of the old Gambling with an Edge podcasts, and on the show with Max Rubin on November 17th, Max mentions that he has a patent on a Bad Beat Blackjack side bet, but had to negotiate with a second game designer who had a similar-but-not-exactly-the-same patent already.
Are you that other person? I was surprised to hear him talk about it, since the name of the side bet was exactly the same as yours (they didn't go into detail on the payouts).
Are you that other person? I was surprised to hear him talk about it, since the name of the side bet was exactly the same as yours (they didn't go into detail on the payouts).
"So drink gamble eat f***, because one day you will be dust." -ontariodealer
February 27th, 2012 at 2:02:54 PM
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Yes, I'm the "other person"; it sounds illicit somehow. I own several patents and trademarks on Bad Beat Blackjack, so when Max wanted to do his version he worked with me to make it happen. The product is known as "Bad Beat Blackjack Progressive" and it's live at Barona and several other casinos. Last I checked, there are over 50 tables in the market. DEQ is distributing the product: it's an electronically-implemented progressive side bet using DEQ's G3 bet manager. At Barona, anyway, the jackpot seems to hit reasonably frequently, and for 5 figures each time:
Bad Beat Blackjack Progressive at Barona
I haven't listened to the show you're referring to so I don't know any more details.
Bad Beat Blackjack Progressive at Barona
I haven't listened to the show you're referring to so I don't know any more details.
"In my own case, when it seemed to me after a long illness that death was close at hand, I found no little solace in playing constantly at dice."
-- Girolamo Cardano, 1563
February 27th, 2012 at 2:18:22 PM
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Congrats ME.
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April 17th, 2013 at 10:36:48 AM
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Any update on your game ME?
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I am an employee of a Casino. Former Table Games Director,, current Pit Supervisor. All the personal opinions I post are my own and do not represent the opinions of the Casino or Tribe that I work for.
April 17th, 2013 at 2:07:42 PM
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Congratulations
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April 17th, 2013 at 2:27:03 PM
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You already congratulated him in January 2012. :) I just re-opened this old thread to see if there was an update on how the game is doing.
ZCore13
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I am an employee of a Casino. Former Table Games Director,, current Pit Supervisor. All the personal opinions I post are my own and do not represent the opinions of the Casino or Tribe that I work for.
April 17th, 2013 at 2:31:21 PM
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OK, thanks.
Has it been so long?
Has it been so long?
Stephen Au-Yeung (Legend of New Table Games®) NewTableGames.com
