mathematicians

can anybody recommend any mathematicians for checking the math on a game?

Charles Mousseau at www.tgscience.com

Mr. Mousseau did the math on a number of successful table game products, and is a very reliable go-to guy for gaming math.

he looks pretty good, thanks. by chance have you or any one you know gone through him?

Mount, You should buy the game design book authored by Dan (paigowdan). He is the man. There are several threads on his book in the forum.

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he looks pretty good, thanks. by chance have you or any one you know gone through him?

I used him for EZ Pai Gow. Charles Mousseau made my game, did a great job.

I used both Charles and CrystalMath (his name here) on my game. Both outstanding. Both should answer a pm.

thanks for the help, ill look into talking to these guys. btw which game is yours?

Barbara's game is Ultimate Casino War, distributed by the Shuffle Master Division of Scientific Games, and is detailed by Steve How at the above-mentioned link.

My games - with Math done very finely by Charles Raymond Mousseau - are EZ Pai Gow with DEQ (and other variations by under license with another distributor), and with Galaxy Gaming, WPT Heads Up Hold 'em, Three Card Prime, Four Card Stud, Four Card Frenzy, and Cajun Stud. The smash-hit game of High Card Flush, invented by Mike Pertgen, also had its very fine math done by Charles Raymond ("Charlie Ray") Mousseau

With AGS, the Cali Lowball math report was done by myself with raw "sim run" data from Steve How of San Diego.

The game Tiger Split (me with Mike Shackleford, licensed to DEQ), was also done by Mike himself and submitted directly to BMM gaming labs.

Also, a very fine mathematician is Joe Shipman (formerly of GLI laboratories) as well as Elliot Frome of Gambatria, who does a lot of work for SHFL/SG.

Paradigm's game is Lucky Stiff Blackjack (independently distributed), and Switch's games are Blackjack Switch, Freebet Blackjack, Zapit Blackjack, Burn-20 Blackjack, Deal & Reveal, and Picture Perfect, distributed by the Shuffle Master Division of Scientific Games, and their math may have been split among Charles Mousseau (on occasion), Steve How, and Elliot Frome; Geoff's games' mathematics were done, for the most part by Elliot Frome of Gambatria or by Steve How.

A growing part of the math work done for commercial casino games is by Adam "Bobby" Cohen (Miplet at this forum), and by Daniel Dale (CrystalMath at this forum), both very fine, and are emerging onto the gaming math scene.

Now, and for the record unless corrected on this, Eliot Jacobson, Mike Shackleford, Cindy Liu, and Stanley ("Shenli") Ko have all pretty much retired from doing gaming math work for relatively wide-eyed game designers, unless it is an offer that they cannot....

really appreciate the help. do you know anyone by chance who has done a game through canadian patenting by chance? usa has taking the provisional route and then non provisional after a year if its worth it, just wondering if you know any canadians and if there is any strategy with getting the game patented here in canada

Yeah. Start here. And hire a patent lawyer. You live near Toronto... plenty of attorneys there!

So in the us if you want to do it yourself and save money you can go the provisional route. Do you know if you can do something similar to that in canada to save money and not spend a lot on an attorney? Or is there only one way