EZ Pai Gow in CA!!
September 28th, 2011 at 9:59:02 AM
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Congrats Dan on the placement of EZ Pai Gow @ Commerce Casino in LA. Sounded like this is the first installation in CA for EZ Pai Gow. EZ Baccarat is rampant in CA and it looks like EZ Pai Gow is starting to follow in its footsteps. Here is the link for those interested:
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/commerce-casino-goes-live-with-ez-pai-gow-and-deq-releases-ez-trak-for-ez-pai-gow-130698098.html
Way to go Dan!!
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/commerce-casino-goes-live-with-ez-pai-gow-and-deq-releases-ez-trak-for-ez-pai-gow-130698098.html
Way to go Dan!!
September 28th, 2011 at 10:48:19 AM
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Damn, the old man has cause to celebrate. And rightfully so !!
September 28th, 2011 at 10:54:00 AM
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I saw EZ pai gow at the Rampart, and EZ bacc at Suncoast recently.
September 28th, 2011 at 10:56:06 AM
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Wow.
Congrats Dan!
Congrats Dan!
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September 28th, 2011 at 11:27:28 AM
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Indeed, congrats Dan. Despite his Unreasonable stance on card counting, I play EZ Pai Gow every time I go to Pala (San Diego), where it seems like they have had the game for at least 6 months, perhaps longer.
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September 28th, 2011 at 11:33:54 AM
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I also just noticed in on the Barona website as well.....not sure why the Commerce was mentioned as spearheading the effort to get it approved in CA and is just now going live with the game if Barona & Pala already have it.
Apologies for the misinformation, perhaps Dan can update us on the progress in CA.
Apologies for the misinformation, perhaps Dan can update us on the progress in CA.
September 28th, 2011 at 12:02:49 PM
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Well It is a big deal, Commerce is a HUGE card room with tons of asian gamblers in an urban area of LA county, Pala is a very nice Indian casino in north Eastern San Diego county. Where the commerce probably has 10 Pai Gow tables, Pala has 4, one is EZ Pai Gow.
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September 28th, 2011 at 3:46:59 PM
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Quote: ParadigmI also just noticed in on the Barona website as well.....not sure why the Commerce was mentioned as spearheading the effort to get it approved in CA and is just now going live with the game if Barona & Pala already have it.
Apologies for the misinformation, perhaps Dan can update us on the progress in CA.
Paradign, good question.
In California, the card rooms are separate and additional approvals than Indian-based casinos.
We were approval in July 2009 for Barona/tribal gaming, but only recently were we approved for California card room use. Barona is all EZ Pai Gow.
A huge step forward. Thanks!!
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September 28th, 2011 at 3:52:32 PM
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Quote: bigfoot66Indeed, congrats Dan. Despite his Unreasonable stance on card counting, I play EZ Pai Gow every time I go to Pala (San Diego), where it seems like they have had the game for at least 6 months, perhaps longer.
Thanks!!
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But that's neither here ore there.
The main thing is getting tables out, so I can finally get out from behind a table. :)
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A LONG process...........................................................................
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September 28th, 2011 at 3:59:00 PM
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Well congrats on the success, keep up the good work! And the card counting comment was made with tongue firmly in cheek.
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September 28th, 2011 at 4:25:08 PM
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If card rooms don't charge a 5% commission on wins for Pai Gow Poker why would they want the EZ version? No offense to Dan, but I am just surprised the card rooms would get it.
September 29th, 2011 at 9:10:11 AM
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Quote: bigfoot66Indeed, congrats Dan. Despite his Unreasonable stance on card counting, I play EZ Pai Gow every time I go to Pala (San Diego), where it seems like they have had the game for at least 6 months, perhaps longer.
Of course it's unreasonable to some and perfectly reasonable to others.
