Might Need a Programmer.

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I might need a programmer. My provisional patent still has around 10 months left. I heard there is some video programmers on this forum. I also heard the best way to get a patent is to make a video version of your game and patent that, leaving it open for a table game. My game is along the lines of complexity as 3 card poker. This is something I may or may not want to do depending on how the field trial goes ect. I suppose I would just need enough done to satisfy a patent. I was just wondering a ball park range of cost and time.

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I did the video prototype for Derek Webb's 3 card poker about 20 years ago. I don't remember the cost as it was too long ago and a different time.

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I might need a programmer. My provisional patent still has around 10 months left. I heard there is some video programmers on this forum. I also heard the best way to get a patent is to make a video version of your game and patent that, leaving it open for a table game. My game is along the lines of complexity as 3 card poker. This is something I may or may not want to do depending on how the field trial goes ect. I suppose I would just need enough done to satisfy a patent. I was just wondering a ball park range of cost and time.

Thank You

You don't need a video patent if your game isn't patentable, which there is a better than 99% chance it isn't. The funny thing is that even if there is something patentable within your gane, a video will definitely not help you get a patent granted. Getting a patent on a game now and days is 1000x more difficult than it used to be.

OK. There is some talk in other threads, that this is the way to go. However, I would not go this route unless a attorney advised it. If my game is not able to receive a patent am I just out of luck? Or is there any other ways to proceed with a game. I have a field trial soon. I think I have a very good game that will get play. I am more confident that I only have 1% chance as you say to receive a patent. However you could be right I am not going to argue it.

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I did the video prototype for Derek Webb's 3 card poker about 20 years ago. I don't remember the cost as it was too long ago and a different time.

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OK. There is some talk in other threads, that this is the way to go. However, I would not go this route unless a attorney advised it. If my game is not able to receive a patent am I just out of luck? Or is there any other ways to proceed with a game. I have a field trial soon. I think I have a very good game that will get play. I am more confident that I only have 1% chance as you say to receive a patent. However you could be right I am not going to argue it.

You are on the right track by talking to your patent attorney. Patent lawyer should know tricks of the trade, and he/she should be able to advise you whether external mechanisms such as software, hardware or other additional features are necessary in order to increase the likelihood of getting a patent.

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You are on the right track by talking to your patent attorney. Patent lawyer should know tricks of the trade, and he/she should be able to advise you whether external mechanisms such as software, hardware or other additional features are necessary in order to increase the likelihood of getting a patent.

The one thing that I would advise is get a patent attorney that has done casino games.

From a programmers perspective the price would vary on several things. The simple approach assumes a JavaScript version of a game that would be playable on the web (I am assuming if you are going to pay for this to support a patent, you might as well have a demo people can play). If you can find someone who has written casino games before, and could reuse the majority of the functionality (including things like card/chip animations, poker hand analyzer, etc...), such that fairly minimal modifications were needed I could see the price being in the mid-thousands range. However that is probably best-case with simple animations, and realistically I could see the price going much higher. Time to develop really shouldn't be too much of an issue, even starting from scratch.

That is my just opinion as I have not gotten quotes, other members can probably speak better to that...

Your most reliable bet is to check on Upwork. Tons of great programmers on there. They are efficient and affordable as well.

I did a simulator and playable demo for a game designer.

It was a playable demo in a windows exe (not browser) and would also output simulation results for N hands.

I remember charging in the $2k range because it was a fairly simple card game, and I already had object oriented code written for playing cards so it only took me a couple days.

If I had the time/inclination to do more of this type of work I probably would charge a bit more. I think $2k was a very very fair price.

You could probably find someone to do it for less on upwork, but those freelancers are hit or miss.

I did another program from the same game creator that would allow a pit boss to input certain values, and it would use a formula to calculate a progressive jackpot, and update the digital Marquees at the table.

This was very simple and only took a day or so, and I think I charged around $800. Again I think this was probably a very good deal for the game creator.

I was approached by the same company to do a vulnerability study on their new card game. The job was to create a counting system for the game, and a program to simulate the game/counting.

I quoted $3k for that job with the stipulation that I am not the best candidate as I had never created a counting system, but could 100% do the code portion of such a vulnerability study. I agreed that if I was unsuccessful in creating a counting system, I would refund $1000 and implement a counting system done by someone else in the simulator.

My bid to do the vulnerability study was declined, which I was actually happy about because it would have been pretty far outside my comfort zone.