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March 22nd, 2019 at 8:06:32 PM permalink
I just saw the Wizard's page on 3-Way Action video poker.

But I recently learned about the game through an article from 2001.

It's also on the Arcade History site, though they say it's only 9 years old. (For grammar enthusiasts, the hyphen on the glass artwork is oddly between Way and Action instead of between 3 and Way.)

Did the game fail to catch on, and they're trotting it out again 18 years later?? Seems like funóI'd like to try it!

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October 26th, 2019 at 9:24:50 PM permalink
In video poker, I discard one card to get aces full over deuces.

In a scenario where I can draw two more cards, what is the chance I draw an ace and a deuce?

Is it (1/46)*(2/45) = .021*.044 = .0009 or roughly 1 in 10,000?

This came up in playing 3 Way-Action video poker, which is a fun variant of standard video poker. It might still be at the Gold Coast.
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October 26th, 2019 at 9:30:38 PM permalink
The Wizardís page about the game shows the WMS Gaming version of the game, but apparently the IGT version is still out in the wild. Maybe the rights to the game were sold?
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October 27th, 2019 at 6:45:18 AM permalink
Lots of these machines at the El Cortez
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October 27th, 2019 at 4:13:13 PM permalink
Quote: rsactuary

Lots of these machines at the El Cortez



I didn't see them while I was thereóbut then, I wasn't looking for them.

So could someone confirm my math to pull an ace and deuce: (1/46)*(2/45) = .021*.044 = .0009 or roughly 1 in 10,000?

The jackpot is getting four aces and three 2s, 3s, or 4s.
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October 27th, 2019 at 9:32:09 PM permalink
Quote: smoothgrh

I didn't see them while I was thereóbut then, I wasn't looking for them.

So could someone confirm my math to pull an ace and deuce: (1/46)*(2/45) = .021*.044 = .0009 or roughly 1 in 10,000?

The jackpot is getting four aces and three 2s, 3s, or 4s.



If you drew an Ace and a Deuce to make a full house AAA-22, then there were two aces and three deuces left in the deck, I would say the odds of drawing an Ace and a Deuce to make the full house were:

2*(2/47)*(3/46) =0.00555 or about 1/180.
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October 28th, 2019 at 7:48:45 AM permalink
I think that game basically failed to catch on. Nevertheless, I still see them once in a while. I think the Gold Coast has several. That game was a tough one to analyze.
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October 28th, 2019 at 4:25:33 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

If you drew an Ace and a Deuce to make a full house AAA-22, then there were two aces and three deuces left in the deck, I would say the odds of drawing an Ace and a Deuce to make the full house were:

2*(2/47)*(3/46) =0.00555 or about 1/180.



Hm. With AAA-22, there's only one ace and 2 deuces left, and one other card was discarded so only 46 cards left in the deck.

So that would make it 2*(1/46)*(2/45) = .0019?

Apologies for my limited mathematical ken, but why do you multiply that by 2?
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December 5th, 2019 at 9:53:59 PM permalink
Quote: rsactuary

Lots of these machines at the El Cortez


There used to be. Unfortunately they got rid of a bunch and are down to just 3.
(I had my best hit ever on one of those El Cortez machines when I got 4 aces and 3 fours: 120,000 nickels on a $4.50 bet.)

Be aware that the paytable there, while good, is not the paytable that the strategy on the Wizardís page was generated for (in fact the paytable isnít even listed on the page), and so optimal play requires strategy differences on many common hands.


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Hm. With AAA-22, there's only one ace and 2 deuces left, and one other card was discarded so only 46 cards left in the deck.

So that would make it 2*(1/46)*(2/45) = .0019?

Apologies for my limited mathematical ken, but why do you multiply that by 2?


Are youíre asking why there is a 2 at the start of the last equation? It is because the cards could come in either order.
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December 5th, 2019 at 10:04:36 PM permalink
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I think that game basically failed to catch on.

from my observation, I noticed a lot of Asian people like to play those machines. I think the Palms used to have quite a few of them as well. I don't know if they still do or not.

I remember Double Down stud used to be really popular back in the day.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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