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March 8th, 2020 at 7:38:05 AM permalink
Hey everyone. I wanted to share our latest video poker game with the hopes of getting your feedback and thoughts. The game is called Trade N' Place Poker and it is a stud based video poker game that allows the player to create 3 horizontal hands all from a single deck of cards. If a trade card is dealt in the opening deal, the player will choose any two cards to change spots in the matrix. Once the trade is complete, the player will then place two cards, one at a time, onto the matrix. The place cards will cover up the existing card in the hand. The game is complete upon the completion of the second place card.



Trade N' Place Link = https://www.realizegamingllc.com/dev/tradeNPlace/

A few things to keep in mind. We haven't finished the math yet and the wager that will be needed to play the game still needs to be figured out.

As always, we welcome any of your comments.
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March 8th, 2020 at 8:19:49 AM permalink
The information button shows the information for String Multiplier Poker.

Also, it does not specify anywhere what the probability is of being dealt a Trade Card. Presumably, it would be settable on the machine (the way the Free Ride card can be set in Multistrike), but it would be nice to know when trying to do the math.

Questions:
1. What's meant by a bet of "5 + 20" (as opposed to just saying "25")? I can change the bet to, for example, "1 + 4", with a corresponding reduction in the pay table, but would a bet of, say, "1 + 3", or just "1", be possible, and if so, what happens?
2. When the player does not do a trade, are there always 3 place cards instead of two? You left that out of the description.
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March 8th, 2020 at 10:24:27 AM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

The information button shows the information for String Multiplier Poker.

Also, it does not specify anywhere what the probability is of being dealt a Trade Card. Presumably, it would be settable on the machine (the way the Free Ride card can be set in Multistrike), but it would be nice to know when trying to do the math.

Questions:
1. What's meant by a bet of "5 + 20" (as opposed to just saying "25")? I can change the bet to, for example, "1 + 4", with a corresponding reduction in the pay table, but would a bet of, say, "1 + 3", or just "1", be possible, and if so, what happens?
2. When the player does not do a trade, are there always 3 place cards instead of two? You left that out of the description.



You are correct on the information button. We will change that toward the end of the build.

We will eventually need to adjust the probability of the trade card once we get a firmer grasp on everything. We want it to happen enough to show the function of the trade card, but that remains to be seen.

1. Don't pay any attention to the wager amount yet. I'm sure that will be adjusted. My first thought is that it will cost 10 credits for each hand which would put the wager at a total of 30. It may have to do higher depending on the math.

2. Correct. If there is no trade card dealt, the player gets three place cards.
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March 8th, 2020 at 1:00:24 PM permalink
As a player, I'm really enjoying the hemming and hawing over what to do. It's a fun game.

On the other hand, if I owned a casino, I don't think I'd enjoy seeing my players spending so much time hemming and hawing over decisions and therefore slowing down the machine's money intake.

The tribulations of game design eh?
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March 8th, 2020 at 1:36:54 PM permalink
My main problem with the game is, if you don't get the Trade & Place card, then there's nothing for you to do; it's a glorified slot machine.

Maybe if trade & place was always available, but (a) instead of not being to do anything without a T&P card, you are shown three face down cards and select one to be your one allowed Place (similar to how you choose one of two face down cards in Pick A Pair), and (b) modify the pay tables accordingly (for example, require at least two pair to win), it would be more inviting to players.
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March 8th, 2020 at 3:50:32 PM permalink
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Hey everyone. I wanted to share our latest video poker game with the hopes of getting your feedback and thoughts. The game is called Trade N' Place Poker and it is a stud based video poker game that allows the player to create 3 horizontal hands all from a single deck of cards. If a trade card is dealt in the opening deal, the player will choose any two cards to change spots in the matrix. Once the trade is complete, the player will then place two cards, one at a time, onto the matrix. The place cards will cover up the existing card in the hand. The game is complete upon the completion of the second place card.



Trade N' Place Link = https://www.realizegamingllc.com/dev/tradeNPlace/

A few things to keep in mind. We haven't finished the math yet and the wager that will be needed to play the game still needs to be figured out.

As always, we welcome any of your comments.



Good game. Makes me really think, which I like but I think might be too much for many VP players. Poker players might gravitate to it because of the comparing of cards used and "out" cards.


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March 8th, 2020 at 3:57:40 PM permalink
All due credit for creativity and for creating a challenging thinking game.

However, as others pointed out, I'm concerned the hands per hour would be too low for the game to pull its weight. I am also concerned that even if you set the return at 100%, player errors will be very high and the bottom 99% of players will get killed.

The math of this will be a huge challenge. Please don't be stingy with your math guy, this one will require a monumental effort.
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March 8th, 2020 at 4:41:30 PM permalink
Quote: Gialmere

As a player, I'm really enjoying the hemming and hawing over what to do. It's a fun game.

On the other hand, if I owned a casino, I don't think I'd enjoy seeing my players spending so much time hemming and hawing over decisions and therefore slowing down the machine's money intake.

The tribulations of game design eh?



Thanks Gialmere.

That was my main concern...it does take some time to play. It does go quicker the more you get used to playing the game, but I'm hoping the higher initial wager can balance that out a bit.
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March 8th, 2020 at 4:44:36 PM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

My main problem with the game is, if you don't get the Trade & Place card, then there's nothing for you to do; it's a glorified slot machine.

Maybe if trade & place was always available, but (a) instead of not being to do anything without a T&P card, you are shown three face down cards and select one to be your one allowed Place (similar to how you choose one of two face down cards in Pick A Pair), and (b) modify the pay tables accordingly (for example, require at least two pair to win), it would be more inviting to players.



The game is not correct in how it plays just yet. In a couple of days it should go like this:

1. If a trade card appears, the player gets one trade, and then places two cards.
2. If no trade card appears, the player just gets to place three cards.

We should have that corrected soon.

I do like your idea ThatDonGuy. It would have some similarities to Pick a Pair which I really like.
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March 8th, 2020 at 4:46:30 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

All due credit for creativity and for creating a challenging thinking game.

However, as others pointed out, I'm concerned the hands per hour would be too low for the game to pull its weight. I am also concerned that even if you set the return at 100%, player errors will be very high and the bottom 99% of players will get killed.

The math of this will be a huge challenge. Please don't be stingy with your math guy, this one will require a monumental effort.



Agree with everything you mentioned above. We will continue to work on it.

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