CET To Charge for Parking in Vegas
CET Properties to Charge for Parking in Vegas
Valet parking is first (end of December). Self parking sometime in 2017.
No charges for parking at Rio.
I hope their customers punish them for this.
Stupid bean counters.
However, they better have it like AC where as long asyou play or are a certain tier it is free. If I am diamond or platinum and have to pay then I might turn cranky.
Quote: GWAEmaybe I am just stupid but I don't mind the paid parking. Maybe I am just used to it while working downtown and paying to go to work and when in AC they have paid parking. Hell I am staying at a hotel in Chicago this weekend and I have to pay for parking.
However, they better have it like AC where as long asyou play or are a certain tier it is free. If I am diamond or platinum and have to pay then I might turn cranky.
Sure... most people in the US in most cities pay for parking and have no problem paying for parking. It is the same thing that I see everyday when tourists come to vegas and pay 14 dollars for one drink at the bar and have no idea if they would just play a few dollars in the machine they could get it for free and give the bartender a few extra dollars instead. The Casinos don't lose and they make money faster than they can print it and now they have to charge the suckers for parking and beer and resort fees and what not. Heck I was at one CET property years ago just waiting for a poker tournament to finish and made a 300 dollar bet in the sports book and was told I couldn't get a drink ticket unless I bet 600 minimum. You keep letting these Casinos charge for whatever they want and you will be playing BJ and Dice at a 95% return soon enough.
To me, parking fees and resort fees, coupled to the cost of air fare to go to and from Las Vegas now tip the scales in favor of gambling locally and not coming to Las Vegas.
I suppose I'll still visit occasionally, but not as frequently as I used to.
I think it was inevitable once MGM started it.
Quote: beachbumbabsAuuuugggggghhh!
I hope their customers punish them for this.
Stupid bean counters.
I only see them making easy money off this just like Resort Fees. Everyone complains but it hasn't hurt business from looking at the numbers. If they continue to allow locals and premium members to park for free, the only people paying will be tourists driving in, who will begrudgingly pay it. Not much risk of a punishment to them from what I see, we always just accept it.
However, if they ever start charging at Rio, shame on them. I'd doubt it though, Rio competes for locals.
Lol. Insult to injury.
I suspect the powers that be think this will keep hotel guests from visiting other casinos, making them captive audiences.
Until then, I'll be at non-strip casinos, for the most part.
Quote: beachbumbabs
Auuuugggggghhh!
I hope their customers punish them for this.
Stupid bean counters.
The current issue of Casino Journal (p. 18) reports that 77% of Las Vegas visitors come to gamble. But, 90% come for other reasons in addition to gambling. So, if you're there for a convention or meeting, parking fees are a reimbursable expense. If you're there for a wedding or to see your favorite performer, the parking fee is just one small expense on top of the cost for your hotel room, meals, drinks, show tix, etc.
But, the same Casino Journal article noted that parking garages are the non-gaming amenity that generated the most income for casinos, increasing casino drop by 74%. (Yup. Surprised me, too.) Given this, I would assume casinos would embrace free parking.
I think any casino in Biloxi (where I most often play) would be signing its own death warrant by instituting a "pay for parking" program. I hope that's what happens to Vegas casinos with the same mind-set.
Toilet paper charge per roll
Sports on tv per game charge
Pillows and sheets charge
Opening a window charge
Buffet per plate charge
Weight overage fee
Will it hurt them? I don't think so. The Strip is a terrible value anyway. Tourists and ploppies flock to it because of the glamor and hype. If they can be conditioned to $14 beers, $20 sandwiches, $30/night resort fees (paying for, among other things, the presence of a pool and the availability of valet parking), 6:5 blackjack, slots with 85% return, $250 to see Celine Dion, etc. etc. etc.---then will they swallow another $10 a day to park? You betcha!
(By the way, if you visit a Strip casino this month, ask for a reduction in the resort fee because the pool is closed. Hilarity will ensue.)
Quote: Joeshlabotnik(By the way, if you visit a Strip casino this month, ask for a reduction in the resort fee because the pool is closed. Hilarity will ensue.)
I stayed at the MGM Grand last week. The pool was still open. It was funny to see the lifeguards basically bundled up in winter clothes while a few people swam below them.
