ahiromu
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May 30th, 2013 at 6:12:00 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

The Rio has 9-6 Jacks. However, I hear they only accumulate base reward credits at a fraction of the normal rate



Fwiw, in AC, I believe the accumulation at 9/6 is exactly half of other VP.
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AlanMendelson
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May 30th, 2013 at 6:43:41 AM permalink
Quote: djatc

The reason why I don't understand that is the reason why I am single lol. Sometimes the ends justify the means, more so when money's involved.

I don't understand the guy playing JoB neither. Playing more hands of -EV = -EV. This is similar to people playing 2 bases on BJ, unless they are counting. Getting to 7 Star might be one reason but I heard it's invite only and VP players don't give enough "juice" to get there anyway. If a player has that much knowledge and skill he would stay as far away from any -EV VP.



I think he did it because he could. He had the physical ability, the mental ability and the financial ability. Did he make mistakes playing two games at once? I dont know, I was busy playing my own single machine to watch his play. He certainly was 7Stars and I saw his cards in the machines. The comp points can be converted to free play or "value cards" such as gas cards or department store gift cards.

video poker is a great way to rack up tier points and comp points because you have a chance to make your money stretch and as I wrote about in my TR when you play table games you are at the mercy of the floorman. Look what happened to me -- he had me down for a $39 average bet and I had $250 or more on the table.

And there is no mystique in getting 7stars. If you have the play, and you pay your markers, and you don't pick fights with dealers, you'll be 7stars.

edited to add: All total rewards casinos use the SAME formula for tier scores: $10 of any video poker gets one tier point. $5 of any slot gets one tier point. Now, there might be different values assigned to comps but not for tier scores and tier scores get you 7stars, diamond, etc.
whatme
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May 30th, 2013 at 8:30:14 AM permalink
Quote: ahiromu

Fwiw, in AC, I believe the accumulation at 9/6 is exactly half of other VP.


I get 1 point per $10 in 9/6 job even the progresive @ czr ac
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May 30th, 2013 at 1:16:04 PM permalink
Quote: whatme

I get 1 point per $10 in 9/6 job even the progresive @ czr ac



It seems that any non-Vegas CET property is more competitive in retaining customers. You can get yourself into an almost break even machine in AC or other areas.
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djatc
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May 30th, 2013 at 1:34:25 PM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

I think he did it because he could. He had the physical ability, the mental ability and the financial ability. Did he make mistakes playing two games at once? I dont know, I was busy playing my own single machine to watch his play. He certainly was 7Stars and I saw his cards in the machines. The comp points can be converted to free play or "value cards" such as gas cards or department store gift cards.

video poker is a great way to rack up tier points and comp points because you have a chance to make your money stretch and as I wrote about in my TR when you play table games you are at the mercy of the floorman. Look what happened to me -- he had me down for a $39 average bet and I had $250 or more on the table.

And there is no mystique in getting 7stars. If you have the play, and you pay your markers, and you don't pick fights with dealers, you'll be 7stars.

edited to add: All total rewards casinos use the SAME formula for tier scores: $10 of any video poker gets one tier point. $5 of any slot gets one tier point. Now, there might be different values assigned to comps but not for tier scores and tier scores get you 7stars, diamond, etc.



I guess there is EV in the bonuses you get as a 7star if you can afford it. $1.5m coin sounds like a lot in theory but on a 99.54% machine theoretically only costs $6,900, and that's not including the tier bonuses. Going off of the bonus table on TR you can earn 6,125 points extra per 2,500 points (If I'm interpreting this right, it could be 500 + 1000 + 2500 instead of 2,500 altogether) in a day. That's $25,000 coin-in a day for about 180 days. Sounds like a lot but only an hour on a $5 machine playing 1000 hands/hr.

If you're getting decent freeplay and RFB offers it would even out. If you can pull this off in AC or other cities you can get this for much cheaper on a 99.96% APDW or DDB. It is interesting to see the +EV play of high VP play, as I'm stuck to quarters for a very long time for now.
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tringlomane
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May 30th, 2013 at 2:11:26 PM permalink
Quote: djatc

It seems that any non-Vegas CET property is more competitive in retaining customers. You can get yourself into an almost break even machine in AC or other areas.



Consider the average gambler on the Strip. I really can't say I blame CET here.
drussell0208
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June 2nd, 2013 at 8:04:20 AM permalink
Thanks so much for the responses! I'm going to stick with CET properties because I'm an hour away from Horseshoe Cleveland and at diamond status already. I'll keep this thread bookmarked so I am able to find a good (enough) machine at whichever property I'm at. Keep me updated if there's anywhere else I should go!
JIMMYFOCKER
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July 14th, 2013 at 7:43:38 AM permalink
Get to Tahoe
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July 15th, 2013 at 11:11:10 PM permalink
Quote: JIMMYFOCKER

Get to Tahoe



Does Harrah's/Harvey's Lake Tahoe have anything better than full pay JOB? I just consulted VPFree2.com in case something had changed, as I haven't been over the hill (from CC) since the Fall... To my knowledge, that's the best you're gonna get outside of a high progressive... What do you like there?
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JIMMYFOCKER
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July 16th, 2013 at 7:53:48 AM permalink
Quote: camapl

Does Harrah's/Harvey's Lake Tahoe have anything better than full pay JOB? I just consulted VPFree2.com in case something had changed, as I haven't been over the hill (from CC) since the Fall... To my knowledge, that's the best you're gonna get outside of a high progressive... What do you like there?

Play the triple-play $1 JOB there, one of the easiest ways for anyone who isn't yet a Diamond member to reach such status, as two back-to-back 70 minute sessions on separate days will earn one Diamond status.

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