cmlotito
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July 30th, 2024 at 3:14:28 PM permalink
A friend of mine sent me this picture today. He just sat down and put $1,000 into the machine when he noticed what the previous player had drawn. He was concerned the machine may be gaffed. How unusual is this?

DogHand
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July 30th, 2024 at 7:07:51 PM permalink
My guess: maybe the previous player was playing only three hands?

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July 31st, 2024 at 12:38:07 AM permalink
Quote: DogHand

My guess: maybe the previous player was playing only three hands?

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Looks like previous person vultured 10 hands at 5 coins each. To the best of my knowledge, it looks like 8 of the 10 hands all drew the same two cards. While it may be mathematically possible, I think it would be easier to win the Powerball vs this happening.
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July 31st, 2024 at 4:05:45 AM permalink
Quote: cmlotito

Quote: DogHand

My guess: maybe the previous player was playing only three hands?

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Looks like previous person vultured 10 hands at 5 coins each. To the best of my knowledge, it looks like 8 of the 10 hands all drew the same two cards. While it may be mathematically possible, I think it would be easier to win the Powerball vs this happening.
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i dont think the previous person was vulturing.
there's no spent multipliers next to hands.

odds of this happening:
1/47 x 1/46 x ?

i'll let the mathlettes figure out what ? is because i cant
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July 31st, 2024 at 6:16:17 AM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

Quote: cmlotito

Quote: DogHand

My guess: maybe the previous player was playing only three hands?

Dog Hand
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Looks like previous person vultured 10 hands at 5 coins each. To the best of my knowledge, it looks like 8 of the 10 hands all drew the same two cards. While it may be mathematically possible, I think it would be easier to win the Powerball vs this happening.
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i dont think the previous person was vulturing.
there's no spent multipliers next to hands.

odds of this happening:
1/47 x 1/46 x ?

i'll let the mathlettes figure out what ? is because i cant
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Let us focus on the probability that you draw two cards to a hand and draw the same two cards to the next seven hands. 47 choose 2 = 1081, and 1081^7 = 1.7249633e+21, so one in 1,724,963,300,000,000,000,000.

It is somewhat more likely that eight hands out of ten have drawn the same two cards -- you get two misses so you have more entropy.

But, these cards appear in the same order as the third hand, so the actual result is 128 times less likely than what I calculated above.

This did not happen by chance. Something in the machine program created the unusual display. You don't have to be vulturing to play three hands.
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August 3rd, 2024 at 10:09:55 PM permalink
It's also not the default hand which I believe is 34569. Although this could also be a default hand in lieu of not showing cards at all.
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