Quote: ams288I stayed at the MGM Grand last week. The pool was still open. It was funny to see the lifeguards basically bundled up in winter clothes while a few people swam below them.
Yea, there are few that stay open year round. I remember talking to some Canadians on Christmas Day at the Flamingo years ago who were swimming. 55 must have seemed warm to them.
I was thinking the same... Diamond and above shouldn't have to worry about this. If you're going to comp the ~$30/night resort fee's, I'm sure the $5 parking could be taken care of too. All the more reason to then promote Diamond/etc.Quote: RSWhat about regular parking? Idgaf about valet. I want free parking. Do 7* & diamond get that? If not it's BS.
Quote: billryanI can't wait until the cheapskates figure out they can park for free at Rio and take a shuttle to the Strip.
At least until somebody actually staying at the Rio complains that he couldn't get on the shuttle because it was full, thanks to all of the non-guests parking there, after which the Rio starts charging for non-guest parking.
Quote: djatcI don't like the having to swipe cards to get free parking, since it could affect ADT....
There are enough abandoned cards on the floor. Maybe an AP opportunity to sell abandoned Platinum and Diamond cards. Or, just hang out in the parking garage and charge people $5 per swipe, they will be happy to save $5.
Quote: GWAEAre we going to complain that the cost of bread is no longer .10 or gas is not .49? Inflation is a part of every business and casinos have to figure out where to get extra revenue or there will be no vegas. I have no problems with the extra fees and if I do then I can visit bilioxi or tunica.
Get off of my lawn.
Quote: GWAEAre we going to complain that the cost of bread is no longer .10 or gas is not .49? Inflation is a part of every business and casinos have to figure out where to get extra revenue or there will be no vegas. I have no problems with the extra fees and if I do then I can visit bilioxi or tunica.
Have you given into the Dark Side of the Force? Perhaps assimilated by The Borg? You must be inside of the Casinos that have Muted Tones, isn't that what you said, huh? Huh? I can't hear you. Wait, wait a minute. There it is. Blended in, at a subsonic level, like some kind of mantra: "Lose, Lose, Lose!" Maybe in your case... "Pay For Parking, Don't Drink Too Much, Leave Your Wallet At The Door!
Quote: GWAEAre we going to complain that the cost of bread is no longer .10 or gas is not .49? Inflation is a part of every business and casinos have to figure out where to get extra revenue or there will be no vegas. I have no problems with the extra fees and if I do then I can visit bilioxi or tunica.
Bad analogy. Parking is changing from being a free amenity to something that you have to pay for. It's more like having to pay for drinks even when you're gambling, or having to pay a surcharge for silverware and plates at the buffet.
I tremble and weep at the poor casinos not achieving their revenue goals. With Vegas visitation at an all-time high, if the casinos aren't making beaucoup bucks, they're doing something seriously wrong. They don't need to keep adding fees and charges to everything--that could well turn out to be unprofitable in the long run as some people will be turned off by being nickel and dimed to death.
Quote: billryanGet off of my lawn.
Made me laugh out loud. Thanks!
Benny Binion is rolling in his grave.Quote: Joeshlabotnikthat could well turn out to be unprofitable in the long run as some people will be turned off by being nickel and dimed to death.
I remember wandering into a casino and just standing a few feet inside the door and off to the side so as to let my eyes adjust from bright sun to interior darkness and air conditioning. This shadow approached me and offered me a free cocktail. I'm on the perimeter, I've just been there not yet ten seconds and some one is offering me a free drink!
Where are the snows of yesteryear?
CET wants to slice the grape and sell grape slivers. Other places have bean counters too but at least the other joints draw the line somewhere.
I swear... one of these days I'm going to go to a game store and buy a rack and a whole lot of plain black chips. Then I'll enter a casino cuddling a Rack of Blacks and those Tray Lizards will no longer ignore me and those parking lot attendants will actually start to show a little respect. As long as I don't try to bet them, I should be okay.
Quote: beachbumbabsMade me laugh out loud. Thanks!
Can you womansplain the reference?
Quote: onenickelmiracleSomeone on another forum made a good post claiming the real target is taking valet wages and making them profits. Valets are outsourced to a new company and the current employees are to be fired. Basically, $70,000 jobs become $30,000 jobs with the difference in casino pockets. Tips are a lot lower when a customer already forks over so much to the casino.
