Alcohol volume going down at Caesars!
I remember when everybody was all up in arms about the new green light/ red light comp system.Quote: DeMangoFor those of you who drink: Caesars/Eldorado are cutting back on alcohol in mixed drinks in Vegas. Without lowering prices, a pour will be measured at .75 ounce instead of previous 1.25 ounces. MGM stays at 1.25 ounces. Bean counters strike again! This report comes from Twitter via Vital Vegas.
Quote: DeMangoWithout lowering prices, a pour will be measured at .75 ounce i
That's pitiful. When I had the bar we
poured 1.5 oz, or more. Vegas uses
rotgut for their 'well' drinks, just like
I did. So they're making a killing
on booze mark-ups. They must be
in dire straits if they squeeze every
penny out of a bottle of rotgut.. If
you order a drink like Jack and coke,
you can bet they're giving you the
cheap 'well' bourbon because you
can't tell the difference mixed with
a soft drink. They're called well
drinks because there is a 'well'
in front of the bartender that holds
the most ordered booze. 'Call' booze
is behind him on the shelf.
Quote: DeMangoFor those of you who drink: Caesars/Eldorado are cutting back on alcohol in mixed drinks in Vegas. Without lowering prices, a pour will be measured at .75 ounce instead of previous 1.25 ounces. MGM stays at 1.25 ounces. Bean counters strike again! This report comes from Twitter via Vital Vegas.
Wow!!! A ‘shot’ is a defined amount. 1.5 ounces. So if you say... ‘can I get a shot of Jack’, the bartenders response will be.... “yes sir, I will providing you with a double portion which shall equal one shot!”
There are a couple cocktail waitresses at my “regular” casinos who remember me each time I’m visiting Vegas and always give me a good pour.
Quote: ams288Just gotta find the right cocktail waitress.
There are a couple cocktail waitresses at my “regular” casinos who remember me each time I’m visiting Vegas and always give me a good pour.
Yeah, they will tell the bartender to do a heavy pour for good customers, usually good tippers
Quote: JohnzimboYeah, they will tell the bartender to do a heavy pour for good customers, usually good tippers
I also did heavy pours for people
I didn't like, to get rid of them
sooner. There was a loud mouthed
Harley rider who drank whiskey
and coffee. He never made it past
2 drinks and he stumbled out the
door. He thought it was because
I liked him. lol
Quote: AxelWolfI remember when everybody was all up in arms about the new green light/ red light comp system.
Sorry about that, but it ended up being a good product and every Caesar's/Harrah's property bought it from us.
Don't be sorry, I think its saved me money. It doesn't seem to take much to get the green light on. In the past I think I would play more without the system since I would feel a little guilty knowing I only playing to get drinks.Quote: DRichSorry about that, but it ended up being a good product and every Caesar's/Harrah's property bought it from us.
Quote: VegasriderWhat are they going to do next, ask the beer companies to start producing 6-8 oz bottles of beer?
I have seen casinos serve comp’d draft beer in tiny 6oz plastic cups.
Quote: gamerfreakI have seen casinos serve comp’d draft beer in tiny 6oz plastic cups.
This also makes me angry when I want a comp soft drink.
They bring it out in a tiny 6oz cup full to the top with ice, and maybe 2oz of actual drink. And the server still expects a $1 tip for that. You are better off spending $4.00 for a soda out of the hotel vending machine.
Quote: gamerfreakI have seen casinos serve comp’d draft beer in tiny 6oz plastic cups.
Common practice for Nevada casinos for certain weekends or events where they don't want any glass or bottles ending up out on the streets.
Quote: gamerfreakThis also makes me angry when I want a comp soft drink.
They bring it out in a tiny 6oz cup full to the top with ice, and maybe 2oz of actual drink. And the server still expects a $1 tip for that. You are better off spending $4.00 for a soda out of the hotel vending machine.
Keep the glass, and re-order your drink with no ice.
Quote: VegasriderCommon practice for Nevada casinos for certain weekends or events where they don't want any glass or bottles ending up out on the streets.
I don’t think the complaint is not serving in a glass, it’s the 6oz part. Doing their part to kill the planet as soon as possible once they get their profit out of it...
