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Wizard
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March 25th, 2016 at 3:37:47 PM permalink
Quote: RoyalBJ

Wizard, I recall the game was played with all cards face-up, all the time, except for the folded hands that are face-down. Collusion is allowed. However, when I was playing, every player was mostly worried about his / her own hand. I was told by the dealer, the developer claimed to have thought through these.



When I played at the Suncoast I was by myself so don't know the policy there. However, I would expect that players would be allowed to turn their cards face up as it is a challenging game to learn and new players will have no idea what to do. How much collusion would help, I don't know. Given the thin house edge, I would be a little worried about it if I were on the dealer's side of the game.
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UCivan
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March 26th, 2016 at 11:45:12 PM permalink
I played the game last night. It's a lot of fun. I did not find it hard to comprehend. There were 3 older ladies on the same table; no one seemed to have any difficulties. Agree with what Wizard said, ".... once you get the hang of it, I think the player will find it interesting, challenging, and entertaining." Loving it.

I think all you have to know are

(a) almost all the time put pairs together
(b) flush is easier to hit than straight (well, straight pays more, so make your choice)
(c) playing one card hand may not be as bad as you think (you'll get two more cards). One lady hit 3-of-a-kind with one card hand.

Then wish you luck.
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March 26th, 2016 at 11:58:00 PM permalink
Good report, UCivan. What was the Min-Max spread, do you happen to recall?
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
UCivan
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March 27th, 2016 at 12:18:17 AM permalink
Not sure what U meant by Min-Max. Let me attempt some answers. (1) The table limits were $5-$25. (2) If the dealer's upcard is Ace or King, then I would probably fold non-connected, unsuited, Queen or lower, one, two, three or even four cards. (3) Most the time, I played one card if it's a face. Sometimes, I just played any one card for fun. (4) For A369, I folded 369, played A. For A-A-2-K, I played A-A-2 and K, two separate hands.

I am sure I have not answered your question.
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March 27th, 2016 at 8:23:00 PM permalink
This is better than many new games. I like it.
Mission146
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March 27th, 2016 at 9:26:27 PM permalink
Quote: UCivan

Not sure what U meant by Min-Max. Let me attempt some answers. (1) The table limits were $5-$25. (2) If the dealer's upcard is Ace or King, then I would probably fold non-connected, unsuited, Queen or lower, one, two, three or even four cards. (3) Most the time, I played one card if it's a face. Sometimes, I just played any one card for fun. (4) For A369, I folded 369, played A. For A-A-2-K, I played A-A-2 and K, two separate hands.

I am sure I have not answered your question.



You did, I wanted to know the Table Limits. I just usually call it a, "Spread," because I think the common term, 'Limit,' is a misnomer as it only really applies to the Max side. I like that A-A-2, K play, that's pretty slick. The kicker is hardly ever going to matter and you give the King two chances to pair up.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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March 29th, 2016 at 9:12:21 AM permalink
At Suncoast, the rack card shows “Winning Ante”. It lists the payouts on Ante when a player’s hand draws one or 2 cards and then wins. Lack of other interesting subjects to talks about, the dealer, players and I discussed the term, "Winning Ante". What could be another choice to describe it? It came down to these two:

(1) Draw Ante Winner
(2) Drawn Ante Winner

This could be combined with "Instant Winner" to form "Instant and Draw(n) Ante Winner". Then, there would be only one payout table.

Which one is the correct English or better? I will take a vote. Perhaps there are other better terms?
Wizard
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March 29th, 2016 at 11:48:33 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Good report, UCivan. What was the Min-Max spread, do you happen to recall?



The minimum Ante is $5 (so total bet of $15). I think the max was a $50 Ante.
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UCivan
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March 29th, 2016 at 11:56:29 AM permalink
I am very certain, at least for the last week, the limits were $5-$25.
charliepatrick
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March 30th, 2016 at 2:56:33 PM permalink
I've started looking at the game but at the moment have only done a very approximate look. For each up-card I've looked at all the hands the dealer can make (ignoring our cards) and then using that worked out whether it is worth playing various 1 and 2-card hands (again ignoring that the dealer's upcard and your discard are missing). I've actually got that you play more often.

While I accept that it's very rough, the suggestion is against a Q or lower (where there's a fair chance the dealer doesn't qualify) it's better to play one card than fold. Yes you're odds against but better to gamble than give up your ante.
(i)any pair
(ii)any 2-suited cards
(iii)any open-ended connectors
(iv)vs (Q-2), any straight draw
UpCard2-card hands1-card hands
AAJ+ A3 A2A
KKT+A-4
QK2+any
JK4+any
TK9+any
9K2+any
8K2+any
7K2+any
6Q9+any
5Q9+any
4K2+any
3Q4+,J6+any
274+ except 92 82any

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