September 29th, 2011 at 9:58:54 AM
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Quote: NicksGamingStuffIf card rooms don't charge a 5% commission on wins for Pai Gow Poker why would they want the EZ version? No offense to Dan, but I am just surprised the card rooms would get it.
Nick - there are a couple of reasons for the EZ Pai Gow option:
1. To pick up and use an array of the product's side bets. Currently, Commerce is using FIVE side bets on EZ Pai Gow, and will narrow it down to the most popular added bets.
2. To have the banker's option to use the Queen-high or lower mechanism; currently, offering PGP with both no commission and no house edge mechanism of any sort really cuts it close for the banker to bank. Bankers' groups have to bank an array of game types to insure a positive cash flow. They don't have to use the push mechanism, it's totally their option. This is kind of like living in New York City and never visiting the Statue of Liberty or the Broadway Theater district - but saying, "I have that option! Ah, the value of living in New York!"
If they do use it then some players might gripe about it, true, but then, 6:5 Blackjack gets action AND makes money for the house, all AP outrage and whining aside....
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September 29th, 2011 at 10:06:10 AM
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Of course it's unreasonable to some and perfectly reasonable to others. AND NEVER CHEATING !!
September 29th, 2011 at 11:20:09 AM
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Quote: PaigowdanNick - there are a couple of reasons for the EZ Pai Gow option:
1. To pick up and use an array of the product's side bets. Currently, Commerce is using FIVE side bets on EZ Pai Gow, and will narrow it down to the most popular added bets.
So is Lumiere Place in St Louis... I think it's overwhelming to have THAT many side bets, but more power to them, I guess.
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September 29th, 2011 at 12:31:47 PM
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Tilt,
So do I. EZ Pai Gow comes in a number of side bet configurations along with no commission. I am amazed at some configurations,
- but each casino operator has the best pulse on what their customers prefer and what they can handle.
And the players at the Commerce Casino are serious no-joke players who can handle a lot of action.
One of the surprise hit side bets in some locales is the Red-Black bet (The dealt hand has a Majority red cards or black cards like the Roulette bet. House edge of about 2% derived from 3 red, 3 black and a joker.)
So do I. EZ Pai Gow comes in a number of side bet configurations along with no commission. I am amazed at some configurations,
- but each casino operator has the best pulse on what their customers prefer and what they can handle.
And the players at the Commerce Casino are serious no-joke players who can handle a lot of action.
One of the surprise hit side bets in some locales is the Red-Black bet (The dealt hand has a Majority red cards or black cards like the Roulette bet. House edge of about 2% derived from 3 red, 3 black and a joker.)
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September 29th, 2011 at 11:19:24 PM
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Quote: PaigowdanTilt,
So do I. EZ Pai Gow comes in a number of side bet configurations along with no commission. I am amazed at some configurations,
- but each casino operator has the best pulse on what their customers prefer and what they can handle.
And the players at the Commerce Casino are serious no-joke players who can handle a lot of action.
One of the surprise hit side bets in some locales is the Red-Black bet (The dealt hand has a Majority red cards or black cards like the Roulette bet. House edge of about 2% derived from 3 red, 3 black and a joker.)
I'm at Horseshoe Southern Indiana, and you have a pit boss advocating to get EZ Pai Gow here... they already have EZ Bacc, and it's on the main floor... it sounds like you have a good chance of getting it in Indiana.
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October 7th, 2011 at 10:08:09 AM
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I have a question regarding house edge in a game called "Fortune Pai Gow". All rules are identical to EZ Pai Gow, EXCEPT they did not implement the Queen high push rule. In other words, there is no commission on wins and no fees to play. You do not have to bet the Fortune Bonus. The joker is wild for all cards, not just ace, flush or straight. The only difference is if you choose to bank, you must pay a $1.00 fee per $100 wagered on the entire table. For example, if you bank and four players each bet $25, you will pay the house a $1.00 fee. Based on this, aren't the odds for the non-banking player drastically increased since there is no queen high push rule?