Quote: VegasriderWhat are they going to do next, ask the beer companies to start producing 6-8 oz bottles of beer?
Liquor stores have been selling 7-ounce cans and bottles since before I was 21, for little kids.
Quote: VegasriderKeep the glass, and re-order your drink with no ice.
I hate not having ice and my drink, $1 for a Dixie cup of soda would be a bad deal at movie theater, let alone a casino where the drinks are supposed to be free.
I don’t understand why they don’t just use offer canned soft drinks. I am able to order cans of redbull from CET diamond menu, but not any other soft drink.
Quote: gamerfreakI hate not having ice and my drink,
This is why you keep your old glass that still has ice and reorder your soda or juice with no ice. You could also request that they pour your soda in a tall or taller glass, if they say they can’t just order two, one with ice and the other with no ice.
Or you can go to the arcade and get your can or bottle of soda at a fraction of the cost. Arcade food and drinks are usually priced within reason for obvious reasons. For people like me who want value, not because of the kids who only have so little money to spend
Quote: VegasriderThis is why you keep your old glass that still has ice and reorder your soda or juice with no ice. You could also request that they pour your soda in a tall or taller glass, if they say they can’t just order two, one with ice and the other with no ice.
Or you can go to the arcade and get your can or bottle of soda at a fraction of the cost. Arcade food and drinks are usually priced within reason for obvious reasons. For people like me who want value, not because of the kids who only have so little money to spend
lol now I gotta play musical chairs with my cups to get a decent refreshment
Not sure why anyone other than a bean counter would shill for garbage drink programs like this.
Quote: gamerfreak
I don’t understand why they don’t just use offer canned soft drinks. I am able to order cans of redbull from CET diamond menu, but not any other soft drink.
I doubt they’re getting the soda out of a can.
Quote: mcallister3200I doubt they’re getting the soda out of a can.
I understand it usually comes from a soda gun behind the bar.
My point is that people expect a full size drink, I think that’s pretty obvious by the replies in this thread. Beverage industry standard for a drink is 1.5oz liquor, 5oz wine, 12-16oz beer or soft drink. The skimpy coffee and soft drinks that are usually served are not worth the $1 you are expected to tip.
Harrah’s philly and Delaware park (and I’m sure others) used to have free self serve soft drink stations. I’m sure they are gone now, because according to the casino shills in this thread, anyone who is not boozing in the casino belongs in an arcade.
Quote: gamerfreakHarrah’s philly and Delaware park (and I’m sure others) used to have free self serve soft drink stations. I’m sure they are gone now, because according to the casino shills in this thread, anyone who is not boozing in the casino belongs in an arcade.
Didn't at least one Vegas casino have a soft drink station on the casino floor, only to realize that it might as well have put up a giant sign at the entrance saying, "Free Soft Drinks For The Homeless"?
Quote: ThatDonGuyDidn't at least one Vegas casino have a soft drink station on the casino floor, only to realize that it might as well have put up a giant sign at the entrance saying, "Free Soft Drinks For The Homeless"?
I can see it being a disaster in Vegas or AC.
Security is much tighter at Delaware/Pennsylvania casinos. Generally every casino floor entrance has a security desk you need to pass through.
Forty years ago, good restaurants in Vegas were pretty rare and everyone expected dirt cheap buffets. Shows and night clubs were money losers intended to keep gamblers in the casino. Times changed and so did the casinos.
Other than tradition, why should casinos be expected to give away free drinks? You pay $15 to see a movie and they charge you $6 for fifteen cents worth of soda. You pay $100 to see the Dodgers and they charge you $10 for a beer, yet a casino is executed to give free stuff to you for walking in the door.
Quote: billryanOn the other hand, if the casinos can turn a money-losing division into a profit center, perhaps they could offer better gaming.
Forty years ago, good restaurants in Vegas were pretty rare and everyone expected dirt cheap buffets. Shows and night clubs were money losers intended to keep gamblers in the casino. Times changed and so did the casinos.
Did the gaming ever get better as a result of those changes? Is there any reason based on gaming trends to believe that it would if free drinks went away? It would be yet another reason for people to gamble at the local rather than go to Nevada, MS, or AC when they often have to pay for drinks anyway at the local. Green light/red light system seems to work pretty well they can probably always tighten that up more require more play.