I know that at MGM properties all employees were offered jobs at the same pay and same seniority levels with the new company. My understanding from a close friend is that their tips are down over 30% but he still considers it a good paying job. Although he loved it, he knew they were making too much money for the service provided. When young under-educated kids are making $75k for parking cars the gravy train can't last.
Quote: GWAEAre we going to complain that the cost of bread is no longer .10 or gas is not .49? Inflation is a part of every business and casinos have to figure out where to get extra revenue or there will be no vegas. I have no problems with the extra fees and if I do then I can visit bilioxi or tunica.
I would not chalk it up to inflation, I blame it more on the over-intellectualizing of American business. The casino business is straightforward. Get them in the door. Get them playing. Keep them playing. The old greats knew this. This is why the free parking and free drinks existed in the first place.
Today there is too much trying to reinvent the wheel. Track free drinks. Track this, track that. Someone looks at all those cars and sees all those dollars. A Benny Binion or Frank Rosenthal knew that money spent in the lot is money not spent on the floor. Today's managers do not think that way.
Of course, it is no longer even mostly about gaming. Shops, food, nightclubs are ruling now. Charging for parking just makes me less consider another trip.
Quote: GWAEAre we going to complain that the cost of bread is no longer .10 or gas is not .49? Inflation is a part of every business and casinos have to figure out where to get extra revenue or there will be no vegas. I have no problems with the extra fees and if I do then I can visit bilioxi or tunica.
I don't think anyone argues against inflation, but it doesn't apply when trying to justify their greed. Yes, a loaf of bread cost 10 cents at one point. You paid your dime and got your loaf of bread. Now, we as casino consumers are charged $1.... we should still get the same loaf of bread. Instead, casinos now are charging more money and scaling back payouts and benefits to the gambler, and justify it via "inflation."
Three major profit models for casinos nowQuote: AZDuffmanOf course, it is no longer even mostly about gaming. Shops, food, nightclubs are ruling now.
(1) Las Vegas: 50% gambling (90% slots, 10% tables), 50% other
(2) Reno & Most Indian casinos: 90% gambling (90% slots, 10% tables), 10% other
(3) Macau: 90% high-end baccarat, 10% other
Cosmopolitan has an ice rink & swimming pool open on the roof...right next to each other. Never seen this before. $20 for non-hotel guests.Quote: ams288I stayed at the MGM Grand last week. The pool was still open. It was funny to see the lifeguards basically bundled up in winter clothes while a few people swam below them.
MBAs don't care much about the grumbling; they know the diehards will grumble and pay the fee, whatever it is for.Quote: AZDuffmanOf course, it is no longer even mostly about gaming. Shops, food, nightclubs are ruling now. Charging for parking just makes me less consider another trip.
6:5 caused grumbling, resort fees caused grumbling, drunken invasions at club-closing time caused grumbling. Heck, some people even grumbled about stripper poles and bikinis in the Party Pits and the explicit Cleavage Tax rules.
Grumble away .... MBAs just don't care. Everything is short term bottom-line oriented.
Every few years, we need a merger, we need deregulation, we need laws changed, we need tax breaks, and if not thousands will die and lose jobs. Then they get it and more people suffer high costs than the value saved of the jobs. Nothing is given back.
http://www.reviewjournal.com/business/caesars-begins-charging-some-guests-self-parking-las-vegas-properties
Quote:Caesars Entertainment began charging customers for self-parking at its Linq Hotel last week and will begin charging at Caesars Palace on Monday and at Paris Las Vegas and Bally’s on April 6, a company spokesman said.
People with a Nevada driver’s license are exempt from paying by scanning the barcode on the back of their licenses at the entry gate. In addition, parking is free for all customers for the first hour for people making a quick stop.
High-level members of the company’s Total Rewards loyalty club — Platinum, Diamond and Seven Stars — also will be able to park free in valet or self-parking.
Unlike MGM Resorts properties where guests are able to pay a flat rate to park at any property, Caesars guests will have to pay extra if they move their cars to a different Caesars property.
The company plans to charge for parking at The Cromwell, Harrah’s Las Vegas and the Flamingo, but hasn’t set a timetable to start. No plan has been announced for self-parking at Planet Hollywood, which shares a parking garage with the Miracle Mile Shops. The off-Strip Rio property owned by Caesars won’t have paid parking.
