Wizard

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May 27th, 2013 at 2:08:24 PM permalink

I am pleased to announce that Lucky Stiff Blackjack, a companion bet for regular blackjack, went live at 7 Cedars Casino in Sequim, WA on 5/15/13.

Congratulations! I think you know that few game inventors even get that far. Step two is making more money than blackjack tables without your side bet. My father was born in Sequim, by the way.

What is the maximum ratio of side bet to initial blackjack wager? I suppose with 12 vs 4 or 13 vs 2, the player might stand with a large enough side bet, because if you push, the side bet loses.

Can you tell me the number of decks and soft 17 rule up there. I'm pretty sure six and hit, but it doesn't hurt to verify.
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Hunterhill
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May 27th, 2013 at 2:14:55 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Congratulations! I think you know that few game inventors even get that far. Step two is making more money than blackjack tables without your side bet. My father was born in Sequim, by the way.

What is the maximum ratio of side bet to initial blackjack wager? I suppose with 12 vs 4 or 13 vs 2, the player might stand with a large enough side bet, because if you push, the side bet loses.

Can you tell me the number of decks and soft 17 rule up there. I'm pretty sure six and hit, but it doesn't hurt to verify.

Well shouldn`t the player be standing on a 12vs 4 or 13 vs 2 anyway,unless he is counting and in a negative count?
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May 27th, 2013 at 2:39:10 PM permalink
Thanks for well wishes Buzz & Wiz!

7 Cedars is actually running a 8 deck shoe with hit soft 17 rule.

Bet limit on Lucky Stiff bet was set to begin at \$2 - \$25. On a \$5 min BJ table with \$500 max main bet I believe.

As I recall Wiz, there were only 2-3 hands situations that you would want to deviate from basic strategy when playing Lucky Stiff. It cost you .1-.2% on your main wager to make those moves and you picked up .3% on the LS bet (based on memory, I can confirm that when I am back at the office). I guess with enough difference in your main bet vs. LS, it may make sense to alter basic strategy in those rare situations. PM me if you want to see any of Charles reports.

I wasn't sure what you meant when you said you lost pushes. If your main bet pushes and your Lucky Stiff wager is still in play, the Lucky Stiff wager will push as well. On the back end settlement, the main & Lucky Stiff bets win together, lose together or Push together.
McDemon
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May 27th, 2013 at 2:45:16 PM permalink

Thanks for well wishes Buzz & Wiz!

7 Cedars is actually running a 8 deck shoe with hit soft 17 rule.

Hit soft 17, ouch..thankfully dealer stands on s17 in the UK, wouldn't get away with that here
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Hunterhill
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May 27th, 2013 at 3:41:54 PM permalink
Quote: McDemon

Hit soft 17, ouch..thankfully dealer stands on s17 in the UK, wouldn't get away with that here

Just give it time,It might take a few more years but it would not surprise me if casinos in the U.K. start to hit soft 17.
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McDemon
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May 27th, 2013 at 4:32:45 PM permalink
Quote: Hunterhill

Just give it time,It might take a few more years but it would not surprise me if casinos in the U.K. start to hit soft 17.

Can't rule it out mate, nothing seems to surprise me or is out of the question anymore, the industry is a changing.
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tringlomane
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May 27th, 2013 at 4:44:55 PM permalink
Quote: McDemon

Hit soft 17, ouch..thankfully dealer stands on s17 in the UK, wouldn't get away with that here

H17 is nothing compared to the 6:5 BJ garbage in Vegas.

I don't think I have ever played S17 blackjack in a casino. Maybe next time I go to Vegas, I'll go downtown so I can say I have....lol
Hunterhill
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May 27th, 2013 at 4:54:49 PM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

H17 is nothing compared to the 6:5 BJ garbage in Vegas.

I don't think I have ever played S17 blackjack in a casino. Maybe next time I go to Vegas, I'll go downtown so I can say I have....lol

You must be young or just started playing bj recently.Until about 5 years ago you could find s17 in many places.
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tringlomane
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May 27th, 2013 at 5:02:13 PM permalink
Quote: Hunterhill

You must be young or just started playing bj recently.Until about 5 years ago you could find s17 in many places.

33, and I haven't played blackjack in Vegas recently except trying Geoff's "Free Bet Blackjack", which is also H17. I have also played sporadically in Tunica and St. Louis where H17 is also the norm.