I thought the whole reason for comping drinks for gamblers was because the resulting increase in gaming revenue due to drunk patrons would exceed the outlay for the free drinks. Is this not the case? (Any more?)Quote: billryanOther than tradition, why should casinos be expected to give away free drinks? You pay $15 to see a movie and they charge you $6 for fifteen cents worth of soda. You pay $100 to see the Dodgers and they charge you $10 for a beer, yet a casino is executed to give free stuff to you for walking in the door.
I know that if I get toasty at the Dodger game, I'm not going to just give them an extra $500 for the seat I paid $100 for. However, in the casino I may give them more than I was intending if I were inebriated.
Quote: ThatDonGuyDidn't at least one Vegas casino have a soft drink station on the casino floor, only to realize that it might as well have put up a giant sign at the entrance saying, "Free Soft Drinks For The Homeless"?
One of my local casino's got
rid of the free beverage
station a couple years ago
and players almost rioted.
They put a smaller station
back in and all that did
was make for longer lines.
Quote: JoemanI thought the whole reason for comping drinks for gamblers was because the resulting increase in gaming revenue due to drunk patrons would exceed the outlay for the free drinks. Is this not the case? (Any more?)
I don't think that is the case. People just like free stuff and are willing to go back to where they get free stuff. Same reason they give free rooms and free buffets.
When it comes to drinks, most casinos apply comps against the department, so if a player playing in the pit request a free drink, the pit is charged for the drink at full price. No discounts, each department must account for what they have gained and lost in terms of profits. So if I'm playing Bingo, that drink gets charged against the Bingo room. So the way I see it, the food and beverage department will be gaining the net profits by reducing the pour as customers may start ordering more drinks while they play, which in turm would go against the gaming profits.
Quote: JoemanI thought the whole reason for comping drinks for gamblers was because the resulting increase in gaming revenue due to drunk patrons would exceed the outlay for the free drinks. Is this not the case? (Any more?)
I know that if I get toasty at the Dodger game, I'm not going to just give them an extra $500 for the seat I paid $100 for. However, in the casino I may give them more than I was intending if I were inebriated.
I'm sure that was the case in the 1950s thru the 1970s when drinking was a much larger part of life, but I'm not sure it's the case anymore.
Venentian poker room had self serving beverage station 2018. I wonder it is still there.
Quote: gamerfreakI have seen casinos serve comp’d draft beer in tiny 6oz plastic cups.
I hate this as well. Especially places that do it for coffee and soda. Some properties will give you basically a shot glass of coffee. (I believe the Orleans does this). The good ones will give you a proper 10-12 oz cup with a lid. I strongly prefer coffee in a paper cup to one in glass.
I’ve stopped ordering soft drinks from the cocktail waitress at some properties. If there’s a food court I can usually find a large fountain soda for $3 or so that is easily 5x-6x the size of the comped sodas.
Quote: billryanI'm sure that was the case in the 1950s thru the 1970s when drinking was a much larger part of life,
Look at the show Madmen, they
drank in the office all day long.
That's not an exaggeration, it
was thought alcohol inspires
more original thought in
advertising. Turns out they
were correct, that's why so
many famous authors drank.
Weed has the opposite effect,
it kills creativity.
Quote: EvenBobWeed has the opposite effect,
it kills creativity.
lol
Quote: EvenBobLook at the show Madmen, they
drank in the office all day long.
That's not an exaggeration, it
was thought alcohol inspires
more original thought in
advertising. Turns out they
were correct, that's why so
many famous authors drank.
Weed has the opposite effect,
it kills creativity.
Picasso before weed.
After weed
Quote: gamerfreaklol
"Smoking weed not only harms your health but also reduces your creative thinking capabilities, according to researchers. Smoking weed may put you at risk of losing your creativity as well as make you less aware of your mistakes. The findings showed that cannabis users were less able to brainstorm, a mental process that is crucial for creative performance."
This certainly isn't 'new' information.
I knew this when I smoked weed in
the 70's. I saw it in my friends. I've
heard comedians tell stories about
how their careers went nowhere
until they quit the weed.
