EvenBob
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February 5th, 2014 at 9:27:00 PM permalink
Quote: Casinoboy

Are you serious. I can't believe after a year and a half you still struggle to "get it."
.



I just can't believe why the game would be changed
like this for no apparent reason. It's not better or easier
to play or more attractive in any way. Yup, I don't 'get
it' for sure. It's like the wheel with 3 sets of numbers
that all spin in different directions. Or 3 dimensional
chess. Just leave well enough alone.
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
doubleluck
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February 5th, 2014 at 9:30:04 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I just can't believe why the game would be changed
like this for no apparent reason. It's not better or easier
to play or more attractive in any way. Yup, I don't 'get
it' for sure. It's like the wheel with 3 sets of numbers
that all spin in different directions. Or 3 dimensional
chess. Just leave well enough alone.

The game hasn't been changed. There are only additional bets being placed on the layout. The game you know as "traditional" roulette is an evolution from an older game....the original was just betting Even and Odd. Since then, dozens, columns, and red & black were all added.
Casinoboy
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February 5th, 2014 at 9:39:53 PM permalink
Congrats on your installs DL. Good luck. I'm Interested to see how it performs.. Please PM me with some numbers when your receive them. Would like to run them by my director to see if we could get it in my casino.
doubleluck
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February 5th, 2014 at 9:43:41 PM permalink
Quote: Casinoboy

Congrats on your installs DL. Good luck. I'm Interested to see how it performs.. Please PM me with some numbers when your receive them. Would like to run them by my director to see if we could get it in my casino.

Thanks! Currently, it's holding an additional 6.21% over the traditional game in the UK, but will let you know how it performs in Vegas after the first month.
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February 5th, 2014 at 10:34:53 PM permalink
Quote: Casinoboy

Barbs, just wanted you to know that my casino is giving a serious look at your game. I've been tasked to write the IC's on it. Good luck with your game.



Casinoboy,
That's great news! I hope you decide to make an install. I am respecting Bally's role in placements and so will say nothing more, but thanks for letting me know. Yay!
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
Mission146
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February 5th, 2014 at 10:37:46 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I just can't believe why the game would be changed
like this for no apparent reason. It's not better or easier
to play or more attractive in any way. Yup, I don't 'get
it' for sure. It's like the wheel with 3 sets of numbers
that all spin in different directions. Or 3 dimensional
chess. Just leave well enough alone.



The apparent reason for the change of the game is the declining share of the casino's action had by the traditional Roulette table without such a side bet. The D and Golden Gate also happen to be two of the better-known casinos with respect to trying out new games, for example, The D offers Pai Gow Mania and is currently the only casino offering Deuces Wild Hold 'Em Fold 'Em.

Establishments try new things, some of them work, some of them don't. If nobody tried anything new, then Let it Ride would never have been played live in a casino, the result of which being Mississippi Stud likely not being invented and so on and so forth.

Roulette is not a game that attracts many young players, or even as many players as it once did, in general. Proprietary games have an increasing percentage of the overall casino hold and that for Roulette is decreasing. Well enough could be left alone, but if it is left alone long enough, it's quite possible that Roulette will eventually go the way of Faro.

Anyone know where I can find a good Faro game?
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EvenBob
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February 6th, 2014 at 12:31:23 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146


Roulette is not a game that attracts many young players, or even as many players as it once did, in general.



Holy cow, Mission, wrong on all counts. Most (most!) of
the people I see playing roulette in local joints and
in Vegas are under 35. And as far as making money, it's
doing better in Vegas % wise than BJ. It's holding it's
own as it always has and always will. 200 years and
counting, it's the original casino game.

The numbers came out a few months ago, roulette is
not fading in the least.
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
Tomspur
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February 6th, 2014 at 12:38:17 AM permalink
I may get lambasted for this but remember things don't start and end in the USA......Roulette is a HUGE game overseas, Europe, Africa parts of Asia. People just love the game, in fact is is twice as big as Blackjack.

I don't see the allure in the US because people are sick of playing a game that has worse odds than the ones played in europe and on some cruise ships. Perhaps a little re invention isn't completely out of line.

Still as Bob says, Roulette isn't going anywhere but could it be doing better inside the US......you betcha!!
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Mission146
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February 6th, 2014 at 12:46:02 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Holy cow, Mission, wrong on all counts. Most (most!) of
the people I see playing roulette in local joints and
in Vegas are under 35. And as far as making money, it's
doing better in Vegas % wise than BJ. It's holding it's
own as it always has and always will. 200 years and
counting, it's the original casino game.

The numbers came out a few months ago, roulette is
not fading in the least.



I'm talking dollar amounts based on a chart I saw, I'll find it within the next eighteen hours.
Vultures can't be choosers.
EvenBob
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February 6th, 2014 at 12:47:52 AM permalink
Quote: Tomspur

...Roulette is a HUGE game overseas, Europe, Africa parts of Asia. People just love the game, in fact is is twice as big as Blackjack.
!



More than twice as big, 10 times as big. Go to a casino
in the UK or France or Germany and all you see is roulette
tables. Some casinos will have 20 tables of roulette and 5 of
BJ. Same in S America and Africa. It's a fascinating game
and will be here long after the others have gone the way
of Faro..
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal

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