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sammydv
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August 11th, 2016 at 4:36:19 PM permalink
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The TA is not gagged. Send them an email. They replied to me just yesterday with the current share structure. They issue so much new stock the OS increases every few days.

inbox@cleartrusttransfer.com

Just be aware that they will CC: Lorraine@ntek.com on their response so create a dummy email address if you don't want them knowing who you are.



Did they tell you what:
Authorized
outstanding
float
restricted
warranted
preferred
ownership ratio and structure was?

You should not have to add or subtract anything from anything to come up with numbers. Also makes a difference if you're a shareholder. However this TA doesn't seem to let one set an account with them. Most every TA will, upon proving you're a shareholder, give you as much information legally allowed that the company has agreed to release.
The TA still has to get it's information from the company themselves. And TA's unfortunately can be corrupt as well.

Thank you, and I do know about the CC. nanotech does that with all their correspondence with the company. There's a lot of covert crap the foleys pull.
Skeptic
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August 12th, 2016 at 6:17:59 AM permalink
They gave me the Outstanding, Restricted and Float as that's all I asked for. Only two of those is necessary since the float is just the outstanding minus restricted.

The TA has little to do with the authorized or preferred. I go to the NV Sec of State site for that.

Any warrants or prefereds that matter will convert into common stock so they'll appear as increases to the Outstanding.
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sammydv
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August 12th, 2016 at 7:49:05 AM permalink
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They gave me the Outstanding, Restricted and Float as that's all I asked for. Only two of those is necessary since the float is just the outstanding minus restricted.

The TA has little to do with the authorized or preferred. I go to the NV Sec of State site for that.

Any warrants or prefereds that matter will convert into common stock so they'll appear as increases to the Outstanding.



Okay, but you really want to go to the TA to get the full story as the Nevada sos is updated only when the company updates their information and I can guarantee the sos has out of date information.

Plus the sos doesn't show preferred which is part of the whole count. The TA also keeps that balance. Only the public SEC filings would show all structure and ntek has been dark since 2012 and ntgl has never been a sec filer. The trash ntek files with the listing service OTCM can not be depended on to be accurate or even honest as the OTCM is not a government security agency nor vets any data given to them. A company pays a fee to OTCM to list their stock only.
Everything else the company publishes with the OTCM is a facade and completely unverifiable.

This is because of the criminal activity of royal capital owned by foleys. Fortunately, the ongoing criminal/civil investigation has the power to make the foleys produce the damaging data.
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August 12th, 2016 at 9:09:48 AM permalink
Whenever I read the last 2 posts, I see words but can not seem to have them make a readable sentence. This stock stuff is way over my head. I will just sit and wait to see if my 150,000 shares of Adelphia stock ever make me rich.
Expect the worst and you will never be disappointed. I AM NOT PART OF GWAE RADIO SHOW
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August 12th, 2016 at 9:33:18 AM permalink
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. I will just sit and wait to see if my 150,000 shares of Adelphia stock ever make me rich.



Don't quit the day job on that one. But you already know that.
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August 12th, 2016 at 9:39:20 AM permalink
That's incorrect. The NV SOS is more current than the TA when it comes to the Authorized and Prefered. They have to file with the NV SOS when increasing/decreasing the AS and prefered before the TA is even notified. It's the law. In fact the TA was still reporting the old 2.1 billion AS a week after it was changed at the NV SOS.

The prefered is listed on the NV SOS site but isn't broken down by class.

Officer lists and other company info is often out-of-date at the NV SOS because companies are only required to file those lists annually.
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August 12th, 2016 at 9:43:01 AM permalink
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Whenever I read the last 2 posts, I see words but can not seem to have them make a readable sentence. This stock stuff is way over my head. I will just sit and wait to see if my 150,000 shares of Adelphia stock ever make me rich.



That's exactly how so many otherwise smart people get taken to the cleaners with these scams. Your 150,000 share gamble is the equivalent of wagering $1,000 on a table game that you've never seen before without even reading or understanding the rules --- in a rigged casino.
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MathExtremist
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August 12th, 2016 at 10:15:55 AM permalink
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That's exactly how so many otherwise smart people get taken to the cleaners with these scams. Your 150,000 share gamble is the equivalent of wagering $1,000 on a table game that you've never seen before without even reading or understanding the rules --- in a rigged casino.


"In my own case, when it seemed to me after a long illness that death was close at hand, I found no little solace in playing constantly at dice." -- Girolamo Cardano, 1563
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August 12th, 2016 at 10:26:17 AM permalink
YES!!!! That is exactly what I had in mind when typing that. I LOVE that movie and it's the perfect analogy.
sammydv
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August 12th, 2016 at 10:46:54 AM permalink
Quote: Skeptic

That's incorrect. The NV SOS is more current than the TA when it comes to the Authorized and Prefered. They have to file with the NV SOS when increasing/decreasing the AS and prefered before the TA is even notified. It's the law. In fact the TA was still reporting the old 2.1 billion AS a week after it was changed at the NV SOS.

The prefered is listed on the NV SOS site but isn't broken down by class.

Officer lists and other company info is often out-of-date at the NV SOS because companies are only required to file those lists annually.


I don't believe that is necessarily true. Again, whether we agree ntek is a scam or not, we are not dealing with a straight up company that is transparent. Also, I don't believe that the preferred and warrants are included with the 6 million 'restricted' shares listed. That breakdown should be available on the SEC site via assorted form 3's, 4' and 5's and such submitted by the company, which coincidentally, ntek delisted themselves from SEC filing requirements in 2012 and by the TA. When the TA does not give a shareholder a total breakdown, they are most likely gagged. The TA and the SOS depend on what the companies themselves submit. Neither agencies actively seek out this data nor vet it. It is NOT the SOS's job to verify a a companies data.

Part of foleys facade is to sell just enough shares so as not to trigger ownership rules and discovery. That's how these crooks work.

You have been correct in all you posts, but most of it applies to reporting viable companies. nanotech enterprises do not have any obligations to publicly provide any corporate information or dealings. None. What ever this company has publicly provided all along has everything to do with selling personal stock of the founder and friends. There never was a single legit advertising campaign to the general public about ntek or ntgl.

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