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November 4th, 2011 at 6:42:32 PM
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I have always assumed that Full Pay Jacks or Better is least volatile... But I got to thinking about deuces wild... It would seem that having four wild cards in the deck would bring less volatility by making it easier to complete hands, even if their values are reduced.
Before one of my favorite casinos had to go to class II gaming and get rid of their video poker and reel slots, I would show up, cash in my club points for 10 or 20 bucks, put it in either the 8-5 Progressive jacks or better nickel machines with number one jackpot of at least $400 and play until I hit the royal, or if they were all taken which was typical during day time hours, I would put it into the full pay jacks or better nickel flat top. They also gave extra points for every four of a kind, straight flush, or royal flush, and I would get so many four of a kinds that when I came back, I would have another 10 or 20 dollars of their money to play on. But maybe one in five trips I would have to dip into my wallet, and then by the time I went home, I always was running a surplus. In two weeks time I had hit five royal flushes, four of them progressive between the 400 and 700 dollar mark, and one on the flat top for 200. But my point here is, I never needed a bankroll greater than about $40 to play nickels. But all of this was after about four years of not being able to hit a royal.
There is an online casino what had offered Two Ways Royal, I had hit two low royals in half an hour, and promptly cashed out my $400 in winnings which did arrive quickly.
But it would seem my good spells have caught up with me. My bankrolls dry up, even after hitting many big pays with four deuces, or quads on bonus poker deluxe...
So... I ask, what video poker variation has the least volatility in actuality? And I am hoping for answers that are commonly found in most casinos, and not prototypes that casinos refuse because they are too liberal a paytable :-)
Thanks for your advice,
Before one of my favorite casinos had to go to class II gaming and get rid of their video poker and reel slots, I would show up, cash in my club points for 10 or 20 bucks, put it in either the 8-5 Progressive jacks or better nickel machines with number one jackpot of at least $400 and play until I hit the royal, or if they were all taken which was typical during day time hours, I would put it into the full pay jacks or better nickel flat top. They also gave extra points for every four of a kind, straight flush, or royal flush, and I would get so many four of a kinds that when I came back, I would have another 10 or 20 dollars of their money to play on. But maybe one in five trips I would have to dip into my wallet, and then by the time I went home, I always was running a surplus. In two weeks time I had hit five royal flushes, four of them progressive between the 400 and 700 dollar mark, and one on the flat top for 200. But my point here is, I never needed a bankroll greater than about $40 to play nickels. But all of this was after about four years of not being able to hit a royal.
There is an online casino what had offered Two Ways Royal, I had hit two low royals in half an hour, and promptly cashed out my $400 in winnings which did arrive quickly.
But it would seem my good spells have caught up with me. My bankrolls dry up, even after hitting many big pays with four deuces, or quads on bonus poker deluxe...
So... I ask, what video poker variation has the least volatility in actuality? And I am hoping for answers that are commonly found in most casinos, and not prototypes that casinos refuse because they are too liberal a paytable :-)
Thanks for your advice,
November 4th, 2011 at 6:57:31 PM
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Full pay Pick 'Em (available on BoDog, and in some brick-and-mortar casinos that I could count on one hand) is the least volatile game, at about 11 volatility. Jacks or better is 19.
"Dice, verily, are armed with goads and driving-hooks, deceiving and tormenting, causing grievous woe." -Rig Veda 10.34.4
November 4th, 2011 at 7:40:17 PM
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It just seems like the odds of hitting a Royal are worse... But the point is moot since the main thing is less volatility in the lower paying hands. Is there anything else even close to pickem in terms of volatility?
November 5th, 2011 at 6:28:42 AM
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Isn't a highly volatile game one that a player would desire?
November 6th, 2011 at 12:23:51 PM
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Well... There is something to be said for matching your bankroll to a machine. If you have a small bankroll on a high volatility game, you will either gain very very fast, or go broke very very fast. The less volatility the longer I figure a person can play on a small bankroll. Example: If I have $20, i'd do better to play Not So Ugly Ducks as opposed to Loose Deuces.
But if you have a good number of credits, say 1000 to 2000 credits, then yes, a more volatile game would perhaps be desirable as one would have a great deal of excitement when the big paying hands come up :-)
But while I am posting... I think I have found my new favorite game: Double Jackpot Poker... The bonuses on quads kick in for face cards, which seems better because when you get a pair of jacks or better you hold them anyways, as opposed to having bonuses on low cards. And it pays 8 for 1 on full house and 2 for 1 on two pair unlike double bonus poker. Two days ago was the first day I played it in my life, sat down at the computer playing on Bodog, 400 credits, nickels, rolled between $15 and $40 for about 24 hours of total play. Then, I dunno what happened, it was a slippery slope into oblivion. Well... I might have recovered if my doubling losses weren't around 100 credits :P Thats a lot of extra playing that coulda helped turn the session around. But I will be more prepared next time. I plan to have at least 1000 credits. Anything less than that I feel it's a bit risky as to whether you can absorb any kind of down turn.
But if you have a good number of credits, say 1000 to 2000 credits, then yes, a more volatile game would perhaps be desirable as one would have a great deal of excitement when the big paying hands come up :-)
But while I am posting... I think I have found my new favorite game: Double Jackpot Poker... The bonuses on quads kick in for face cards, which seems better because when you get a pair of jacks or better you hold them anyways, as opposed to having bonuses on low cards. And it pays 8 for 1 on full house and 2 for 1 on two pair unlike double bonus poker. Two days ago was the first day I played it in my life, sat down at the computer playing on Bodog, 400 credits, nickels, rolled between $15 and $40 for about 24 hours of total play. Then, I dunno what happened, it was a slippery slope into oblivion. Well... I might have recovered if my doubling losses weren't around 100 credits :P Thats a lot of extra playing that coulda helped turn the session around. But I will be more prepared next time. I plan to have at least 1000 credits. Anything less than that I feel it's a bit risky as to whether you can absorb any kind of down turn.
November 24th, 2011 at 11:09:43 PM
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Penny 100-play 9/6 JoB would be about as "least" volatile as it gets...
The best I get is 5c 10-play 9/6 JoB...
The best I get is 5c 10-play 9/6 JoB...
Gambling calls to me...like this ~> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nap37mNSmQ
November 25th, 2011 at 4:22:32 AM
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One of the various trite phrases oft repeated refers to the fact that the casino has an unlimited bankroll and can play continuously. A player can play at a slot machine hoping his ship will come in, but just as his ship is approaching the horizon, ... he can be "Game Over -- Zero Credits". Yet that casino just keeps going absorbing all its unlucky periods.Quote: Goldbaron357I plan to have at least 1000 credits. Anything less than that I feel it's a bit risky as to whether you can absorb any kind of down turn.
So you feel that Double Jackpot Poker has an optimum volatility for you? Well, good luck with it.
November 25th, 2011 at 6:55:21 AM
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1-cent 1-line 9/6 JOB.
"Dice, verily, are armed with goads and driving-hooks, deceiving and tormenting, causing grievous woe." -Rig Veda 10.34.4
November 25th, 2011 at 8:24:39 AM
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
November 25th, 2011 at 11:50:29 AM
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Quote: Goldbaron357It just seems like the odds of hitting a Royal are worse... But the point is moot since the main thing is less volatility in the lower paying hands. Is there anything else even close to pickem in terms of volatility?
I think it's good advice to tell you to forget "seems" and stick with "is." Trust the evidence. Wish the prior poster had given the number for FPDW. It's also a money eater when you don't hit RF or 4 deuces (95% if my memory is correct). If you are running thru
$1000/hr that's $50 drop/hr.