If I walk up and find a game that has the Ultimate X set up and ready to go on a the next hand, do I bet max (and pay extra) to try and trigger the Ultimate X multiplier on that hand for the next hand? Or do I just play that hand and not pay the extra to try and trigger it again (if that makes sense)?

Thanks in advance.

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ETA: It's possible that the answer is different for Ultimate X Bonus Streak.. but that's super complicated.

Ask yourself why it's an advantage and how it got that way. Understanding the concept will go much further than getting a direct answer.Quote:HotBlondeQuestion:

If I walk up and find a game that has the Ultimate X set up and ready to go on a the next hand, do I bet max (and pay extra) to try and trigger the Ultimate X multiplier on that hand for the next hand? Or do I just play that hand and not pay the extra to try and trigger it again (if that makes sense)?

Thanks in advance.

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If you can solve that puzzle without getting too much help it will go a long way to being able to figure out other things you might find and perhaps pass up while waiting for answers.

Boo!!Quote:rsactuaryIf you're trying to vulture, then you only play the 5 credits per hand, "use" the multipliers.. and leave none for the next person who sits down to play.

ETA: It's possible that the answer is different for Ultimate X Bonus Streak.. but that's super complicated.

You should play max. The money is going to neg so might as well go for it.Quote:HotBlondeQuestion:

If I walk up and find a game that has the Ultimate X set up and ready to go on a the next hand, do I bet max (and pay extra) to try and trigger the Ultimate X multiplier on that hand for the next hand? Or do I just play that hand and not pay the extra to try and trigger it again (if that makes sense)?

Thanks in advance.

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That's not completely true because you do get an EV bump from the feature, but it's close.

Max $ EV is bet 5 coins per line.

Max % EV is bet 1 coin per line that maximizes the IRR (internal rate of return). Suppose you see a 10-Play with a 2X on the 2nd line and a 3X on the 9th line. The play to max IRR is to play two lines at 1 coin each: (2X + 1X)/2 * payback vs (2X + 3X + 1X)/9 * payback.

Hope this helps and good luck.

This is true, and I don't disagree with this one bit. However, I always bet five. And I've hit two royals while vulturing: one at $0.10 and one at $1.00. Unfortunately, neither of them were multiplied...:(Quote:EVBanditThere are two ways to play UX with when vulturing or scavenging X’s: max ($ EV or % EV)

Max $ EV is bet 5 coins per line.

Max % EV is bet 1 coin per line that maximizes the IRR (internal rate of return). Suppose you see a 10-Play with a 2X on the 2nd line and a 3X on the 9th line. The play to max IRR is to play two lines at 1 coin each: (2X + 1X)/2 * payback vs (2X + 3X + 1X)/9 * payback.

Hope this helps and good luck.

Quote:teddysThis is true, and I don't disagree with this one bit. However, I always bet five. And I've hit two royals while vulturing: one at $0.10 and one at $1.00. Unfortunately, neither of them were multiplied...:(

I got one.

Quote:EVBanditThere are two ways to play UX with when vulturing or scavenging X’s: max ($ EV or % EV)

Max $ EV is bet 5 coins per line.

Max % EV is bet 1 coin per line that maximizes the IRR (internal rate of return). Suppose you see a 10-Play with a 2X on the 2nd line and a 3X on the 9th line. The play to max IRR is to play two lines at 1 coin each: (2X + 1X)/2 * payback vs (2X + 3X + 1X)/9 * payback.

Hope this helps and good luck.

Wanted to correct a typo ... happens a lot when you type on a small smartphone.

For the Max % play, you want to max IRR or Max (Exp EV / Initial capital)

first choice is (2X + 1X)/2 * payback

I made a mistake in the second choice: (2X + 3X + 7X)/9 * payback it's 7X because 7 lines have no X's and you are playing 9 lines.

Since X is a positive integer, then it's easy to see why the first choice is best for Max % EV.

Sorry about that and good luck