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December 1st, 2010 at 10:17:53 AM permalink
My last time at the Sycuan casino I noticed a blackjack side bet I hadn't seen before. I sat down to play to get the gist of it. I asked the dealer "What is this bet?" She said in a low voice, "It is just another sucker side bet." I admired her honesty.
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benbakdoff
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December 1st, 2010 at 10:31:45 AM permalink
I want to play as many hands per hour as possible and wish I could readily find tables with no side bet. Other players just don't like the distraction.

How about it casino managers? Can you give us a few tables with no side bets, preferably in a non smoking area? After reading this thread I think I know the answer but it doesn't hurt to ask.
odiousgambit
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December 1st, 2010 at 11:05:35 AM permalink
Quote: ItsCalledSoccer

I think any BJ with a dick pull is a little confusing. I'll just take the straight BJ.




Was this tongue-in-cheek? Outside of the gambling world, a "BJ" is not a card game.
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December 1st, 2010 at 12:46:21 PM permalink
I think with the normal bets I've seen (Match the dealer or lucky ladies), there are enough staff who have dealt the games that they don't slow down the game that often when I play BJ. However, I think like Dan's stated, more and more side bets keep popping up, and that's where things keep slowing down. Pretty soon, the table will look like a sunflower. The center will be for the actual blackjack bet, but it will be surrounded by 18 side bets that are possible.

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dlevinelaw
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December 1st, 2010 at 1:10:36 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

My last time at the Sycuan casino I noticed a blackjack side bet I hadn't seen before. I sat down to play to get the gist of it. I asked the dealer "What is this bet?" She said in a low voice, "It is just another sucker side bet." I admired her honesty.



In a similar situation, I was playing at the poolside pit at the Golden Nugget, and the dealer would only refer to insurance as "the sucker bet." So whenever he had an Ace, he would say "sucker bet, anyone?" None of the supervisors seemed to mind.
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December 1st, 2010 at 1:13:16 PM permalink
Quote: toastcmu

The center will be for the actual blackjack bet, but it will be surrounded by 18 side bets that are possible.

Each requiring procedure manuals and revisions, differing interpretations by different floors, endless meetings, none of them scheduled at convenient times ... yet the casino thinks its a good idea and will not listen to the customers.
FleaStiff
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December 1st, 2010 at 1:21:35 PM permalink
Quote: dlevinelaw

he would say "sucker bet, anyone?" None of the supervisors seemed to mind.

The main thing is that the customers liked it. A bit of humor and a bit of refreshing honesty go a long way in Las Vegas. Far further than elsewhere.

Sometimes a dealer will tell a guy, the side bet is for suckers but its only a dollar so go for it!

Sometimes a Stick Chick will say "sucker bets" instead of center bets. Often no one notices but sometimes they just laugh ... and make the bets anyway!
DJTeddyBear
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December 1st, 2010 at 1:55:25 PM permalink
I once heard a stickman announce "Anybody want the Junk In The Middle?"


Quote: Wizard

She said in a low voice, "It is just another sucker side bet." I admired her honesty.

I once went to an empty table for a game I didn't recognize. I asked how to play. The dealer said "You put your money down, and the casino takes it away."
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December 1st, 2010 at 2:00:15 PM permalink
If you're a player, then I think I would appreciate the lower hands per hour by having the side bet present. It's a distraction to the straight up game that doesn't bother me.

I'll play Blackjack Streak if it's available, and I'll also play the bonus bet in Switch as well. Both have HA < five percent and bring a level of interest in the game. For Streak, I use the streak as a form of pressing my bet, which is what I would do anyway after winning 3 hands in a row (instead I get paid for the streak).
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MathExtremist
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December 1st, 2010 at 2:16:45 PM permalink
Quote: Paigowdan

A good game idea takes into account real table procedures.


And an unprepared game developer ignores them. It's amazing how many new games I see that have reasonable math but totally unworkable procedures. It doesn't matter how good the game is if you can only deal 20 hands/hour.
"In my own case, when it seemed to me after a long illness that death was close at hand, I found no little solace in playing constantly at dice." -- Girolamo Cardano, 1563

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